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Delinda Jensen, 60, of Wilkes-Barre, said she's received death threats and had to shut down her business after her post Monday night started going viral, sparking intense backlash both online and off.
Jensen wrote: "Yes I am jaded. Fifty nine meat eaters dead. How many animals will live because of this?" In a second comment, she used an expletive to say she didn't care about "carnists."
"Was it poorly written? Absolutely. Do I regret it? Yes. I am so sorry I wrote that," she said Thursday. "Meat eaters or not, no one deserves to die like that. I wasn't celebrating the death of those people."
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Jensen has since deactivated her Facebook account, hidden her food truck and canceled her bookings, and installed a security camera at her home. Her son said people have driven by their home, shouting threats and obscenities, and they have called police several times out of fear for their safety.
http://www.ktnv.com/news/las-vegas-shooting/vegan-biz-owner-sorry-for-post-about-las-vegas-meat-eaters_83543302
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)Not condoning threats to her but what an idiotic comment.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)She apparently thinks it is immoral to kill animals for food. Other people think it would be immoral to kill humans for food. But how do we know cannibalism is immoral but eating nonhuman animals is ok? Why are we so certain its ok to eat non humans but not ok to eat humans? We look back on slave owners and think they were immoral. They thought slavery was ethical. There is a good chance that 200 years from now people will look back on meat eaters and see them as even worse than slave owners. At least slave owners didnt cut the slaves into pieces and eat them. Why is it ok to eat a dog or a sheep but not ok to eat a person?
Or Maybe we should reconsider the ban on cannibalism. Maybe those who eat meat are indeed ethical.
Weekend Warrior
(1,301 posts)In a manner that makes it more efficient and holds to societal norms. There are many reasons to outlaw canibalism outside of morals. I find this to be one of the more faulty arguments people make. The only way it would hold validity is to ignore all that is around while focusing on the absurd.
Laurian
(2,593 posts)There are so many examples of these kinds of postings having bad consequences, but people keep doing it. Even if I had such thoughts (I don't!), I cannot imagine revealing them in such a public way.
Facebook and Twitter are certainly revealing some scary ugliness in our midst. Maybe we need to know what people actually think, but it is distressing.
unblock
(52,164 posts)so she posted something stupid on the internet. respond on the internet that the post was stupid.
no need for death threats and drive-bys and hounding and harassing.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)When some Nazi's were caught online posting shit, some got hounded and fired from their jobs.
She is just as much as an ideological idiot as the Nazi's. Like the Nazi's, she believes "Anyone who doesn't agree with her belief system doesn't deserve sympathy and the world is better off with them dead" .
Like the Nazi's, she deserves to be outed and have to live with the consequences of her actions.
unblock
(52,164 posts)Had she, say, advocated killing "carnists", that's another story.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)She viewed their deaths as a positive and "I don't give a fuck about carnists anymore".
Sounds like a Nazi type post to me.
unblock
(52,164 posts)There is zero excuse for death threats, etc
Tavarious Jackson
(1,595 posts)It's ugly but I do hope that some day in the future meat eating will be seen barbaric and archaic.
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)whathehell
(29,050 posts)at least with anything like "sanity".
LuvLoogie
(6,973 posts)B2G
(9,766 posts)Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)Animals are not vegan, so possibly fewer animals will live because of this.
CozyMystery
(652 posts)Caliman73
(11,726 posts)It is something that people rarely acknowledge. We are possibly, the smartest and most capable animal on the planet at this time, but we are animals. We are omnivores. Now, we can certainly talk about industrial farming practices, waste, inhumane treatment of livestock, and many other bad practices that we engage in, but to make a blanket statement that people who eat meat are immoral is not something that will get you heard.
Skittles
(153,138 posts)strange how people assume what others simply going to a concert must vote for, eat, etc. Sick to want them killed for it.
unblock
(52,164 posts)i thought all we knew about them was that they were at a country music show...?
whathehell
(29,050 posts)and if any one saw the clips of these people, who they were, they''d
see that they were a surprisingly diverse group -- Not all white
and decidedly NOT just a "group of hillbillies listening to
hillbilly music" as one DUer derisively painted them.
Skittles
(153,138 posts)Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)This ended up being a Milo Yiannopoulos moment for her...I have no idea what she was thinking or why she felt these were appropriate remarks to make on social media (or maybe she simply felt there would be no backlash), but like all of us, she has a right to free speech. The public is going to respond. She might have felt that she was being witty and topical and outrageous...I don't know. It was the wrong thing to say at the wrong time, and while "death threats" are always an extreme reaction to words, that's how society rolls. There are certain things that you simply do not say unless you are fully prepared to deal with the response.
We are an angry, agitated, divided, often frightened nation that is unsure of the future. We keep hoping that "Republican leadership" will, at some point, "do the right thing." And we hope for that without a shred of evidence that they will. We have no reason for that hope, it is misplaced. We have career politicians who care only about their own agendas, the checks they receive from certain "special interest" groups.
She now realizes that this wasn't the best move on her part. She's closed the barn door after all of the livestock escaped. The next time she feels the need to express similar thoughts, she might remember this and reconsider. I believe in free speech, and I also believe our words have consequences.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)DFW
(54,328 posts)I doubt even they could ascertain so quickly the eating habits of every single victim of the Las Vegas shooting.
bluepen
(620 posts)Voltaire2
(12,984 posts)the same way.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)Some think cannibalism is unethical. Some think eating any animal is unethical.
Some would feel little sympathy for the death of cannibals because cannibals do something unethical. Many think Hannibal Lecter deserves the death penalty. She apparently feels little sympathy for the death of those who eat animals other than humans. Is that so different from those with little sympathy for the death oh Hannibal Lecter?
Her views are just a fairly reasonable generalized form of opposition to cannibalism.
Indeed, there is a reasonable view that she has a brain which is more logical than the brains of most people.
bluepen
(620 posts)Thanks for the laughs. Amazing.
Cicada
(4,533 posts)Not quite so bad.
A couple hundred years ago many probably thought opposition to African slaves was crazy.
I would not be surprised if a couple hundred years from now people will be horrified that once people ate animals.
Maybe someone will start a new nation premised on All Are Equal but only later liberate farm animals.
That these thoughts seem odd is pretty odd.
bluepen
(620 posts)I prefer science over emotion but its not for everyone. (And no, Im not going to debate settled science/history of human evolution. We get enough of that from climate change deniers and anti-vaxxers.) Good luck with everything.
Orsino
(37,428 posts)...and stays on television.
Money fixes everything.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Shed fit in well there.
Fullduplexxx
(7,851 posts)Oneironaut
(5,490 posts)I suddenly feel the need to pick up a pitchfork and torch!
Initech
(100,054 posts)petronius
(26,602 posts)Although I do think she's nicer than people who would send death threats, or actually track her down for a drive-by cursing. Those people really suck...
madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)Motownman78
(491 posts)People Eating Tasty Animals? For every animal she doesn't eat, I will eat 3.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)She does not represent the entire community.
TheFrenchRazor
(2,116 posts)for an excuse to unload all their defensiveness against vegetarians/vegans.
FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)Vegetarians/Vegans are like people that don't believe in abortion.
Most make their moral choice privately. They don't try to convert/condemn others that abide by their personal choices.
Don't believe in abortion, don't have one. Don't believe in eating meat, don't eat it.
The minute people cross the line into trying to push their morality onto others is where people, rightly, push back.
No one cares if someone is a vegan. People care if others try to push their moral code onto others.
The "defensive" argument is the same B.S. tactic anti-abortionists use, don't stoop to their level.
Motley13
(3,867 posts)Iggo
(47,545 posts)Bullshit.
adigal
(7,581 posts)it is a-ok for him to do that.
Orrex
(63,185 posts)And, thereafter, people treat them like the assholes they are.