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In light of the present controversy over Columbus Day, I think it is important to note that Europeans weren't the only violent people in the world during the period. On Aztec human sacrifices:
https://qz.com/374994/aztec-sacrifice-was-real-and-its-not-fetishistic-to-be-fascinated
There is an unfortunate tendency among some liberals to concentrate solely on atrocities committed by Europeans while ignoring the sometimes unpleasant historical evidence about non-European societies. The tendency sometimes goes so far as to paint non-Europeans as living in Edenic harmony with each other and nature until the evil Europeans showed up and made a mess of things. This itself can be seen as a racist trope, that of the "noble savage" untouched by the evils of modern Western civilization. It denies the reality and complexity of non-European societies.
Please note that I am NOT making excuses for the many atrocities and injustices committed by European colonialists, just that there is a very strong tendency on the part of some people on the left to have a biased and selective view of history.
Now you've gone and ruined Montezuma Day for me!
demmiblue
(36,838 posts)murielm99
(30,733 posts)It is time to argue about Halloween and the sinfulness connected with it.
And it is never too early to gear up for the War on Christmas.
dawg
(10,624 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)Kingofalldems
(38,444 posts)dawg
(10,624 posts)At least until the party pooper OP ruined it for me.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)What are you trying to say? Could you provide examples of "some liberals" who ignore historical evidence of non-European societies, or who deny the reality and complexity of non-European societies?
Blues Heron
(5,931 posts)WhiskeyGrinder
(22,318 posts)ExciteBike66
(2,326 posts)We do not have an "Aztec Day" in this country, so their atrocities really don't matter.
brooklynite
(94,493 posts)Indigenous People do not have clean hands either.
ExciteBike66
(2,326 posts)my problem is that Columbus took people as slaves, and that we should not honor this man with a national holiday.
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stonecutter357
(12,695 posts)delisen
(6,042 posts)cultures around the world .
England got a comparative advantage of technology at one point and ushered in the period of European colonialism.
Other cultures could well have gotten that comparative advantage and done the same thing.
The Scandinavians behaved badly for a couple of centuries and then seemed to have settled down to tend their own gardens (ala Voltaire). Maybe there is hope for all of us.
There are so many fascinating things we could all be doing and learning. When will we get beyond this era and onto the interesting and useful stuff?
TheFrenchRazor
(2,116 posts)anybody any favors to pretend that only the misdeeds of columbus (europeans) matter. we shouldn't turn EITHER ONE of them into heroes. they both had their good sides and their bad sides.
tenderfoot
(8,425 posts)but the Europeans were finer people.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)You'll never get a proper history lesson that way.
linuxman
(2,337 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)I always remember it's not accurate chronologically. Still, I wonder if the sacrifices really looked like that.
HAB911
(8,880 posts)can't you all see?
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)Europeans committed genocide on a massive scale in the Americas. The Aztecs did not.