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adigal

(7,581 posts)
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 06:42 PM Oct 2017

Here it is....just heard it..."so would an ICBM hitting Los Angeles"

"We dont want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud over one of our cities."

On CNN, just heard a military member say this after saying that hitting Nirth Korea would be a mess. But so would "an ICBM hitting Los angelas.

The march to war is on. The propaganda has begun. Let's not let these warmongers trick us into war again.

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Here it is....just heard it..."so would an ICBM hitting Los Angeles" (Original Post) adigal Oct 2017 OP
An ICBM hitting SF or LA lapfog_1 Oct 2017 #1
No surprises there. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #2
That's funny, I just said out loud to my dog while driving in CA BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #10
Bannon hates liberals period bdamomma Oct 2017 #13
I saw some fucking assholes cheering on the fires on Twitter. Initech Oct 2017 #19
"We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud." Dick Cheney, Jan 10, 2003 procon Oct 2017 #3
Let's remind them that we've heard this shit before. Ilsa Oct 2017 #4
Youre too late. Glassunion Oct 2017 #5
"The avalanche has already started. It is too late for the pebbles to vote." From Babylon 5 SharonAnn Oct 2017 #11
Yup. We can refuse to pay our taxes. Let them try to make the govt work without Dems' taxes adigal Oct 2017 #24
Now where have I heard that before? Iggo Oct 2017 #6
If north Korea attacks a U.S. city, it will not be an ICBM ThoughtCriminal Oct 2017 #7
Do you study NK like these guys? bathroommonkey76 Oct 2017 #15
Probably. ThoughtCriminal Oct 2017 #16
Yep- Do you? bathroommonkey76 Oct 2017 #17
Possibly, but their detective work seems sloppy ThoughtCriminal Oct 2017 #18
The real worry is China, not NK. Kentonio Oct 2017 #21
Seattle's the closest major mainland city to NK Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2017 #8
Why would the North Koreans launch a nuclear missile at us? Nevernose Oct 2017 #9
BECAUSE EVIL!!!! EEEEEVIL! Orrex Oct 2017 #22
I've never seen people want an attack on our country so badly IronLionZion Oct 2017 #12
anyone watching Lawrence O'Donnell??? bdamomma Oct 2017 #14
I'm terrified. raven mad Oct 2017 #20
Fortunately, the Salesman-in-Chief is a demented clown. Orsino Oct 2017 #23

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
1. An ICBM hitting SF or LA
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 06:49 PM
Oct 2017

is steve bannon and his ilk's wet dream

i cant tell you the hatred that many deplorables have for CA.

Just having a CA license plate on my car in some rural areas of AZ has gotten my tires slashed and various people making threats or rolling their eyes at me

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
2. No surprises there.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 06:58 PM
Oct 2017

By being a patriotic American who respects all equally, you become the antithesis of what they believe.

It really is all about skin color and religion, women being unequal, etc.

BigmanPigman

(51,583 posts)
10. That's funny, I just said out loud to my dog while driving in CA
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 09:07 PM
Oct 2017

and was waiting behind a gigantic vehicle taking up two spaces to go back to AZ when I saw their plates.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
13. Bannon hates liberals period
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 10:25 PM
Oct 2017

especially California. We are dealing with some real mental cases round them up please.....sigh

Initech

(100,060 posts)
19. I saw some fucking assholes cheering on the fires on Twitter.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 11:35 PM
Oct 2017

My hate for these people knows no boundaries.

procon

(15,805 posts)
3. "We don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud." Dick Cheney, Jan 10, 2003
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 07:34 PM
Oct 2017

Iraq War began March 20, 2003.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
5. Youre too late.
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 08:13 PM
Oct 2017

“Let's not let these warmongers trick us into war again.”

Too late for that, the war has already started. The pieces are already in place, just waiting for the game to start. War is profitable, and it simply makes good economical sense (for a select few) to have one. We haven’t started a war in a few years, and are more than overdue. I’ll wage a bet that we’ll have a draft for this one. Do you honestly think that there is anything you or I could do to stop it?

 

adigal

(7,581 posts)
24. Yup. We can refuse to pay our taxes. Let them try to make the govt work without Dems' taxes
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 04:25 PM
Oct 2017

And what, they going to jail all of us?? Not enough room.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
7. If north Korea attacks a U.S. city, it will not be an ICBM
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 08:35 PM
Oct 2017

It will be delivered in a jumbo shipping container - and even the largest may be too small.

I have very strong doubts that they have a nuclear device of any yield that would even fit in a large truck.

ThoughtCriminal

(14,047 posts)
18. Possibly, but their detective work seems sloppy
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 11:19 PM
Oct 2017

But I have not looked at their analysis in detail. Let me give you an example from the video.

At around 3:40+ they begin to talk about the apparent weight of missile based on NK video of the missile being lifted by a crane purchased from Japan. Because of where the center of gravity is located, they note that the missile must be quite light, and conclude that it was produced using highly advanced materials and construction techniques. That is just one of the possibilities. The other, more likely explanation is that the missile in the video is a hollow shell mock-up. There are similar problems with drawing conclusions from pictures of horizontal fueling, the alleged small thermonuclear warhead that nobody has inspected, etc...

Kim clearly wants the world to believe that he has deliverable fission and even fusion warheads, but barring close inspection from an international team, there is every reason to believe that like most NK propaganda, it is largely fake. That would not mean that they are not dangerous, only that they cannot be delivered by aircraft or missile.

North Korea definitely has constructed and detonated nuclear devices, but it is quite likely that these were primitive and massive. They have also launched a few long-range missiles - with a very high failure rate and questionable payload capability.

 

Kentonio

(4,377 posts)
21. The real worry is China, not NK.
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 08:17 AM
Oct 2017

China, who it should be remembered have already pledged to defend NK against any first strike by the US.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
9. Why would the North Koreans launch a nuclear missile at us?
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 08:48 PM
Oct 2017

At least without having been seriously attacked first?

Nobody seems to be able to answer this question, at least not rationally.
It also seems like >50% of what people “know” about North Korea is clearly South Korean propaganda. Treating the citizens like shit? Probably true. Almost certainly, in fact. I’m sure as shit not going there anytime soon. Feeding his uncle to wild dogs? Killing him with antiaircraft guns? Obvious bullshit. I’ve been hearing obvious bullshit about the North Koreans my entire life. The North Koreans claim to have unicorns, Kim Jung Un claims to have hit 18 holes in one his first time playing, KJU killed an entire K-Pop band for fun...

Our government lies just as much as theirs does. Ours is just more subtle about it.

Orrex

(63,199 posts)
22. BECAUSE EVIL!!!! EEEEEVIL!
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 08:25 AM
Oct 2017

Also, North Koreans are conveniently non-white, so do we really need a reason to pretend that they want to attack us?

WAR! WAR! WAR!

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
14. anyone watching Lawrence O'Donnell???
Mon Oct 9, 2017, 10:29 PM
Oct 2017

they are talking all about this. How to contain this sick ass man. tRump better shut his fucking mouth.

tRump is totally unhinged, the 25th is warranted to save millions of lives.

raven mad

(4,940 posts)
20. I'm terrified.
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 08:03 AM
Oct 2017

Central Alaska with a LOT of military, already gearing up. Direct in the strike path. Already locked and loaded, and believe me not one of the young men and women want it.

Except sTrumpet.

Orsino

(37,428 posts)
23. Fortunately, the Salesman-in-Chief is a demented clown.
Tue Oct 10, 2017, 09:20 AM
Oct 2017

The march is more a sort of grab-ass parade.

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