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CNN Headline News: Path to WWIII (Original Post) sheshe2 Oct 2017 OP
Fuck these cretins. spanone Oct 2017 #1
I envision the scene from the Dead Zone, just before the launch. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #2
this stuff is so damned scary. spanone Oct 2017 #3
I know.... sheshe2 Oct 2017 #6
Prayers for everyone on the West Coast. OldHippieChick Oct 2017 #4
I'm not sure if anyone has pointed this out already on DU NCDem47 Oct 2017 #7
These guys say NK can hit NYC bathroommonkey76 Oct 2017 #24
Population centers are Democratic strongholds. BadgerMom Oct 2017 #29
"World War" potentially means more than just the West Coast of US gets attacked Tankman Oct 2017 #11
Something has to give. MontanaMama Oct 2017 #5
Those motherfuckers want war so badly they'll kill us all to get it. Initech Oct 2017 #14
I hope they have a snappy logo and appropriate music gratuitous Oct 2017 #8
Sad to say we are on that path. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #12
Quoting Mattis without saying this is frickin' nuts is normalizing it gratuitous Oct 2017 #17
It was a quote that came with their news story. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #18
Yes, my posts were all about you gratuitous Oct 2017 #19
Stop attacking the messanger...me. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #20
Mattis tells Army to "be ready" on North Korea military options bathroommonkey76 Oct 2017 #25
Thank you for this. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #27
It shouldn't matter how much Agent Orange liberalhistorian Oct 2017 #21
He will not get bdamomma Oct 2017 #28
Stand ??? C_U_L8R Oct 2017 #9
NPR show had a piece on Hiroshima delisen Oct 2017 #10
Thanks for sharing that information - I certainly didn't know. Rhiannon12866 Oct 2017 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Oct 2017 #13
If Congress doesn't stand up now MontanaMama Oct 2017 #15
Dear Robert Mueller maryellen99 Oct 2017 #16
Mattis bdamomma Oct 2017 #23
Sadly? He won't. sheshe2 Oct 2017 #26
Get ready for 24/7 war porn. sarcasmo Oct 2017 #30

sheshe2

(83,721 posts)
2. I envision the scene from the Dead Zone, just before the launch.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 05:12 PM
Oct 2017

A maniac in charge...the launch...then pronounces it to be his destiny.

The Missiles are Flying.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
4. Prayers for everyone on the West Coast.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 05:15 PM
Oct 2017

I know that's akin to "thoughts and prayers", but it's all I can do right now.

NCDem47

(2,248 posts)
7. I'm not sure if anyone has pointed this out already on DU
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 05:31 PM
Oct 2017

But if NK wants to nuke the U.S and barely has the range to reach the west coast, what does Moron loose as Washington, Oregon, California and Hawaii have all gone Democratic in the last five presidential elections! Sure, wipe out some democrats. But don't mess with Alaska though!!

BadgerMom

(2,770 posts)
29. Population centers are Democratic strongholds.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 10:49 PM
Oct 2017

Neither Republicans nor Putin’s Russia like anything about us. Putin and Bannon get chaos. Trump gets his electoral college win and revenge on those who oppose him. Being in California, I’ve thought about this. It’s the first time I’ve had to realize that my country doesn’t value me one iota because I didn’t vote for the sitting president.

Tankman

(6 posts)
11. "World War" potentially means more than just the West Coast of US gets attacked
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 05:49 PM
Oct 2017

If China joins in, we are all going to need those "thoughts and prayers".

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. I hope they have a snappy logo and appropriate music
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 05:34 PM
Oct 2017

I mean, as long as the popular media are working so hard to normalize the unthinkable, they should have some good graphics and groovy tunes.

sheshe2

(83,721 posts)
12. Sad to say we are on that path.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 05:51 PM
Oct 2017

I don't see where they are normalizing this. The quote is from Mattis. Donnie, quoted before his Generals saying this is "The Calm Before the Storm." The president wants this.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
17. Quoting Mattis without saying this is frickin' nuts is normalizing it
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 06:14 PM
Oct 2017

In fact, it's a complete abandonment of the responsibility a news outlet has. I'm uninterested in any mewling about "objectivity" when we're talking about a course of events whose easily foreseeable end result is the extermination of millions and a wholesale poisoning of the planet.

sheshe2

(83,721 posts)
18. It was a quote that came with their news story.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 06:27 PM
Oct 2017

It flashed on the page for a moment. I was not here to see the rest of the broadcast. I did NOT see all they had to say anymore than you did. Please stop attacking me, stop taking your anger out on me. WE are all upset with the possibility that life as we knew it is may well be gone, our survival is questionable.

sheshe2

(83,721 posts)
20. Stop attacking the messanger...me.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 06:39 PM
Oct 2017

Get some context on what CNN said about Mattis before you talk about normalization by the media. I never saw the report on what they said, I had left the room. Please give me some context to what they said since you obviously saw it to speak in detail. I hate them for giving us Trump and YES they normalized him then. I will never forgive them or those that voted for trump and third party...because it was obvious then...anyone was better than Hillary....wrong!

 

bathroommonkey76

(3,827 posts)
25. Mattis tells Army to "be ready" on North Korea military options
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 09:57 PM
Oct 2017

Defense Secretary James Mattis says the U.S. Army "must stand ready" in the face of continued provocations by the North Korean regime.

While delivering the keynote address at the Association of the U.S. Army's annual meeting on Monday, Mattis outlined the current strategy in North Korea for the U.S. military, saying "it is right now diplomatically led, economic sanctioned, buttressed effort to try to turn North Korea off its path."

He conceded, however, that "neither you nor I can say" what the future holds for the regime.

"There's one thing the U.S. Army can do, and that is you have got to be ready to ensure that we have military options that our president can employ if needed," said Mattis.

Mattis embraced the current diplomatic approach to the crisis, including the UN-led sanctions on the regime supported by the international community.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mattis-tells-army-to-be-ready-on-north-korea-military-options/

liberalhistorian

(20,815 posts)
21. It shouldn't matter how much Agent Orange
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 07:14 PM
Oct 2017

"wants" this, there should be cooler heads prevailing in the military; Kelly, Mattis and the like. This is not a dictatorship and the military does and should have a say. And what few at least somewhat reasonable repubs are left, (McCain, Corker, and their ilk) should be scrambling to shut him down and stop this shit. As in joining with the military honchos and declaring Article 25. Seriously.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
28. He will not get
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 10:06 PM
Oct 2017

his hard on by starting a war, no fucking stupid arrogant man is going to take us down.

delisen

(6,042 posts)
10. NPR show had a piece on Hiroshima
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 05:44 PM
Oct 2017

I had always though that Truman had made an informed decision to drop the atom bomb on Hiroshima and then Nagasaki, that he was the person in control.

As vp he did not have information he probably should have had to be prepared to be president on Day One. As president Truman had a learning curve. He trusted the military-they had successfully waged war.

Truman did not know the the bomb to be dropped was so massively different that it could obliterate a city and its civilian population. The target, Hiroshima, was described to him as a military base (there was a base in Hiroshima).

The generals knew what would likely happen to the civilian population. According to the NPR piece Truman did prevent a third bombing. He publicly took responsibility but the public narrative was a kind of coverup. A false history.

If what was reported is true, it raises questions about our current situation vis a vis N Korea and the power of the military players in the current administration.

The show also detailed the story of a whistleblower in the military who question the power of presidents to be the sole decision maker on on a nuclear attack-and was punished for his hubris in questioning the powers that be.

We are in our current situation because facts have been withheld from us and because, although we have a democratic republic, we do not have the power as "the people" that we need.

In short, we need more democracy and less republic, and we can't have democracy with information-the actual facts, not the fake.





Rhiannon12866

(205,113 posts)
22. Thanks for sharing that information - I certainly didn't know.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 09:39 PM
Oct 2017

And it certainly doesn't help that we have the most ill informed POTUS in our history - and I'm counting even before we had modern communication.

Response to sheshe2 (Original post)

maryellen99

(3,788 posts)
16. Dear Robert Mueller
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 06:09 PM
Oct 2017

Dear Robert Mueller,
Donald Trump is planning to use Nuclear Weapons
Please Hurry

Signed,
Humanity

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
23. Mattis
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 09:51 PM
Oct 2017

why won't you say Stand down to Trump, what a fucking sick ass man.

tRump needs to be bodily removed he should be held for endangering lives here and in Puerto Rico.

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