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NewsCenter28

(1,835 posts)
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 06:22 PM Oct 2017

So lets say Economist poll is right and we win the house popular by 7 points in 18

That’s enough, for us to obtain the house majority right if the final results look like that in ‘18? We gained it in 2006 with a 5 point margin I believe.

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So lets say Economist poll is right and we win the house popular by 7 points in 18 (Original Post) NewsCenter28 Oct 2017 OP
The House is gerrymandered but a seven point lead should do the trick. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #1
Not necessarily. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #2
If we win the generic ballot by seven points it is more likely than not we win the House. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #4
The generic ballot isn't that useful. PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #7
Which scenario is more likely DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #8
You said it! PoindexterOglethorpe Oct 2017 #9
Wish we had Howard Dean as Party Chair. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ pangaia Oct 2017 #6
Don't look at me caraher Oct 2017 #3
Me too. moose65 Oct 2017 #5

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,851 posts)
2. Not necessarily.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 06:48 PM
Oct 2017

We could win huge in strongly Democratic districts, and just barely lose in Republican ones, have at least that much of an overall lead, but it would mean squat. It's district by district.

It's why Hillary isn't President. Not the right votes in the right places.

We have to be very smart and savvy about next year's election.

Wish we had Howard Dean as Party Chair.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
4. If we win the generic ballot by seven points it is more likely than not we win the House.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 06:53 PM
Oct 2017

That, of course, is different than saying it's a lead pipe cinch.


You also have to factor in Hillary won the pop vote in 24 Congressional districts that voted for a Republican to represent them. If you add up the districts that Trump won by ten points or less it's damn near one hundred.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,851 posts)
7. The generic ballot isn't that useful.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 07:23 PM
Oct 2017

If we had a parliamentary system it would be, but we have all of these separate districts.

And again, if we win by huge margins in Democratic districts and just barely lose in the many gerrymandered Republican ones, we won't regain the House. The House needs to be fought for district by district. And while we don't want to blow off even the safest Democratic District, we don't want to be focussing to tightly on the safe ones. Likewise, we can't blow off the safe Republican Districts. It's when no one runs against an incumbent that we lose twice. By just letting them have that seat the party looks ineffectual, and local voters don't understand that there are actual Democrats out there they might be voting for if they only had the chance.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. Which scenario is more likely
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 07:34 PM
Oct 2017

Scenario One- We win the generic ballot by seven points and fail to regain the House.

Scenario Two- We win the generic ballot by seven points and fail to regain the House.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
6. Wish we had Howard Dean as Party Chair. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 07:17 PM
Oct 2017

I wish we had had him as president back then....












caraher

(6,278 posts)
3. Don't look at me
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 06:50 PM
Oct 2017

I thought we'd take the Senate last fall.

The House is an even tougher nut thanks to the gerrymander

moose65

(3,166 posts)
5. Me too.
Wed Oct 11, 2017, 06:55 PM
Oct 2017

It hurts me that Feingold isn't back in the Senate. I was hoping that he and Bayh and the lady in PA. would win, so we'd have a 51-49 majority. What could have been....

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