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applegrove

(118,577 posts)
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 02:42 AM Oct 2017

Economic cannibalism - Opinion

By Robert J. Samuelson at the Washington Post

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/our-economic-cannibalism/2017/10/08/9a7de5a4-aab0-11e7-850e-2bdd1236be5d_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_opinion-card-c%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.d0fc01d96111

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The “spoils society” is a phrase I coined some years ago to illustrate a basic problem of wealthy societies, including, of course, the United States. After all, our annual gross domestic product is approaching $20 trillion. The problem is that, as societies become richer, so does the temptation for people to advance their economic interests by grabbing someone else’s wealth, as opposed to creating wealth.

We see the resulting redistributive struggles all the time. They’re part of the social fabric: divorcing couples fighting over the marital assets; Congress debating who should — or shouldn’t — get tax cuts or subsidies (say, Social Security); lawyers launching “class action” suits to remedy alleged wrongs;patent “trolls” suing tech companies over possible infringement issues.

Regardless of where your sympathies lie — redistribution is both good and bad — what connects all these activities and many others is that they don’t result in the production of goods and services. Instead, they involve the shifting of money and wealth from one party or group to another. They recall the spirit of 19th-century politicians’ defense of patronage jobs: “To the victors belong the spoils.”

This sort of economy may be larger than you think. That’s the gist of the provocative new book “The Captured Economy” by Brink Lindsey of the Niskanen Center think tank and Steven M. Teles, a political scientist at Johns Hopkins University. They argue that the economy is riddled with self-serving arrangements, mainly benefiting the rich, that impose excess costs on the poor and middle class and reduce economic growth.

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Economic cannibalism - Opinion (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2017 OP
Without this we could probably double economic growth Cicada Oct 2017 #1
If you go too far in undoing zoning you end up with Houston and applegrove Oct 2017 #2
Yes. Texas too little, California too much Cicada Oct 2017 #3

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
1. Without this we could probably double economic growth
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 05:53 AM
Oct 2017

I saw one study which concluded restrictive zoning alone reduces economic growth from 3% to 2%. There are a ton of jobs which could be created in San Francisco, Silicon Valley, if more people could live there.

applegrove

(118,577 posts)
2. If you go too far in undoing zoning you end up with Houston and
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 06:17 AM
Oct 2017

all the flooding after a hurricane. There has to be a happy medium.

Cicada

(4,533 posts)
3. Yes. Texas too little, California too much
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 03:13 PM
Oct 2017

San Francisco creates absurdly small number of new residences each year. That is a transfer of wealth from those who do not own a residence to those who do. We need to change that. That is not only transferring wealth from poor to rich but is also putting brakes on economic growth.

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