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applegrove

(118,632 posts)
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 07:58 PM Oct 2017

Trump Explodes After He Finds Out That US Companies Arent Allowed To Pay Bribes

By Jason Easley at Politicus USA

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/10/07/corrupt-trump-explodes-finds-companies-allowed-pay-bribes.html

"SNIP............


Donald Trump was enraged when he found out that it is illegal for US companies to pay bribes to heads of foreign governments.

There was an enlightening tidbit in The New Yorker’s profile of Sec. of State Rex Tillerson, “In February, a few weeks after Tillerson was confirmed by the Senate, he visited the Oval Office to introduce the President to a potential deputy, but Trump had something else on his mind. He began fulminating about federal laws that prohibit American businesses from bribing officials overseas; the businesses, he said, were being unfairly penalized.”

The exchange between Trump and Tillerson illustrates that the President Of The United States wants to encourage corruption. Trump has no ethical or moral compass. He doesn’t see why it is illegal for US companies to be handing out bribes.

It is unfathomable that a president is raging because his country can’t be more corrupt. Trump’s attitude on the issue should also perk up the ears of the Special Counsel as a businessman president who doesn’t think it is wrong to pay bribes to heads of foreign governments has probably broken the law and paid bribes himself.


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Trump Explodes After He Finds Out That US Companies Arent Allowed To Pay Bribes (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2017 OP
While trump destroys our name and credibility for good, Gorsuch and team Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #1
Bribes ruin poorer countries and entrench the rich. They make those countries un-meritocracies. applegrove Oct 2017 #2
See Z Teachout on our legalized political corruption. sharedvalues Oct 2017 #10
You mean Justice Stolen Seat? Justice Illegitimate? sharedvalues Oct 2017 #9
He's a monster. He must leave, patriots must help him find the door. n/t Judi Lynn Oct 2017 #3
A normal Congress would impeach him over this. It's unconscionable for a president to advocate this. LonePirate Oct 2017 #4
A permanent bruise madamesilverspurs Oct 2017 #5
Shall we take bets on how long that Doreen Oct 2017 #6
... Lucinda Oct 2017 #7
May be an indicator of his customary behavior in New York and other states. KY_EnviroGuy Oct 2017 #8
kick for visibility L. Coyote Oct 2017 #11
He just learned xxqqqzme Oct 2017 #12
Just another example why you don't run the government like a business. old guy Oct 2017 #13
Foreign Corrupt Practices Act... paleotn Oct 2017 #14
Why does he care what the laws say? He ignores them. spooky3 Oct 2017 #15
But Wait! maddiemom Oct 2017 #16
I think Mueller isn't allowed to investigate other crimes Trump may have been involved in. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #17
And anything else tazkcmo Oct 2017 #19
Heard someone on tv clarifying a while back. It has to be related to his "objectives" as given. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #20
Here it is. Rosenstein clarified in August. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #21
They have been stacking federal courts with Trump's cronies IronLionZion Oct 2017 #18
plays the WH like the apprentice-he made contestants call all their friends and beg for 'donations" Sunlei Oct 2017 #22

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
1. While trump destroys our name and credibility for good, Gorsuch and team
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 08:01 PM
Oct 2017

are grinning ear to ear about all the rights they are going to end.
All the money they will steal, all the minority lives they will END or ruin.

applegrove

(118,632 posts)
2. Bribes ruin poorer countries and entrench the rich. They make those countries un-meritocracies.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 08:03 PM
Oct 2017

It ruins the lives of thousands like some horrible disease. Of course rich people like Trump would like bribes. Easier to get richer as there is less competition when you have to pay to play. Meanwhile small business people can't get a foothold in business and it ruins the economy.

sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
10. See Z Teachout on our legalized political corruption.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 09:19 PM
Oct 2017
https://mobile.nytimes.com/2014/10/19/books/review/zephyr-teachouts-corruption-in-america.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/in-theory/wp/2016/05/05/how-the-supreme-court-gets-corruption-totally-wrong/

How the Supreme Court gets corruption totally wrong

Members of Congress spend the majority of their time fundraising from wealthy donors, learning the smallest details about donors' lives — at the expense of learning about the policy details most relevant to their legislative work. When they're not fundraising, members may be anxious about meeting their fundraising quotas set by the national committees, or worried about offending the secret donors to powerful super PACs. This lurking fear undoubtedly shapes policy decisions, lest a wrong move trigger a deluge of attack ads from special interests.

The Supreme Court has said that none of this is corrupt or corrupting. That defies law, history and logic.





sharedvalues

(6,916 posts)
9. You mean Justice Stolen Seat? Justice Illegitimate?
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 09:18 PM
Oct 2017

Justice Hypocrite? (See his disgusting rule of law speech at the Trump Hotel of Illegal Emoluments)

You keep saying that name beginning with G and I don't know who that is.

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
6. Shall we take bets on how long that
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 09:05 PM
Oct 2017

trump and the administration try to turn that law. Another bet on whether they will succeed.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,490 posts)
8. May be an indicator of his customary behavior in New York and other states.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 09:15 PM
Oct 2017

Some deals in Illinois come to mind.

xxqqqzme

(14,887 posts)
12. He just learned
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 09:34 PM
Oct 2017

he has been conducting 'business' illegally? The real reason he didn't want Mueller poking into his wheeling and dealing.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
14. Foreign Corrupt Practices Act...
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 10:14 PM
Oct 2017

Know it. Love it. Live it.

Enacted back in a time when corrupt business practices were considered a very bad thing, thus it has teeth. Violators can be fined and put in prison. Plus!...corporations cannot pay the fines of individuals. They have to pay the fines out of their own pockets. If he didn't know about something that's been on the books since the late 70's, Trump company's legal council royally sucks, considering how much business they do internationally.

Probably safe to assume Muller and company are already covering that ground.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
17. I think Mueller isn't allowed to investigate other crimes Trump may have been involved in.
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 10:54 PM
Oct 2017

His instructions are to investigate possible collusion w/Russia and obstruction of justice.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
20. Heard someone on tv clarifying a while back. It has to be related to his "objectives" as given.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:05 PM
Oct 2017

He can't go off on a fishing expedition or file charges for something unrelated. Say, if they found out he stole a car. If that's not related to obstruction or Russia collusion, Mueller can't do anything about it, except maybe report it to another authority to investigate.

Anything else he investigates has to be reasonably related to the purposes of his investigation.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
21. Here it is. Rosenstein clarified in August.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:28 PM
Oct 2017
Rosenstein said special counsel Robert S. Mueller III can investigate any crimes that he might discover within the scope of his probe, but the deputy attorney general would not discuss which individuals are the subject of their inquiry. The interview comes days after Trump said he believes it would be inappropriate for Mueller to dig into Trump family finances.

“The special counsel is subject to the rules and regulations of the Department of Justice, and we don’t engage in fishing expeditions,” Rosenstein said when asked about the probe in an interview on “Fox News Sunday.”
(emphasis added)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/powerpost/rosenstein-special-counsel-mueller-can-investigate-any-crimes-he-uncovers-in-russia-probe/2017/08/06/2209365a-7aae-11e7-83c7-5bd5460f0d7e_story.html?utm_term=.3d4f103aabd2

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
18. They have been stacking federal courts with Trump's cronies
Sat Oct 7, 2017, 10:55 PM
Oct 2017

like a very large amount. There were many vacancies when they had blocked Obama's nominees. These assholes are fundamentally altering the moral compass of America because these judges will have lifetime appointments to rule in favor of corruption and screw the rest of us.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
22. plays the WH like the apprentice-he made contestants call all their friends and beg for 'donations"
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:40 PM
Oct 2017

same fucking script- Republicans 'appointed 'Admin are supposed to bring in bribes from their 'foreign friends'.

on a TV show the apprentice contestants begging their friends for donations was a fiction entertainment,....for a government its called corruption.

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