seems to me the cabinet could insist cheato have a physical to prove his is fit.

[mopinko]

including a full psyche eval, and mri of his head.

doesnt that serve both sides? the dark side should want to shove it in our faces IF he passes. not that that is at all likely.

drag his ass over to walter reed, now.

[Sneederbunk]

1. A checkup from the neck up.

[PJMcK]

2. Nah, the full monty

Prove that he lied about his weight, height and general health.

Oh, and about those income tax returns...

[saidsimplesimon]

4. Chuckle

It is "down under" that don worries about.

[atreides1]

3. Which cabinet is that?

You can't mean the religious nuts, liars, thieves and sell outs, that he appointed to positions in his administration?

[mopinko]

5. i mean the ones leaking to the press.

the ones who have their hair on fire over who has the football. those are white house leaks, and i think they are coming from the top.

[Siwsan]

6. Is that whole yearly physical thing voluntary? Seems we've always gotten reports on the past POTUSs

It should, by ALL means, be mandatory, and it should not be conducted by his own, personal Dr. Feelgood.

I don't give a damn about any of his other internal organs - we need to know what's going on with his brain/cognitive abilities.

[mopinko]

7. it is voluntary, but traditional.

i remember as far back as st ronnie getting it and releasing the results. i could be wrong.

kelly could demand it as a condition of staying on in HIS job.

[Siwsan]

8. Oh great. Now I'm even MORE terrified.

[WinkyDink]

11. Ah, so you CAN use capital letters.....

[mopinko]

28. oh, cuz that has anything to do w what i have to say.

when that crack comes out, i know just where YOU are coming from.

[Grammy23]

14. What internal organs would that be?

From what can be determined, tRump is a hollow shell of a man. A giant, gaping black hole that never ever gets filled up or closes. Hence, his insatiable need for attention, cheers and some love. Anything less is defined as disrespect to him. I suspect there has been a lot of bowing and scraping going on in the White House and some of the current employees are getting tired of it. Especially since inspite of their best efforts there is nothing to show for it. I bet if you walked up to tRump and shouted at his belly, it would echo.

[Siwsan]

19. Good point. We know he doesn't have a heart.

And I've long suspected that his brain resembles a chunk of moldy swiss cheese.

[Grammy23]

22. Whatever he has for brains

Was scrambled long ago.

[Javaman]

9. the orange asshole would fire all of them if there was even a hint of this happening. nt

[WinkyDink]

10. Often, "seems to me" collides with "reality" and "facts." Sorry.

[mopinko]

16. again, top people are leaking their fears to the media.

this is not an accident.

[Vinca]

12. Trump enablers would write the medical report and pay Dr. Feelgood to sign it.

[janterry]

13. This is a slippery slope

A psych would be highly subjective. They'd dx him with a personality dx - sure. But does that make him unfit?

It makes him an egomaniac - but lots leaders have a similar pathology. He's impulsive? Okay..........does that make him unfit? No, it doesn't.
His IQ is probably low-average. Does that make him unfit? Well, no.

A neuropsych. eval would include a lot of tests, but at the crux of it - he's unfit because we can see that he's unable to function at a level required by his position (okay, required by most positions). This puts it in the realm of his cabinet or with congress. Not a psychiatrist.

I just don't see that a psychiatrist would be able to make this determination. It is within their realm of expertise to make a ruling on competency - but I'm sorry to say: he is competent. In a legal sense, that bar is really, really low (do you know that your lawyer is here to help you? Yes, sir. My lawyer is on my side - those are competency eval questions. I've seen folks with exceptionally low IQ's and schizophrenia pass a competency eval).

The only hope, imo, is that his IQ really has gone down the toilet - and he tests developmentally delayed. Then the psychiatrist would rule unfit. Otherwise.............

[mopinko]

15. a neuro psyche eval includes neuro. not opinion based.

and an mri would be beyond dispute.

if you have ever taken one you know that it includes a lot of tests of memory and vocabulary. those would be unmistakably bad.

[janterry]

21. I've read hundreds of neuro psych reports over the years

It's not in my field of practice to do one (I have a master's in social work), but I've ordered them for my clients and worked with the doctors that conducted them.

A great deal of the report is based on a clinical interview and the patients history. It's highly subjective. Some of the psychometric tests probably seem very quantitative (to some degree they are) - but the way the report is constructed is a whole different matter. Psychiatrists and psychologists know this.

The thing that would not be subjective is if there is a real medical condition (one that you can test for w/MRI). Then you are right: the results are unmistakable. That's why I also said IQ testing. (Also quantifiable).

[niyad]

17. you mean the craven enablers and pucker-ups? don't hold your breath.

[mopinko]

18. i'm def not holding my breath.

but these leaks are not an accident.

kelly could demand it, under threat of quitting. the rest of the cabinet would almost have to go along. none of them want to see kelly go.

[niyad]

20. I think you are giving most of the cabinet members far more credit than they deserve.

perry? devos? cho? etc.

[mopinko]

23. meh. they can be threatened.

this isnt impeachment, or even invoking the 25th. just setting the stage. and the true believers will be convince he could pass, and they think that will end the debate.

one thing we know about these people is that they are cold, calculating assholes. kelly could make them an offer they can refuse. if he wanted to. i think he is the lynchpin.

[niyad]

24. I would like to hope that you are correct. this nightmare cannot continue.

[Turbineguy]

25. Yes, after

they find a Doctor who will certify him as fit.

[mopinko]

26. as long as the mri gets out, it wont matter.

i have little doubt that the holes in his brains will be obvious to anyone w eyes.

[Turbineguy]

30. This is a test where they

give the answers first and then write the questions.

[mopinko]

31. well, they can prolly fill in the mri film w a sharpie, but i dont think

that will work out well for them.

[left-of-center2012]

27. Need I say more?

[mopinko]

29. i said walter reed.

even if the mri isnt made public, i believe it will be so bad that when the cabinets sees it, they will have no doubts to hide behind.

eta- at reed, they have protocols for measuring fitness for command. it's a thing there.

[Gothmog]

32. With a real doctor