Honestly, if killing all those kids @ Sandy Hook

[Va Lefty]

before Christmas didn't change the "equation" anybody who thinks this will is not living in the USA as it exists today. Depressing beyond belief.

[arthritisR_US]

1. Damn it, I wish you were wrong.

[Va Lefty]

3. So do I

[Skittles]

2. GUN HUMPERS HAVE WON

this is all TO BE EXPECTED now

[ThoughtCriminal]

8. And the gungeon dwellers are forced to work overtime here again

No need call them out individually, they will be along shortly to identify themselves

[Skittles]

10. fucking COWARDS

they can FUCK THEMSELVES

[ThoughtCriminal]

11. Maybe we should move RKBA to Mental Health

They could use some advice.

[billh58]

13. They are very busy

defending the sacred Second Amendment, and correcting everyone's gun nomenclature mistakes, while pointing out that most gun deaths in the USA are suicides.

There, don't you feel better now?

[Skittles]

14. SORRY, NOTHING CAN BE DONE

dead children, dead students, dead workers, dead concert-goers - it's all trumped by gun humper paranoia

[Lifelong Protester]

26. You are so right!

[Skittles]

21. FUCKING COWARDS

[Luciferous]

4. Yep

[WhiskeyGrinder]

5. Agreed. Caleb Keeter's declaration that he understands the push for gun control now

goes to show how little empathy there is.

ETA: I've been informed that he has acknowledged that very point and that he should have gotten to this point sooner.

[spanone]

6. K&R...

[moondust]

7. Yup.

Given that this crap happens with some frequency in addition to the regular daily body count, and the U.S. system seemingly impotent to do what is necessary to stop it, if I didn't live here I would consider it too dangerous to risk coming here even to visit.

[Kablooie]

9. The one thing this incident has that might make a little difference is...

that it was a country western concert so a large proportion of the audience were probably gun supporting NRA members.

If the NRA boosters begin to feel that their own lives are in danger the national mood might begin to shift.

[Le Gaucher]

12. Sorry ..even if Sean Hannity's and Bil Orielly's kids were killed in the carnage

I doubt it would change anything ( Other than Billo actually paying the price for his freedom)

The moment they as much spoke a word against NRA ..they would be cut off from the conservative teat and be turned into pariahs.

[nadine_mn]

22. I bet many of the concert goers listened to infowars and Alex Jones re;Sandy Hook

being a false flag. And now the same is being said about Vegas - except now how does that go over to the audience who believed that bullshit when it has actually happened to them

Suddenly it doesn't seem like a left wing conspiracy when its cowboy boots and hats littered on the ground instead of little kid shoes.

[haveahart]

15. My thinking exactly. May the NRA and GOP and gun-loving Dems rot in hell!

[hibbing]

16. Agree

The next number will 100.

Peace

[IronLionZion]

17. Even country music fans?

I had lots of hope for change once the somewhat influential American Medical Associate got on board for shootings as a public health issue, and our former Surgeon General.

But one would think at least some on the conservative side might sympathize with country music fans?

sigh, I also thought when a pretty blonde white woman got shot by a dark skinned cop there might be some changes with police killings but I was wrong.

Yet, I still continue to hope for the best.

[Still In Wisconsin]

18. The equation will not change because it is now and has always been about $$$$$$

As in, money pouring from the NRA into the coffers of complicit politicians who care more about their re-election than they do about American lives. Sure, they scream and yell and rant about the second amendment but it's always been about profits for the gun industry in the end... all the second amendment crap is how they keep their base in line and how they justify support for a product that kills when used as intended.

There was a time when the NRA was mostly about gun safety, shooting sports, and hunters' rights, but that time passed a loooooong time ago. Hell my own liberal dad, a USMC vet and retired cop, used to be a member, but he quit decades ago now, when it became obvious to him that the NRA was nothing more than the lobbying arm of the gun industry. For most of his career as a cop he carried a 6-round .38 revolver. Before that, in Korea, he carried an M1 Garand with an 8 round clip. When he hears them bleating about how it's your RIGHT to have as many 45-round mags as you want for your AR-15 he... well what he says is unmentionable.

Fuck the NRA and everyone who still supports them or profits from them. They are ghouls who should adopt the slogan "No lives matter" because that's what they believe.

[mountain grammy]

20. I agree, depressing beyond belief.

[certainot]

23. on rw/NRA/trump talk radio "the best defense vs a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."

yeah the radio is full of it. maybe calling from in the nra basement as my mother heard this morning

that's why we can't do anything after newtown or this - a few hundred jerks on 1500 radio stations taking a break from attacking kaepernick and lying us into another war to make excuses for machine guns

and 100s of those stations, maybe half, depend on 100s of publicly funded school and pro sports broadcasts to bring in the advertising to pay the rent.

[Blue_true]

24. Nevada.

Nevada should have been a big test of the "good guy with a gun theory". Nevada has liberal carry rules for guns, a person can even own a machine gun there. A country music festival with 22,000 fans, sounds like there should have been a few guns around. But, it is pretty tough to be brave when 20 bullets per few seconds are coming in and you don't know where the hell they are coming from, plus, people are starting to trample you. May be we should figure out why a regular person needs a gun that shoots twenty bullets before a person can blink three times and how did a guy get 17 guns up to a hotel room without anyone calling the cops.

[misanthrope]

25. You're exactly right. Sandy Hook was the litmus test

This violent and selfish culture isn't going to allow change.

[NJCher]

27. I was thinking the same thing that you wrote today

as I worked in my garden.

The reaction to this latest horrific shooting is that people go out and buy more guns. Indeed, that is happening right as I type: gun sales are soaring. I heard this on the news tonight.

I see nothing to encourage any hope, but since we're headed for extinction anyway, I guess it's a moot point.


Cher

[relayerbob]

28. Definition of "too unstable"

Anyone who is so paranoid as to think they need firearms (esp, more than one) to protect themselves from the bogeymen in their heads, is, in fact, already too delusional to own said firearms.