Why Trump is failing and will have to resign.

[Stuart G]

Last edited Sun Oct 8, 2017, 11:09 PM - Edit history (1)

Trump lies all the time. Good ideas and bad ideas are lies. He went after Corker and lied about it. What for? The guy is leaving. Oh he has got to get back at Corker. Why lie about it? This is a new game for Trump but he is losing, and he is losing by a HUGE!!!! margin...Part of the game is to tell the truth most of the time. Keep to a prepared script. Trump has his own script, he makes it up as he goes along. He is still angry at the mayor of Puerto Rico, and won't let that one go. That is his script.

He is down to 32 percent approval. That will get to 20. Why? We know why. He feels he needs to respond all the time when someone says anything nasty. All the time. Why? That is who he is. He doesn't represent me when he does that, but he represents himself. He has always done it this way. In private business, he could always declare bankruptcy, or he could work out a deal at one third the cost. He could hurt his adversaries with the deal. It was his way. He lied about the original deal to get a cheaper deal.

Trump can't do this in this position. He can try, but it won't work. His position is based on "integrity" but all his life he has played the game with no integrity. He has won some, and lost others. But he played that game.

Here he doesn't know the game. His sons do not know the game. The rules are different. The "truth" is the money in this game. Trump is already loosing. Will he change? Get better? Start playing by the rules?.

He has got to "want to change." You tell me. Does it look like he want to play by the "truth" rules?..We know the last president played by the rules. Each day Obama looks better and better because he is still a world leader and played by the rules and so does his family. Trump doesn't know the rules, and it appears he doesn't care. His subordinates do not play by the "truth rules." I am scared, and I hope he doesn't hurt the rest of us in this world. There are a lot of us in this world, and there is only one of him. Perhaps he should think about us for a change, and stop thinking about himself. I do not think that can happen, because Trump has his own rules and nobody is going to tell him how to play the game.

[lame54]

1. Believe it when i see it

[sandensea]

2. Frankly, I'd rather Cheeto stay on for the entirety of his (one) term.

A resignation will only leave us with Fetus Funeral Pence, who's even more extreme than his boss and just as complicit in Russiagate - and worst of all, knows how to appear sane (at least to the media).

The media, in fact, will jump at the opportunity to assure us all that "normalcy" has returned - which couldn't be further from the truth in a Pence regime.

[airplaneman]

9. I'm with you n/t.

[Ms. Toad]

13. But we might be alive at the end of the term,

and not in the middle of World War III.

[sandensea]

17. I might be wrong; but I find Pence just as likely to push us into WWIII as Cheetolini.

Besides being a Bircher (which Trump isn't - though he does love pandering to them) Pence is a known member of the ultra-theocratic 'Family' as well as of the Armageddon Lobby - the same one Bush and half his cabinet was reported to adhere to.

And if Pence, shortly after taking office, were to find himself in the same kind of political hot water his boss is in now (a real likelihood, given his Russiagate complicity), I for one wouldn't put it past him to push us into a war.

[Ms. Toad]

19. At the end of it, Pence is a seasoned politician

I have seen nothing to suggest that Pence is unable to restrain himself from taunting and pissing on an opponent. Trump, on the other hand, does that on a daily basis and is itching to use all of his nuclear toys.

[sandensea]

24. I hope you're right.

For better or worse, a Pence regime does seem to be in the cards (God help us all).

[rockfordfile]

23. No both need to be removed. Both are the same. Both are far-right Republicans

Trump is un-American.

[sandensea]

32. Your words to God's ear!

I was referring solely to Cheeto's possible resignation (an idea he himself is toying with, so they say).

Suffice it to say that if I could wave a magic wand, both those freaks would be in Ft. Leavenwoth by now - along with half of their cabinet, and the enterprising Chao clan.

[CanonRay]

26. Exactly right.

The media will give Pence instant normalcy. He is a radical Christian Dominionist. I'm thinking Chris Matthews and his ilk.

[sandensea]

34. Guaranteed - and you're right about Tweety.

It's been months since I've watched his program; but one of the things I always noticed about him is how deferential he usually is about Dense Pence, often saying things like "perhaps the ticket should have been the other way around," etc.

[MFM008]

30. No

Pence is bad but not the worst. He is typical republican fare, a no rock the boat
Im an 'establishment" republican.
Maggot is insane, and determined to take all of us ingrates out with him.
Hes a lunatic with a lunatic following.
How anyone can think he doesn't need to get out IMMEDIATELY is beyond me.

[Whiskeytide]

36. There are no "no rock the boat"...

... republicans anymore. They have now seen what they can do while not giving a shit about the boat at all. Pence will not slow down the destruction of our institutions one bit. But he will be able to do it with more efficiency and less blowback because of his perceived "normalcy".

Just ask yourself one question. Do you think Pence could have gotten The ACA repealed? I do. I think the republicans would have fallen in step for him, and he would have worked with McConnel and Ryan.

Trump is a lunatic. But he's dysfunctional as a president and as a leader of the Republican Party. He is damaging them. And he's not getting nearly as much done as the party would like. I don't like it. But I think the country is better off with Trump until - hopefully - we can regain at least the Senate in 2018.

[MFM008]

38. Problem

"The country is better off with ....."
No.
You can't compare the insanity.
The GOP wouldn't hesitate to act against
Him, there's no fear of troglodyte
Followers.
We would be spared the constant tweeting.
Maggot is WWW 3 waiting to happen.

[Whiskeytide]

39. There's that argument ...

... and I inderstand it. But there are a lot of things that have to happen before he can actually launch missiles. Our military is not quite at his beck and call the way he thinks. He can start a conflict, but Pence could quite easily do that as well.

But I get it. It is indeed sad that we are even having a discussion about which faction of the Republican Party is most/least likely to destroy the country or other parts of the world.

And the troglodytes will follow the R regardless of who's at the helm. What few they lose to purity they will more than make up for in getting back rank and file establishment republicans who think Pence is just another traditional R. All of my R friends and acquaintances are hoping Trump goes away and Pence takes over. They will vote for Pence in 2020. They won't vote for Trump. I think our chances in 2018 and 2020 are better the more Trump keeps screwing things up.

[JenniferJuniper]

3. I'm afraid we aren't to get out of it that easily

Something really terrible is going to happen first. Really terrible. You can feel it building more every day.

[WinkyDink]

4. Wishful thinking. Good thinking, but wishful thinking.

[bearsfootball516]

5. For his approval rating to reach 20 percent, something catastrophically bad would have to happen

His base is probably around 30 percent, and the only way they abandon ship is if something like the stock market crashes.

[Stuart G]

7. I hope that does not happen, but it could. I think his base is around 25 percent..

One in four, not one in three. His lies are just too much for a great majority of us to take. It goes against everything, yes everything we all know. Perhaps one in four will stick with this liar, but no more. ...
...Why?...When we raise our children, we tell them over and over again to tell the truth. I was told that and most of us are told that very early on. Obama got that. Trump got the opposite and almost "enjoys the lies".
It is absolutely necessary in business, but Trump got away with the opposite. So here we are. I just hope that the catastrophe does not happen. Yes it would be awful beyond words. So, in my mind, it would be worth being totally wrong (it would not be the first time I was wrong) on this, to avoid what you say would be "catastrophically bad." Our world does not need that now or in the future. We as a people, "the human race" has had enough. I sure hope this does not happen.

[rockfordfile]

22. That didn't happen to Nixon till he resigned

[fallout87]

6. Trump will

not resign. Please manage your expectations.

[marylandblue]

8. His base still loves this crap

They actually want a narcissistic asshole for president. As long as he gives them what they want, he will hang on unless forced out.

[Stuart G]

20. Correction made, sorry for spelling mistake

[longship]

21. Will self delete. nt

[crazycatlady]

11. I doubt he'll drop below 30 or so

That is his base and he could blow the head off a fetus with an AR-15 at a rally and they'd still love him.

[Mr.Bill]

14. All he would have to do

is to say the fetus was probably a muslim and would have grown up to be a terrorist. I'm totally serious.

[kairos12]

12. He will start a war before he has to leave.

[spiderpig]

15. He'll start a war because it's his ultimate toy.

Something's up when Hilary's issuing a statement about feeling responsible for this nut being in office.

[elmac]

16. I don't blame tRump

I blame all the dumbasses who voted for the prick, russian cyber war, fascists keeping people from voting and too much money in our election process.

[pangaia]

18. "Each day Obama looks better and better "

You know, I don't think that is necessarily true. Because, that means comparing him to The Fucking Moron.

It would be like comparing... the Norwegian Winter Olympic team with that of North Korea.

Obama has ALWAYS looked good because he always WAS and IS good.

[BigmanPigman]

25. He'll only go kicking and screaming and after he has

completely destroyed every Democrat and everything good that is America. He has Bannon's plan in mind...TOTAL chaos and destruction.

[L. Coyote]

27. Trump is only a few months behind Brazil's Temer.

Link to tweet

[mountain grammy]

28. I'm scared too

For all the things you said. He has his own rules and they're not in anybody's interests but his.

[malaise]

29. It was a really stupid lie about Corker

He's a lunatic who will not be criticized. He cannot help himself

https://splinternews.com/corkers-chief-of-staff-says-trump-offered-to-endorse-th-1819266638
<snip>
Turns out, that’s a big fat lie. Who could have guessed? In a statement obtained by the Daily Beast, Corker’s chief of staff Todd Womack completely contradicted the president’s claim:

“The president called Senator Corker on Monday afternoon and asked him to reconsider his decision not to seek reelection and reaffirmed that he would have endorsed him, as he has said many times,” Womack said.

Sure sounds like Trump was the one “begging” Corker to reconsider his decision and not the other way around. In any case, freed from the burden of a re-election campaign, Corker could clearly care less about the president’s opinion. Shortly after Trump posted his Sunday morning rant, Corker tweeted that it was a shame the White House had become “an adult day care center.”

Corker, it’s worth noting, was described by one of his Democratic colleagues, Senator Brian Schatz, as someone who “chooses his words carefully.”

[Sunlei]

31. He will never quit, he & the Republicans who attacked our Democracy will have to be removed.

As MLK said, "everything hitler did was legal"

[milestogo]

33. He's a malignant narcissist. He will not resign under any circumstances.

There is nothing in his history that shows him behaving in that way.

[Stuart G]

35. I think he will resign, at last minute as it becomes clear his family will be indicted.

He will be told he "must resign" to save his sons. Trump really doesn't know the game. We went from playing in some high school baseball games,(local) up to the majors and playing in the world series. All in a few months. In order to do something like this, you got to be really sharp and focused on the play. Lincoln did it, and so did Eisenhower, (although Eisenhower was playing in a very, very rough minor league) But he had little background in U.S politics. He did ok. (he had some world class partners in those minor leagues)

Trump does not have "high quality partners now" He doesn't know. He doesn't care. It is all about him. It is like taking a local community playhouse, yea, they got some experience, a little, and placing this group of locals and their "play" right in the middle of "Broadway" with the harshest critics in the world. And some outstanding competition, the very best in the world.

You got to be focused on the game. You must work extra hours learning the rules and changing your play to the new situation. Forget the small s**t. This is the world stage. Arguing with the mayor of Puerto Rico is insane.
How important is a "flag controversy" in the course of world events? Trump has lost already. This is what I think. In order to revive his game, he has got to want to change his game and how he plays. I am not even sure that he realizes he is in the "major leagues" let alone the "world series".

[milestogo]

37. He still thinks he can pardon everyone, including himself.

He really doesn't understand the dynamics of what's going on.