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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsESPN suspends Jemele Hill for 2 weeks for voicing her opinion
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So, Don the Con can voice an opinion that the NFL owners fire their players for taking a knee. But, Jemele Hill can't voice an opinion about boycotting advertisers. My, oh, my, American democracy and 1st Amendment rights and going down the toilet
Botany
(70,490 posts)Although urging a boycott of Dallas Cowboy's advertisers wasn't a smart thing to do ....
the NFL and ESPN is all about money
iluvtennis
(19,849 posts)...when the owners start losing money, they'll gladly let the players take a knee in silent protests.
Can you imagine the players going on strike and the owners having to return $ to the season ticket holders and then the other tickets not being able to be sold, no TV, no concessions, no parking, no arena staff workers, etc, etc. Thre would be BIG economic impacts if the players did a walk out.
BTW, the NFL is big $$. It's been 3/4 years since I last went to a game. We spent over $700 for a family of 4 to go see the Raiders between, the tickets ($600), parking ($35), food & drinks ($75/$100), souvenirs ($50). They make BIH MONEY in the NFL/other team sports.
LonePirate
(13,417 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)https://www.nytimes.com/2016/04/21/sports/baseball/curt-schilling-is-fired-by-espn.html
iluvtennis
(19,849 posts)To that, Schilling added: A man is a man no matter what they call themselves. I dont care what they are, who they sleep with, mens room was designed for the penis, womens not so much. Now you need laws telling us differently? Pathetic.
Had he just voiced opinion about laws on restrooms, I would be supportive of him.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I don't know if ESPN has a policy about political comments - doesn't seem like they do, generally.
PdxSean
(574 posts)A memo which ESPN claims was circulated in early January 2016 requires employees to refrain from political editorializing, personal attacks or drive-by comments regarding the candidates and their campaigns (including but not limited to on platforms such as Twitter or other social media). Mike Ditka was dinged by the same policy.
https://deadspin.com/leaked-memo-espn-urges-talent-to-avoid-political-comme-1754118407
rockfordfile
(8,702 posts)snooper2
(30,151 posts)rockfordfile
(8,702 posts)Response to rockfordfile (Reply #10)
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cwydro
(51,308 posts)And wrong.
SaschaHM
(2,897 posts)if fans didn't like what Jerry Jones was doing (mandatory flag humping), they could boycott his advertisers which given the political climate around NFL boycotts (i.e. the President and the Republicans calling for one) seems like a pretty factual statement for a sports journalist to make. Heck, her comments were in response to people suggesting that the onus of response to JJ was on the players and that they could make a difference.
It be like Rachel Maddow getting suspended for saying that instead of people forcing the workers at a company to take on an unpopular corporate position, they could make a difference by boycotting it's advertisers.
If anything, Jemele being suspended is going to bring about a firestorm that not only engulfs the Cowboys, but ESPN as well.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)just not watching the network will not do anything at all.
IF anyone knows how to actually let them know they made a horrible decision by doing this, please post it.
PdxSean
(574 posts)I'm not a sports fan, so I don't watch ESPN. However, I can totally appreciate that the policy appears to be applied crossed the board.
Re ESPN's policy on public political statements by their tv personalities: https://deadspin.com/leaked-memo-espn-urges-talent-to-avoid-political-comme-1754118407
Captain Stern
(2,201 posts)The first amendment protects her from the government restricting her right to voice her opinion. The first amendment doesn't guarantee her a job at ESPN.
iluvtennis
(19,849 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)Which only protects you from the GOVERNMENT. There is zero protection from your employer. Nobody is guaranteed a job.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Just a couple of weeks ago it was Trump who was calling for a national boycott of the NFL, and now when Hill does it she's persona non grata?
Orrex
(63,203 posts)If part of Hill's contract spells out acceptable use of social media, then she's kind of stuck with the consequences. In this age, I can't imagine that a media figure's contract wouldn't include such provisions.
Trump has enjoyed a lifetime of zero consequences. In a just world, we'd get to see someone shit on his face five times a day.