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Does Alex on MSNBC think she is at the beach? (Original Post) jodymarie aimee Oct 2017 OP
Unprofessional..n/t monmouth4 Oct 2017 #1
Actually, it IS a "professional" look for women cable anchors these days. Hortensis Oct 2017 #44
Just look at Pox Noise. calimary Oct 2017 #53
Oh, really? Poor dear. CNN and MSNBC are both trying to be more "poxy" Hortensis Oct 2017 #87
Alex doesn't appear to be revealing any more than the Twitt, RNC Spokesperson Kayleigh Mcenany is politicaljunkie41910 Oct 2017 #162
Professional as in "pro" I guess. ananda Oct 2017 #91
Won't go there. We'd all be pros if conforming to required appearances were the definition. Hortensis Oct 2017 #98
Really? cwydro Oct 2017 #161
Man, and here I thought provincialism was more aligned with conservatives. TheBlackAdder Oct 2017 #163
Not for NBC's Entertainment Tonight rocktivity Oct 2017 #157
It's RIDICULOUS. I mean, what the freak?! WinkyDink Oct 2017 #2
I thought she looked like left over from Saturday night..forgot to change her asiliveandbreathe Oct 2017 #3
Someone made the "walk of shame" directly to work.... AJT Oct 2017 #8
No one would say that about a male anchor. RandySF Oct 2017 #155
If he were wearing a roughed up tux people would know.....it would be embarrassing. AJT Oct 2017 #156
She looks sexy. woolldog Oct 2017 #4
"Sexy" is not professional or appropriate for a news anchor. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #6
You got all of that from "she looks sexy"? BannonsLiver Oct 2017 #13
Yes, actually. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #33
yeah I don't don't shame women based on their looks. BannonsLiver Oct 2017 #36
It's not slut-shaming. Nobody is accusing her of looking slutty. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #42
Fair enough. I'm not sure I agree in this particular case. But that's a thoughtful response. BannonsLiver Oct 2017 #51
See reply #10. It literally shouts 'shame!' at her and calls her dress 'slutty' (nt) muriel_volestrangler Oct 2017 #114
Well said, thank you question everything Oct 2017 #115
Clothes are not part of the term "looks." Looks are not usually WinkyDink Oct 2017 #92
Yeah, actually they are but thanks for the input. BannonsLiver Oct 2017 #111
Yeah, no. "Looks," plural, is not the same as "a look" or "appearance." See: WinkyDink Oct 2017 #118
and Oh My, did anyone mention that to the faux noise women?? a kennedy Oct 2017 #54
No point to that, I should think. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #93
Just wondering here - are you male, by any chance? calimary Oct 2017 #12
Oh! Look at her! She's hot! tenderfoot Oct 2017 #14
... leftstreet Oct 2017 #26
LMAO. n/t LuckyCharms Oct 2017 #45
You made the OP's point. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #90
That was a bit much. The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #5
In the mid-seventies marybourg Oct 2017 #84
Without being too specific, what's she wearing? Orrex Oct 2017 #7
She's in-studio, in the anchor chair, and all you see is bare skin from the chest up. calimary Oct 2017 #15
I'm sure that Bill Hemmer will wear the same outfit in his next segment. Orrex Oct 2017 #17
You'll be alright. I promise. BannonsLiver Oct 2017 #22
The patronizing can stop. RIGHT NOW. Thank you very much. calimary Oct 2017 #28
LOL BannonsLiver Oct 2017 #29
I wish someone would post a pic. cwydro Oct 2017 #24
It's called the "cold shoulder" look, doesn't look comfortable or warm enough: Rhiannon12866 Oct 2017 #68
They're Called Cold Shoulder Tops Me. Oct 2017 #37
The dress Megyn Kelly wore for her Putin interview was also inappropriate as heck: tblue37 Oct 2017 #63
Thank you for posting that. spiderpig Oct 2017 #136
Here is a pic: demmiblue Oct 2017 #43
Can't wait for Roy Clark to bust out a solo on the fiddle! (nt) Orrex Oct 2017 #47
You are showing your age there; Roy died 25 years ago. comradebillyboy Oct 2017 #77
Not if we believe. Orrex Oct 2017 #78
Supposably. Iggo Oct 2017 #105
Roy's still here Zorro Oct 2017 #158
Yup. 84. Not dead. TexasBushwhacker Oct 2017 #159
my mistake comradebillyboy Oct 2017 #168
Orrex jodymarie aimee Oct 2017 #148
Well, that is a bit jarring, but I guess she gets to choose what she wants to wear. cwydro Oct 2017 #49
That's it? melman Oct 2017 #113
THAT is what all the fuss is about? phleshdef Oct 2017 #129
"those bothered are the problem" melman Oct 2017 #138
I think the top is fine jmowreader Oct 2017 #145
BREAKING: An Important Message From The Church Lady! TheBlackAdder Oct 2017 #165
The moment she came on the air, madaboutharry Oct 2017 #9
Personal opinion here - but this cold-shoulder look is ridiculous spiderpig Oct 2017 #140
I noticed that immediately. SHAME on her! I tweeted about that to her. calimary Oct 2017 #10
You've got to be kidding with this melman Oct 2017 #121
Lots of Judgy McJudgersons on this thread. BannonsLiver Oct 2017 #11
I don't think pointing out a fact is being judgy. madaboutharry Oct 2017 #21
I do. And if a male started the discussion there would be hell to pay. BannonsLiver Oct 2017 #23
I disagree. madaboutharry Oct 2017 #30
Hogwash. procon Oct 2017 #59
Thanks. BannonsLiver Oct 2017 #61
Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #16
Just for fun - what's wrong with FAT? nt Dreamer Tatum Oct 2017 #18
Mean post... Oneironaut Oct 2017 #40
She doesnt look fat at all. cwydro Oct 2017 #50
Alex Witt? yallerdawg Oct 2017 #19
"Modest" is HARDLY the word for it. calimary Oct 2017 #41
Her shoulders are exposed? yallerdawg Oct 2017 #57
Neither she nor Alex have the kind of bodies to show off their goods. MoonRiver Oct 2017 #67
I think they are both spectacularly beautiful women! yallerdawg Oct 2017 #72
I don't care either. MoonRiver Oct 2017 #73
That's some sexist bullshit right there. phleshdef Oct 2017 #130
I think the worsd that people are struggling for is "casual" Dreamer Tatum Oct 2017 #20
Casual, not professional. Not a credible anchor look. I prefer Rachel Maddow's look. Professional SharonAnn Oct 2017 #25
She's not credible no matter what she's wearing. onecaliberal Oct 2017 #32
I cant get MSNBC right now. Pic? Anyone? cwydro Oct 2017 #27
It's really a whole lot of nothing BannonsLiver Oct 2017 #31
Lol, Im trying to picture what could be so bad. cwydro Oct 2017 #34
So if Ali Velshi or Anderson Cooper came on camera wearing a tank top The Velveteen Ocelot Oct 2017 #35
If AC wants to wear women's clothing that's his business. BannonsLiver Oct 2017 #38
Being from the old school saidsimplesimon Oct 2017 #70
But but ... TenHouseCats Oct 2017 #135
Thank you. spiderpig Oct 2017 #164
here.... spanone Oct 2017 #48
Thanks! Nt cwydro Oct 2017 #55
👍🏼 spanone Oct 2017 #58
I dont know why it would matter, unless if she was forced to wear those clothes. Oneironaut Oct 2017 #39
Please see Post 43. calimary Oct 2017 #46
I still dont get it. Shes a little casual, but her shoulders are showing. Oneironaut Oct 2017 #60
When I went to go seek out what the fuss was about xor Oct 2017 #80
... and ... what? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2017 #110
I know, the SHAME post kinda made her sound like Hester Prynne. cwydro Oct 2017 #166
I didn't see it on TV, but judging by the pic of her in this thread... LuckyCharms Oct 2017 #52
You'd think she was wearing a thong from some of the reactions. BannonsLiver Oct 2017 #62
Jesus H christ, Are we adults here, Is this 2017? Old Vet Oct 2017 #56
Yes, and that's the whole gist of the criticisms. procon Oct 2017 #71
Some of you think that, fine. Most of us don't. wasupaloopa Oct 2017 #89
And who are these people you speak of; the "most or us"? procon Oct 2017 #107
Like I said it ain't a big deal wasupaloopa Oct 2017 #142
If that's your only takeaway from all the posts in this thread, no wonder procon Oct 2017 #146
LOL! That's the "cold shoulder" fashion look, donchaknow? Rhiannon12866 Oct 2017 #64
Fashion confession BannonsLiver Oct 2017 #65
Its a good one, thats for sure! cwydro Oct 2017 #74
Usually Hiding a Bald Head at Clubs in Texas Stallion Oct 2017 #85
Oh dear me. lpbk2713 Oct 2017 #66
You should see the female staff at the MLB Network CakeGrrl Oct 2017 #69
Ashton is that you? Am I being punkd? Agschmid Oct 2017 #75
Thats what my mom said MFM008 Oct 2017 #76
BARE FEMALE SHOULDERS ON TV? ON A SUNDAY!!!! xor Oct 2017 #79
It's not a bad outfit per se. It IS, however, not appropriate for the job. You know, like it works WinkyDink Oct 2017 #95
Alex Twit became confused. Polly Hennessey Oct 2017 #81
I think she's a beautiful woman. I think the look is fine on her. I don't think it's appropriate OregonBlue Oct 2017 #82
Or Nicolle Wallace? question everything Oct 2017 #83
Someone explain how this is different to the gop "ban" on sleeveless attire... WoonTars Oct 2017 #86
I agree with you. She is wearing the current fashion I think. wasupaloopa Oct 2017 #88
Yeah, I'd find your comment credible if I didn't think you would NOT be okay with, say, Melania WinkyDink Oct 2017 #96
Why would someone not be OK with Melania wearing that? muriel_volestrangler Oct 2017 #126
Do we know each other? Last I looked Melanoma has worn MUCH less than that... WoonTars Oct 2017 #141
thank you. What the fucking fuck is up with the shaming going on here? Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #171
Jesus Christ ismnotwasm Oct 2017 #94
Mohammed. Do you find it logical attire for female journalists who aspire to projecting WinkyDink Oct 2017 #97
She's showing her shoulders and a bit of her neck. SaschaHM Oct 2017 #99
Do male reporters dress in any way to jeopardize their seriousness? Not talking of WinkyDink Oct 2017 #103
I'm sorry that you can't take a woman seriously if she's showing her shoulders. SaschaHM Oct 2017 #106
1. Re :Roberts-- You might, but not without noting his shirt. Don't play. 2. I can make a WinkyDink Oct 2017 #112
And you are entitled to that opinion. I don't think she goofed and I find SaschaHM Oct 2017 #116
Its worse than overblown. Its absolute brain dead nonsense. phleshdef Oct 2017 #147
exactly! Voltaire2 Oct 2017 #172
Ring....Ring...Yes, hello Zales Jewelers? I need 250 strings of pearls A HERETIC I AM Oct 2017 #100
Hahaha... Liberal Jesus Freak Oct 2017 #150
What's up with all the slut shaming? Baconator Oct 2017 #101
I have no idea. "Professionalism" seems to be the go to excuse in this thread. SaschaHM Oct 2017 #102
You've never heard of the concept "professional attire?" #sad #disingenuous WinkyDink Oct 2017 #104
Not surprised that you're starting to sound like Trump. SaschaHM Oct 2017 #108
EXCUSE ME??! Go read my history of posts, doofus. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #120
Insult. If you start calling people Sad and Disingenuous w/ hashtags, don't SaschaHM Oct 2017 #128
More surprising is Alex Witt going to work dressed like she was at one of Trump's parties. nt procon Oct 2017 #123
I don't know if you're a woman or ever had to wear professional attire... Baconator Oct 2017 #119
Yes. Teacher. Now, you were saying? Tell me, minus a wisecrack, that you would find that blouse WinkyDink Oct 2017 #122
Sure... Baconator Oct 2017 #133
Yea and its superficial garbage with no value to it outside of nosey ass people whining about it. phleshdef Oct 2017 #149
1. Look up "slut." 2. AS IF Melania's clothing choices have never been knocked on DU. AS IF. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #109
The last one I remember for Melania was wearing heels in a disaster zone... Baconator Oct 2017 #117
She changed her shoes. Next? WinkyDink Oct 2017 #124
I love prudish American bullshit on a Sunday. phleshdef Oct 2017 #125
Where can I see? RandySF Oct 2017 #127
Check post #43 if you want the pic. SaschaHM Oct 2017 #134
There might be a link on The Family Research Council website. Hassin Bin Sober Oct 2017 #152
This message was self-deleted by its author RandySF Oct 2017 #153
I'm more disturbed anyone started a tut tutting thread about her outfit than by her outfit! 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2017 #131
I will not read the other comments Mira Oct 2017 #132
dang i missed it.. was watching Roy Rogers... samnsara Oct 2017 #137
FFS I just heard this crap re. Wonder Woman RandySF Oct 2017 #139
Unfortunately, her hair is covering most of the dress' neckline, so it looks like a tube top rocktivity Oct 2017 #143
at last someone posted the pic of her... CTyankee Oct 2017 #151
Female News Personalities in Boston Say Theres A Push To Dress Sexier seaglass Oct 2017 #144
She looks fine RandySF Oct 2017 #154
Let's start w/ I'm an old fart, but I am a hippie and OldHippieChick Oct 2017 #160
She was just wearing the latest in fashion malaise Oct 2017 #167
This thread shows DU's demographics perfectly... snooper2 Oct 2017 #169
OMG! Kate Baldwin on CNN is showing CLEAVAGE! And worse, Pathwalker Oct 2017 #170

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
44. Actually, it IS a "professional" look for women cable anchors these days.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:11 PM
Oct 2017

Dignity and modesty are not just no longer requirements for on-screen "professionals," they are often proscribed. Most cable programming is first of all entertainment, after all.

Just look at CNN's long discussion of bump stocks and gun rights elbowing aside little, unimportant things like children's healthcare, SCOTUS's gerrymandering case, the newest tax scan to transfer increasingly large amounts of our national wealth to a few.

I opened this thread thinking it'd be about something else, btw, and find involved discussion of a blouse.

calimary

(81,110 posts)
53. Just look at Pox Noise.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:16 PM
Oct 2017

I noticed that NBC has been trying to redo Megyn Kelly's look, having her wear a few more demure things, less peek-a-boo or "come-hither".

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
87. Oh, really? Poor dear. CNN and MSNBC are both trying to be more "poxy"
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 03:43 PM
Oct 2017

to draw Fox viewers, and most of MSNBC and CNN are now on my drop-dead list, so I didn't realize. I did read her show's in trouble.

Who knows, though. Since so many people have been turned into zuckerheads, caring more about what the personalities are wearing and being entertained with the latest manufactured/sensationalized violence or scandal than real news, perhaps it'll help. I thought her serious haircut, losing the hackneyed glam locks, was her big restyling.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
162. Alex doesn't appear to be revealing any more than the Twitt, RNC Spokesperson Kayleigh Mcenany is
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 06:42 PM
Oct 2017

later in the segment. Both of them are exposing their shoulders and both seem to be covered up to their neck, except that Alex's hair and skin tone are so similar in color that it makes her look like she has little to nothing across the chest but that doesn't appear to be the case.

However, if it is a case where MSNBC is trying to force their female anchors to appear more sexy, than shame on the network, and they should hear from their viewers if they are trying to follow in the steps of Faux News to attract ratings.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
98. Won't go there. We'd all be pros if conforming to required appearances were the definition.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:07 PM
Oct 2017

Lol. The subject reminds me of a ruralish Italian restaurant down in Florida. All the servers, middle-aged women of various figure...profiles, wear t-shirts and black tights. Don't know who started it or if anyone's insisting they keep it up, but it and some good recipes do make that restaurant memorable. Suspect they may like letting people know they're still sexual beings who still have something to strut. At least that, and tips, are reasons I could identify with.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
3. I thought she looked like left over from Saturday night..forgot to change her
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:14 PM
Oct 2017

clothes....OMG as someone here said...sooo unprofessional....yikes!!

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
6. "Sexy" is not professional or appropriate for a news anchor.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:17 PM
Oct 2017

But who wants professional-looking women on their TV? Women aren't good for anything unless they look sexy, right?

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
42. It's not slut-shaming. Nobody is accusing her of looking slutty.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:10 PM
Oct 2017

She looks unprofessional, not dressed appropriately for her job as a major network news anchor. The male anchors are all dressed in business suits; why would a female anchor be dressed in a party or beach outfit? If I showed up at my (old) job wearing that top I'd be sent home to change clothes, but not because I looked "slutty" (at my age "slutty" would be a tough look to pull off), but because it would not be appropriate attire for appearing in front of the other professional people I was working with.

question everything

(47,434 posts)
115. Well said, thank you
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:19 PM
Oct 2017

It is unfortunate that there are too many men - young and old - and even young women, who do not understand what a professional appearance mean.

On Friday Nicolle Wallace on MSNBC wore an almost sun dress, and had a forum of four men, all in suits and ties.

Ever since Michelle Obama, in 2008, was praised for her "sculptured" arms, all of a sudden many women appearing on TV - cable, network, local - feel, or their producers feel, that they have to show as much akin as possible, whether their arms and thighs are toned.


a kennedy

(29,615 posts)
54. and Oh My, did anyone mention that to the faux noise women??
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:18 PM
Oct 2017
I do agree though, sexy dressing is NOT a requirement for news anchors.

calimary

(81,110 posts)
12. Just wondering here - are you male, by any chance?
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:31 PM
Oct 2017

"Sexy" for a NEWS ANCHOR????

Uh-uh, says THIS now-retired news anchor. That's not the point of a NEWS ANCHOR, okay? A NEWS ANCHOR is selling facts. NOT flagrant sex. And this is a NEWSCAST. NOT a peep show.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
5. That was a bit much.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:16 PM
Oct 2017

I've always been a bit irritated at the fact that the news shows dress their female hosts in attire more appropriate for a night out on the town (sleeveless, with cleavage), while the men wear professional-looking business suits. This outfit was way over the top, though. Who let her out there wearing that? Or did they make her wear it?

marybourg

(12,586 posts)
84. In the mid-seventies
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 03:13 PM
Oct 2017

professional women started balking at the "professional look" and started wanting to look "hot" also, as in "I can have it all". The first signs I noticed (I was an "older" professional woman) was strappy stiletto heels and sultry, long straight, unrestrained hair. This was still a minority "look" then, but it seems to have become nearly universal now, if what I've seen recently on lawyer/doctor shows on Netflix is anything to go by. But I'm long retired, so I don't really know.

And I find the dress, hair styles and obvious selection for appearance of the female anchors that I see (happily only in passing) on cable news offensive when contrasted to that of the male anchors.

Orrex

(63,172 posts)
7. Without being too specific, what's she wearing?
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:22 PM
Oct 2017

I don't want to know details; an approximate description is plenty.

Clamdiggers? Jeggings? Shorts and t-shirt?


Is she in a studio or on location?

calimary

(81,110 posts)
15. She's in-studio, in the anchor chair, and all you see is bare skin from the chest up.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:36 PM
Oct 2017

She's wearing one of those drop-shoulder tops that looks like a beach cover-up. Those tops are fashionable right now and look great if you're after the come-hither look at a cocktail party or some such big night out. That is flatly NOT appropriate attire for a news anchor. And on a Sunday morning, to beat.

No one will win any points for calling me a prude, okay? But FOR PETE'S SAKE! That is the most massively inappropriate on-camera outfit I think I've ever seen! Worse even than what's paraded all day long, every day, year-round, on Pox Noise.

Me.

(35,454 posts)
37. They're Called Cold Shoulder Tops
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:05 PM
Oct 2017

I agree about non-professional but she has a habit/history of skirting the line. However, I did think she really crossed it this morning.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
136. Thank you for posting that.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:52 PM
Oct 2017

Wasn't it in a promo for the fabulous interview? And in the "serious" conversation she wore more "serious" attire.

This shot was a head-turner when I first saw it. Nothing says "professional journalist" like a slinky off-the-shoulder dress slit up the thigh, accompanied by a pair of CFMs.

Women who spent their lives fighting for respect must be appalled.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
49. Well, that is a bit jarring, but I guess she gets to choose what she wants to wear.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:15 PM
Oct 2017

I’d feel like my shirt was falling off lol!

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
129. THAT is what all the fuss is about?
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:35 PM
Oct 2017

Last edited Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:17 PM - Edit history (1)

Man, I don't see why anyone would care, really, if that bothers anyone, those bothered are the problem, not her clothes.

 

melman

(7,681 posts)
138. "those bothered are the problem"
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:57 PM
Oct 2017

Exactly. Sometimes you have to step back and say 'maybe it's me'.

For anyone scandalized by that outfit, this would be on of those times.

jmowreader

(50,528 posts)
145. I think the top is fine
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:13 PM
Oct 2017

Whoever did her makeup needs to be thrown out of the union, though...she looks half-dead.

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
9. The moment she came on the air,
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:23 PM
Oct 2017

I thought "What is she wearing?"

She has dressed this way before in really poor fashion choices.

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
140. Personal opinion here - but this cold-shoulder look is ridiculous
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:02 PM
Oct 2017

and will soon become as dated as 80s padded shoulders and 60s Nehru jackets.

Whenever I see someone wearing one on TV I think: "Don't you realize that in coming years you will cringe looking back at yourself?

A well-tailored sleeveless dress is one thing (although I'm not fond of looking at armpits of any gender in a news environment), but this style reeks of "sloppy" and "ain't I current?" I wish it would go away.

calimary

(81,110 posts)
10. I noticed that immediately. SHAME on her! I tweeted about that to her.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:25 PM
Oct 2017

@AlexWitt Dear God, Alex, would you mind PUTTING SOME CLOTHES ON? PLEASE?? Horribly inappropriate on-camera outfit for a news anchor!

@AlexWitt Who OK'd your "anchoring" the news with all that bare skin showing? HORRIBLY inappropriate! Credibility, NOT semi-nudity! @msnbc

SHAME on her. Jodymarie aimee, you're absolutely right. You wear stuff like that to the beach. NOT to the news set. Unless, I suppose, if it's the Playboy Channel or some such thing.

I'm very uneasy about all that "look how my clothes are almost falling off!" fashion that's so pervasive right now. All those bare-shoulder tops that are okay if it's a cocktail party or an awards night or a heavy date that is deliberately planned to end in the bedroom. I WAS a news anchor when I was younger. Even on radio, I understood how important it was to dress for credibility. When I was working, women were just starting to gain entree - not only into the newsroom but actually on the air. That was back when the only female on the news set was the weather girl or some other professional cutie-pie who did the feature story or the kicker at the end of the news cast, and even then, said cutie-pie dressed at least somewhat appropriately. Back then, your credibility was all you had - ESPECIALLY for women trying to break through that particular glass ceiling. When I started, straight out of college radio in the mid-'70s, there were almost NO women in any significant positions. My first several jobs were because they had no women, at all, and needed one to be able to "check that box". Back then, a woman NEVER dressed like that - unless, of course, she wanted the boss's couch instead of the anchor chair.

Shit - I remember going to radio conventions where I was the only female wearing a blazer. Most of the other women there were dressed like Alex Witt chose to dress, for on-air, this morning. DISGRACEFUL!!!

I hope women all over America are tweeting to her about how slutty and inappropriate she's "dressed", while purporting to anchor the news. GOD, why didn't she just go on, wearing a bikini forcryingoutloud!

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
30. I disagree.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:57 PM
Oct 2017

And you don't know the gender of the OP. A lot of members use the names of their kids or relatives in their username. It isn't certain who the OP is. The fact is Alex Witt is wearing something inappropriate for a news anchor.

procon

(15,805 posts)
59. Hogwash.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:25 PM
Oct 2017

If some dude was sitting at an anchor desk in a cropped muscle shirt with his bare abs, I'd still criticise his poor judgement. Outside of Fox News and their tarted up buxom blondes, the news is a serious business, not a personal fashion show.

Witt made a poor decision, and it isn't her first. News anchors typically dress conservatively for a reason; they don't want to become a side story that makes them the brunt of laughter and derision, as she is now. She leaves a lot to be desired as a journalist, but when she chose to pull a beachy, summer sundress out of her closet in October to show off her bare shoulders, she gave up all pretense to the profession.

So, one more time to the aggrieved fashionistas, the criticism is not about this woman's malfunctioning wardrobe choice, it's about trying separate the respected journalists as consummate professionals, from the giddy clothes horses who giggle and coo on Fox News.

Response to jodymarie aimee (Original post)

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
19. Alex Witt?
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:39 PM
Oct 2017

Jezus H. Kryst.

She's wearing a modest blouse with a stylish 'cold-shoulder' cutout!

You did get me to look, though.

calimary

(81,110 posts)
41. "Modest" is HARDLY the word for it.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:09 PM
Oct 2017
https://imgur.com/a/HVeVF

I guess you have to click on the link. imgur.com changed. Now I can't find the link for posting in discussion groups.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
57. Her shoulders are exposed?
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:23 PM
Oct 2017

My standards of exhibitionism are evidently much, much higher than yours!

My favorite anchor person!


MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
67. Neither she nor Alex have the kind of bodies to show off their goods.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:42 PM
Oct 2017

Just saying. If you got it, flaunt it. If not, keep it covered.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
72. I think they are both spectacularly beautiful women!
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:52 PM
Oct 2017

But that has nothing to do with being very good news anchors who do very well at their jobs.

And I couldn't care less what they wear!

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
20. I think the worsd that people are struggling for is "casual"
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:40 PM
Oct 2017

She looks a little casual on air right now.

That's all.

BannonsLiver

(16,294 posts)
31. It's really a whole lot of nothing
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 12:57 PM
Oct 2017

She's wearing a top that doesn't cover her shoulders and some people are apoplectic.



The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,587 posts)
35. So if Ali Velshi or Anderson Cooper came on camera wearing a tank top
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:03 PM
Oct 2017

or one of those sleeveless undershirts to do a news broadcast you'd think he looked totally professional, right?

saidsimplesimon

(7,888 posts)
70. Being from the old school
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:49 PM
Oct 2017

of professional dress codes, it is my opinion that TV news anchors should dress better than Ben Franklin.

Didn't Thomas Jefferson say, "As for fashion, bend with the wind, on principal stand like a rock".

spiderpig

(10,419 posts)
164. Thank you.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 07:16 PM
Oct 2017

AW looks ridiculous now and will look like a fool a year from now.

It's been remarked that Cary Grant was the epitome of men's style because he never went to extremes in his attire. Always classically cut and tailored, which has given him a timeless image of class.

I wear what I want, but I'm not on camera purporting to be a serious journalist.

Oneironaut

(5,486 posts)
39. I dont know why it would matter, unless if she was forced to wear those clothes.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:08 PM
Oct 2017

I’m all for professionalism, but maybe she thought that top was cute and felt like wearing it today? It’s not like she’s naked or wearing BDSM attire. Not sure what the big deal is.

calimary

(81,110 posts)
46. Please see Post 43.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:13 PM
Oct 2017

"It's not like she's naked"? Well, all the camera has to do is zoom in a little, and...

Oneironaut

(5,486 posts)
60. I still dont get it. Shes a little casual, but her shoulders are showing.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:28 PM
Oct 2017

You would think her boobs would be hanging out based on the replies here. It’s pretty funny.

You can tell DU is getting bored and it’s a slow news day.

xor

(1,204 posts)
80. When I went to go seek out what the fuss was about
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 02:25 PM
Oct 2017

I assumed it was going to breasts hanging out with last night's makeup smeared all over her face. When I first found video of today I figured I must be looking at an older clip because it didn't seem bad at all. I dunno.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,266 posts)
110. ... and ... what?
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:14 PM
Oct 2017

What would a zoom show different? Is there some detail in the print of her dress that offends you? I get that bare shoulders are anathema to you, but I can see those without zooming in (and I have no religion telling me to find bare shoulders offensive). Is there something about her nostrils you hate too? A skin blemish? An out-of-place eyelash?

LuckyCharms

(17,413 posts)
52. I didn't see it on TV, but judging by the pic of her in this thread...
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:16 PM
Oct 2017

I think she looks OK. Maybe a tad inappropriate, but not over the top in my opinion.

Old Vet

(2,001 posts)
56. Jesus H christ, Are we adults here, Is this 2017?
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:18 PM
Oct 2017

Nothing in-proper with what shes wearing, Shes a fairly attractive lady wearing a nice outfit. I would of thought NOTHING about it if it wasn't for the do-gooders making a issue out of it.

procon

(15,805 posts)
71. Yes, and that's the whole gist of the criticisms.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:50 PM
Oct 2017

If she was going to the beach or a BBQ, then you're right, there is nothing improper with what Witt is wearing. However, she's a big time news anchor on a major news network, and instead of presenting a professional image as a respected journalist, Witt chose to look like she was attending a garden party in that frock.

Yes, she might be "a fairly attractive lady wearing a nice outfit", and again, that's the point, she's not hosting a lollapalooza fashion sale on the Home Shopping Network, yeah? Look at most TV anchor hosts, they are very professional and conservatively attired in unremarkable, dark, muted clothing choices.

This is not a question of us "do-gooders making a issue out of it", it's that some of us still think that its important to respect the value of journalism, a profession that is under constant attack by rightwing sources. Let not defend Alex Witt as she swings her news show towards the Fox News business model, where women really are cast as on air personalities based solely on their looks and their silly gyrations in keeping those too tight red dresses from revealing everything.

procon

(15,805 posts)
107. And who are these people you speak of; the "most or us"?
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:13 PM
Oct 2017

It's quite likely that most Republicans don't respect journalists, preferring to hide their shenanigans behind spurious claims of "fake news" whilst ogling women on Fox News. Please, point me to the links, the discouraging stats, that prove this stunning assertion you present is factual, that it ain't a big a deal, or admit this is merely your own personal opinion.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
142. Like I said it ain't a big deal
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:04 PM
Oct 2017

You make such a big deal of some woman's bare shoulders.

I doubt you are a majority.

procon

(15,805 posts)
146. If that's your only takeaway from all the posts in this thread, no wonder
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:13 PM
Oct 2017

the real criticisms don't even register.

Rhiannon12866

(204,763 posts)
64. LOL! That's the "cold shoulder" fashion look, donchaknow?
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:36 PM
Oct 2017

It annoys the hell out of me, too - not just that it's unflattering, but it makes no sense if you're looking for a warm sweater...


BannonsLiver

(16,294 posts)
65. Fashion confession
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:39 PM
Oct 2017

My pet peeve: People who aren't actual cowboys wearing cowboy hats. It just looks ridiculous.

My God this thread is delightfully ridiculous.

CakeGrrl

(10,611 posts)
69. You should see the female staff at the MLB Network
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 01:47 PM
Oct 2017

Granted, it's sports/entertainment, but the women sure do have to glam it up for fans of a sport whose players consistently spit and crotch-adjust. High heels, tight dresses and skirts. No slacks or pantsuits - or anyone over about 3% body fat - to be seen.

xor

(1,204 posts)
79. BARE FEMALE SHOULDERS ON TV? ON A SUNDAY!!!!
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 02:19 PM
Oct 2017

Someone get that woman a burqa ASAP!


I wouldn't have thought anything of it if I saw it before reading your thread. Maybe a generational thing?

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
95. It's not a bad outfit per se. It IS, however, not appropriate for the job. You know, like it works
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:01 PM
Oct 2017

in the real world.

It would be inappropriate for a teacher, for a banker, for a cop, for a physician,.....you surely get the drift.

But hey, if Jeremy Bash shows up in just swimming trunks, I'm there! 😝

Polly Hennessey

(6,787 posts)
81. Alex Twit became confused.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 02:29 PM
Oct 2017

Alex gives us news tidbits while we wait for our Daiquiri. Weather today: bright and sunny. Perfect for off the shoulder attire -- make that both shoulders. It is the Balmy Breeze News Hour with Alex Twit.

OregonBlue

(7,754 posts)
82. I think she's a beautiful woman. I think the look is fine on her. I don't think it's appropriate
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 02:49 PM
Oct 2017

for a news program. Not a very serious look. On the other hand, I don't think she should be stoned for having made a bad choice.

question everything

(47,434 posts)
83. Or Nicolle Wallace?
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 02:54 PM
Oct 2017

On Friday she was wearing sun dress while having five guests, all men, in suits and ties. Yes, I, too, turned it off.

Ever since Michelle Obama, in 2008, was praised for her "sculptured arms," many women facing the screen - I can hardly call them journalists - show that they, too, have them. And if the tables are open, show some thigh, too.

WoonTars

(694 posts)
86. Someone explain how this is different to the gop "ban" on sleeveless attire...
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 03:34 PM
Oct 2017

...for female reporters? How about its none of your damn business what she chooses to wear on the air.

What is this, the fucking fifities?

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
88. I agree with you. She is wearing the current fashion I think.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 03:44 PM
Oct 2017

It is a shoulderless top. Add sleeves and nobody would notice.

I think seeing bare shoulders adds a little more skin in the image but seeing shoulders is not unusual.

I don't have a problem with it.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
96. Yeah, I'd find your comment credible if I didn't think you would NOT be okay with, say, Melania
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:05 PM
Oct 2017

wearing the same outfit.

Or a male TV newscaster showing up in a T-shirt or maybe no shirt.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,266 posts)
126. Why would someone not be OK with Melania wearing that?
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:30 PM
Oct 2017

For instance, here's a First Lady making a speech to the DNC (and being praised for her dress):



http://www.bravotv.com/blogs/15-times-michelle-obama-slayed-flotus-style

I think a political speech is comparable to presenting a TV show.

WoonTars

(694 posts)
141. Do we know each other? Last I looked Melanoma has worn MUCH less than that...
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:03 PM
Oct 2017

...and I've been fine with it...

Like i said, this ain't the fifties and we need to stop judging women based on their looks, or what they wear..

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
97. Mohammed. Do you find it logical attire for female journalists who aspire to projecting
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:06 PM
Oct 2017

seriousness, even gravitas?

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
99. She's showing her shoulders and a bit of her neck.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:08 PM
Oct 2017

By the way some folks are making it sound, you'd think she was exposing her breast.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
103. Do male reporters dress in any way to jeopardize their seriousness? Not talking of
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:10 PM
Oct 2017

"on the scene" of wars or tragedies, but in-studio.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
106. I'm sorry that you can't take a woman seriously if she's showing her shoulders.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:13 PM
Oct 2017

Last I checked male reporters weren't going through nearly as much of the sexist shit that women on air are subjected to. And yes, I'd take Thomas Roberts in a tank top on Sunday in studio seriously as well.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
112. 1. Re :Roberts-- You might, but not without noting his shirt. Don't play. 2. I can make a
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:18 PM
Oct 2017

general observation while not revealing my own. I would take Ms. Witt seriously, because I am familiar with her work.

But do I think she goofed today? Hell, yes. It's plain WEIRD.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
116. And you are entitled to that opinion. I don't think she goofed and I find
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:20 PM
Oct 2017

the complaints on this thread over bare shoulders to be overblown.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
147. Its worse than overblown. Its absolute brain dead nonsense.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:17 PM
Oct 2017

Its seriously "get a fucking life" material.

A HERETIC I AM

(24,362 posts)
100. Ring....Ring...Yes, hello Zales Jewelers? I need 250 strings of pearls
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:08 PM
Oct 2017

As it would seem this thread is short of things to clutch”

Jesus H. Christ on a location shoot wearing taffeta and strappy sandals

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
101. What's up with all the slut shaming?
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:08 PM
Oct 2017

I'd expect this from the christian right exclaiming their horror at Michelle Obama's exposed shoulders...

What the hell?

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
128. Insult. If you start calling people Sad and Disingenuous w/ hashtags, don't
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:34 PM
Oct 2017

be mad when folks compare you to Twitler because that is what he does.

I'm sorry if bare shoulders on a Sunday morning has broke your puritanical little heart to the point that you feel the need to lash out at anyone not living in the 60s.

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
119. I don't know if you're a woman or ever had to wear professional attire...
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:25 PM
Oct 2017

... but if the answers are yes then you've been judged using all the same taglines you saw in this thread.

It's a crappy double standard.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
122. Yes. Teacher. Now, you were saying? Tell me, minus a wisecrack, that you would find that blouse
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:27 PM
Oct 2017

teacher-apropos.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
149. Yea and its superficial garbage with no value to it outside of nosey ass people whining about it.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:27 PM
Oct 2017

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
117. The last one I remember for Melania was wearing heels in a disaster zone...
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:22 PM
Oct 2017

That at least has some context and makes sense.

Right now everyone seems to have their plain white panties twisted over some exposed shoulders.

I'm grateful every day for the very little thought I have to put into my professional clothing. Suit, business casual (slacks w/ button shirt or a polo) or just my everyday Army Combat Uniform.

I've got 3 of each and can mix and match until the cows come home.

The women in my program have to have a full freakin' wardrobe and I'm sure they get the same dirty looks that folks are digitially passing along here.

Too short..

Too tight...

Is that a tanline I see?

Too loose...

Slut...

Battleaxe...

There's no winning and everyone should just keep their judgy bullshit to themselves until these ladies are showing up to work in bikinis.

 

phleshdef

(11,936 posts)
125. I love prudish American bullshit on a Sunday.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:28 PM
Oct 2017

I don't give a shit what people wear or don't wear. I don't objectify that kind of shit.

SaschaHM

(2,897 posts)
134. Check post #43 if you want the pic.
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:46 PM
Oct 2017

If you want the thread to make sense though, someone w/ photoshop is going to have to put her face on top of an exposed Playboy model

Response to RandySF (Reply #127)

Mira

(22,380 posts)
132. I will not read the other comments
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 04:41 PM
Oct 2017

so I'm not influenced. I saw it, and turned it off with the loud comment of: "that's what I call a fashion risk..."
I honestly don't like her show because, being a visually oriented human since birth, I don't like her hair because it is utterly incongruous with her face.
Call me shallow....

rocktivity

(44,572 posts)
143. Unfortunately, her hair is covering most of the dress' neckline, so it looks like a tube top
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:08 PM
Oct 2017

with matching tubes on her arms. The bare shoulders are completely inexcusable -- and that hairdo was borrowed from someone fifteen years younger. MSNBC's makeup department needs a makeover.



At any rate, this thread would not be complete without




rocktivity

CTyankee

(63,889 posts)
151. at last someone posted the pic of her...
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:29 PM
Oct 2017

While I don't like the look I don't particularly have an opinion whether it is "appropriate."

My response: big yawn...

seaglass

(8,171 posts)
144. Female News Personalities in Boston Say Theres A Push To Dress Sexier
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:09 PM
Oct 2017
http://www.adweek.com/tvspy/female-news-personalities-in-boston-say-theres-a-push-to-dress-sexier/193090

...

“What you don’t see on TV is that many times women have clothespins in the back to make [their clothes] tighter.”

Asked who is behind the pinning, she described it as a “self-reinforcing situation,” in which less prominent anchors, hoping to move up, emulate provocatively dressed anchors. “It’s a way of getting attention,” she said.

Almost no one in the business wants to go on the record to discuss what form the encouragement takes. They’re afraid of losing their jobs or ruining professional relationships.

But off the record, current and former female broadcasters in Boston tell stories about wardrobe consultants hired by station management pushing clothing that some on-air talent don’t want to wear; women crying in the makeup room because they feel pressured to dress a certain way; a modestly dressed anchor being asked to dress like a sexier new colleague who wore her skirts short and her tops unbuttoned.

RandySF

(58,488 posts)
154. She looks fine
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 05:45 PM
Oct 2017

She’s not naked. It’s Sunday on a holiday weekend. Warm day on the East Coast. What’s the big deal?

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
160. Let's start w/ I'm an old fart, but I am a hippie and
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 06:15 PM
Oct 2017

do not like shaming women or blaming them for their clothes. At the same time, I think there is professional dress an there is something else. If she chose the clothes, she needs to know she chose unwisely. If the clothes were forced upon her by TPTB, then we need to let them know they belong in Hell.

malaise

(268,693 posts)
167. She was just wearing the latest in fashion
Sun Oct 8, 2017, 08:06 PM
Oct 2017

I don't plan to wear it, but I don't get the question about the beach. What's wrong with bearing the top of her arms and her shoulders?

Pathwalker

(6,598 posts)
170. OMG! Kate Baldwin on CNN is showing CLEAVAGE! And worse,
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 11:53 AM
Oct 2017

she's wearing a sleeveless top - her entire arms are showing! Oh, the horror - where's my fainting couch?

BTW, the shoulder cut-out has been a fashion trend for a year now, Alex Witt has been wearing them for six months. It sure took you all a long time to notice.
Also, the female weather person on the Weather Channel has a shoulder cut-out top on too - is she a slut, too?

This thread reeks of sexist puritanism.

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