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Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 06:32 AM Oct 2017

"Jensen deactivated her Facebook account, hidden her food truck, canceled her bookings..."



Delinda Jensen, 60, of Wilkes-Barre, said she's received death threats and had to shut down her business after her post Monday night started going viral, sparking intense backlash both online and off.

Jensen wrote: "Yes I am jaded. Fifty nine meat eaters dead. How many animals will live because of this?" In a second comment, she used an expletive to say she didn't care about "carnists."

"Was it poorly written? Absolutely. Do I regret it? Yes. I am so sorry I wrote that," she said Thursday. "Meat eaters or not, no one deserves to die like that. I wasn't celebrating the death of those people."

***

Jensen has since deactivated her Facebook account, hidden her food truck and canceled her bookings, and installed a security camera at her home. Her son said people have driven by their home, shouting threats and obscenities, and they have called police several times out of fear for their safety.

http://www.ktnv.com/news/las-vegas-shooting/vegan-biz-owner-sorry-for-post-about-las-vegas-meat-eaters_83543302
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"Jensen deactivated her Facebook account, hidden her food truck, canceled her bookings..." (Original Post) Miles Archer Oct 2017 OP
Reap the benefits of stupid comments Watchfoxheadexplodes Oct 2017 #1
Yes, vegetarians probably died also Cicada Oct 2017 #16
We attempt to regulate meat production... Weekend Warrior Oct 2017 #30
Hard to fathom that people don't THINK before posting shit on social media. Laurian Oct 2017 #2
of course more disturbing is how some can't let dumb internet posts remain just dumb internet posts unblock Oct 2017 #8
I disagree FLPanhandle Oct 2017 #21
Insensitivity to the departed does not compare to naziism unblock Oct 2017 #23
She was beyond insensitivity FLPanhandle Oct 2017 #24
It's horribly insensitive, but nothing more unblock Oct 2017 #25
Rec! nt chowder66 Oct 2017 #28
She didn't think before she posted Tavarious Jackson Oct 2017 #3
How will you convince animals to stop eating meat? Not Ruth Oct 2017 #5
She doesn't think, period whathehell Oct 2017 #10
More steak, bacon, chicken wings, lamb chops and fish boils for me!!! LuvLoogie Oct 2017 #19
I think the problem is she did. nt B2G Oct 2017 #33
"How many animals will live because of this?" Not Ruth Oct 2017 #4
People are animals, too. CozyMystery Oct 2017 #15
yes we are. Caliman73 Oct 2017 #22
horrible Skittles Oct 2017 #6
i was about to post this question, how does she know what they ate? unblock Oct 2017 #7
She doesn't know squat.. whathehell Oct 2017 #13
the woman is just plain hateful Skittles Oct 2017 #32
There are moments of opportunity, and moments in which silence is the best solution Miles Archer Oct 2017 #12
Freakin' nutcase. And anyway, her assumption is just that....ASS. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #9
She should volunteer to give her background checking software to the FBI , NSA and CIA DFW Oct 2017 #11
Her brain would work better if she ate some meat. bluepen Oct 2017 #14
i dont think fire and stupid should be fought Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #18
Or if she were a cannibal? Cicada Oct 2017 #26
Looks like we need to update Godwins Law to include Hannibal. bluepen Oct 2017 #37
Maybe we should count eating 1 animal like eating 3/5 of a human Cicada Oct 2017 #38
Why wait? Start now! bluepen Oct 2017 #39
But Pat Robertson blames disasters on LGBTQ people and political opponents... Orsino Oct 2017 #17
Sounds like PETA Employee of the Month material NightWatcher Oct 2017 #20
Plants are living things also Fullduplexxx Oct 2017 #27
Ohhhh the media is telling us what we should be outraged about again. Oneironaut Oct 2017 #29
She'll have a nice job at Infowars, I guess. Initech Oct 2017 #31
Well, she seems nice. petronius Oct 2017 #34
ZOMG!!! Soylent green. IT'S PEOPLE!!! madinmaryland Oct 2017 #35
Is she part of P.E.T.A? Motownman78 Oct 2017 #36
No need for all the vegan/vegetarian-trashing on this thread oberliner Oct 2017 #40
thank you. the responses here are as predictable as clockwork. some people are really just looking f TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #41
No one is defensive against vegetarians/vegans FLPanhandle Oct 2017 #45
apparently alcohol is still on her menu Motley13 Oct 2017 #42
"I wasn't celebrating the death of those people." Iggo Oct 2017 #43
Meanwhile, the POTUS threatens nuclear war on Twitter, and no one harasses him adigal Oct 2017 #44
Well, sometimes assholes reveal themselves as assholes. Orrex Oct 2017 #46

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
16. Yes, vegetarians probably died also
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 08:42 AM
Oct 2017

She apparently thinks it is immoral to kill animals for food. Other people think it would be immoral to kill humans for food. But how do we know cannibalism is immoral but eating nonhuman animals is ok? Why are we so certain it’s ok to eat non humans but not ok to eat humans? We look back on slave owners and think they were immoral. They thought slavery was ethical. There is a good chance that 200 years from now people will look back on meat eaters and see them as even worse than slave owners. At least slave owners didn’t cut the slaves into pieces and eat them. Why is it ok to eat a dog or a sheep but not ok to eat a person?

Or Maybe we should reconsider the ban on cannibalism. Maybe those who eat meat are indeed ethical.

 

Weekend Warrior

(1,301 posts)
30. We attempt to regulate meat production...
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 01:38 PM
Oct 2017

In a manner that makes it more efficient and holds to societal norms. There are many reasons to outlaw canibalism outside of morals. I find this to be one of the more faulty arguments people make. The only way it would hold validity is to ignore all that is around while focusing on the absurd.

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
2. Hard to fathom that people don't THINK before posting shit on social media.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 06:42 AM
Oct 2017

There are so many examples of these kinds of postings having bad consequences, but people keep doing it. Even if I had such thoughts (I don't!), I cannot imagine revealing them in such a public way.

Facebook and Twitter are certainly revealing some scary ugliness in our midst. Maybe we need to know what people actually think, but it is distressing.

unblock

(52,164 posts)
8. of course more disturbing is how some can't let dumb internet posts remain just dumb internet posts
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 07:26 AM
Oct 2017

so she posted something stupid on the internet. respond on the internet that the post was stupid.

no need for death threats and drive-bys and hounding and harassing.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
21. I disagree
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 11:18 AM
Oct 2017

When some Nazi's were caught online posting shit, some got hounded and fired from their jobs.

She is just as much as an ideological idiot as the Nazi's. Like the Nazi's, she believes "Anyone who doesn't agree with her belief system doesn't deserve sympathy and the world is better off with them dead" .

Like the Nazi's, she deserves to be outed and have to live with the consequences of her actions.

unblock

(52,164 posts)
23. Insensitivity to the departed does not compare to naziism
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 11:38 AM
Oct 2017

Had she, say, advocated killing "carnists", that's another story.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
24. She was beyond insensitivity
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 12:15 PM
Oct 2017





She viewed their deaths as a positive and "I don't give a fuck about carnists anymore".

Sounds like a Nazi type post to me.




 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
3. She didn't think before she posted
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 06:48 AM
Oct 2017

It's ugly but I do hope that some day in the future meat eating will be seen barbaric and archaic.

 

Not Ruth

(3,613 posts)
4. "How many animals will live because of this?"
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 06:49 AM
Oct 2017

Animals are not vegan, so possibly fewer animals will live because of this.

Caliman73

(11,726 posts)
22. yes we are.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 11:25 AM
Oct 2017

It is something that people rarely acknowledge. We are possibly, the smartest and most capable animal on the planet at this time, but we are animals. We are omnivores. Now, we can certainly talk about industrial farming practices, waste, inhumane treatment of livestock, and many other bad practices that we engage in, but to make a blanket statement that people who eat meat are immoral is not something that will get you heard.

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
6. horrible
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 06:59 AM
Oct 2017

strange how people assume what others simply going to a concert must vote for, eat, etc. Sick to want them killed for it.

unblock

(52,164 posts)
7. i was about to post this question, how does she know what they ate?
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 07:23 AM
Oct 2017

i thought all we knew about them was that they were at a country music show...?

whathehell

(29,050 posts)
13. She doesn't know squat..
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 07:44 AM
Oct 2017

and if any one saw the clips of these people, who they were, they''d

see that they were a surprisingly diverse group -- Not all white

and decidedly NOT just a "group of hillbillies listening to

hillbilly music" as one DUer derisively painted them.

Miles Archer

(18,837 posts)
12. There are moments of opportunity, and moments in which silence is the best solution
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 07:43 AM
Oct 2017

This ended up being a Milo Yiannopoulos moment for her...I have no idea what she was thinking or why she felt these were appropriate remarks to make on social media (or maybe she simply felt there would be no backlash), but like all of us, she has a right to free speech. The public is going to respond. She might have felt that she was being witty and topical and outrageous...I don't know. It was the wrong thing to say at the wrong time, and while "death threats" are always an extreme reaction to words, that's how society rolls. There are certain things that you simply do not say unless you are fully prepared to deal with the response.

We are an angry, agitated, divided, often frightened nation that is unsure of the future. We keep hoping that "Republican leadership" will, at some point, "do the right thing." And we hope for that without a shred of evidence that they will. We have no reason for that hope, it is misplaced. We have career politicians who care only about their own agendas, the checks they receive from certain "special interest" groups.

She now realizes that this wasn't the best move on her part. She's closed the barn door after all of the livestock escaped. The next time she feels the need to express similar thoughts, she might remember this and reconsider. I believe in free speech, and I also believe our words have consequences.

DFW

(54,328 posts)
11. She should volunteer to give her background checking software to the FBI , NSA and CIA
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 07:34 AM
Oct 2017

I doubt even they could ascertain so quickly the eating habits of every single victim of the Las Vegas shooting.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
26. Or if she were a cannibal?
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 12:43 PM
Oct 2017

Some think cannibalism is unethical. Some think eating any animal is unethical.

Some would feel little sympathy for the death of cannibals because cannibals do something unethical. Many think Hannibal Lecter deserves the death penalty. She apparently feels little sympathy for the death of those who eat animals other than humans. Is that so different from those with little sympathy for the death oh Hannibal Lecter?

Her views are just a fairly reasonable generalized form of opposition to cannibalism.



Indeed, there is a reasonable view that she has a brain which is more logical than the brains of most people.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
38. Maybe we should count eating 1 animal like eating 3/5 of a human
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 04:08 PM
Oct 2017

Not quite so bad.

A couple hundred years ago many probably thought opposition to African slaves was crazy.

I would not be surprised if a couple hundred years from now people will be horrified that once people ate animals.

Maybe someone will start a new nation premised on All Are Equal but only later liberate farm animals.

That these thoughts seem odd is pretty odd.



bluepen

(620 posts)
39. Why wait? Start now!
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 04:36 PM
Oct 2017

I prefer science over emotion but it’s not for everyone. (And no, I’m not going to debate settled science/history of human evolution. We get enough of that from climate change deniers and anti-vaxxers.) Good luck with everything.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
17. But Pat Robertson blames disasters on LGBTQ people and political opponents...
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 08:53 AM
Oct 2017

...and stays on television.

Money fixes everything.

Oneironaut

(5,490 posts)
29. Ohhhh the media is telling us what we should be outraged about again.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 01:32 PM
Oct 2017

I suddenly feel the need to pick up a pitchfork and torch!

petronius

(26,602 posts)
34. Well, she seems nice.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 03:14 PM
Oct 2017


Although I do think she's nicer than people who would send death threats, or actually track her down for a drive-by cursing. Those people really suck...
 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
40. No need for all the vegan/vegetarian-trashing on this thread
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 04:46 PM
Oct 2017

She does not represent the entire community.

 

TheFrenchRazor

(2,116 posts)
41. thank you. the responses here are as predictable as clockwork. some people are really just looking f
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 04:54 PM
Oct 2017

for an excuse to unload all their defensiveness against vegetarians/vegans.

FLPanhandle

(7,107 posts)
45. No one is defensive against vegetarians/vegans
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 07:14 PM
Oct 2017

Vegetarians/Vegans are like people that don't believe in abortion.

Most make their moral choice privately. They don't try to convert/condemn others that abide by their personal choices.

Don't believe in abortion, don't have one. Don't believe in eating meat, don't eat it.

The minute people cross the line into trying to push their morality onto others is where people, rightly, push back.

No one cares if someone is a vegan. People care if others try to push their moral code onto others.

The "defensive" argument is the same B.S. tactic anti-abortionists use, don't stoop to their level.

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
44. Meanwhile, the POTUS threatens nuclear war on Twitter, and no one harasses him
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 07:11 PM
Oct 2017

it is a-ok for him to do that.

Orrex

(63,185 posts)
46. Well, sometimes assholes reveal themselves as assholes.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 08:06 PM
Oct 2017

And, thereafter, people treat them like the assholes they are.

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