Chains around the neck new style for women?

[marybourg]

Is this the Handmaid look? Just saw a women commentator on CNN with a fairly beefy (not jewelry appearing) steel chain with some sort of block ( lock?) in front, around her neck. Is this a signaling device? "I'm not a feminist "? "I'm femacho". So happy I see TV only in passing.

[Orrex]

1. Link?

[marybourg]

3. To a TV segment

shown about 90 min ago? Above my technical competence.

On edit: Oh, was that a pun? Missed it!

[Orrex]

8. :evilgrin:

[marybourg]

17. It went right over my head.

So there!

[tammywammy]

2. Choker style necklaces are back in fashion. n/t

[marybourg]

4. This was a chain,

just a little lighter, but about the same size, as you might hang a planting basket with.

[Corvo Bianco]

5. I'm loving that you're grateful you don't have too much TV exposure

Because you can't handle the jewelry

[marybourg]

7. And so much else! nt

[eShirl]

6. guessing Game of Thrones

[marybourg]

12. Much bigger chain than this one.

[MineralMan]

9. Google chain and lock necklace on Google Shopping.

You'll find plenty of them. Looks like it's a bit of a trend out there.

https://www.google.com/search?q=chain+and+lock+necklace&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS730US730&source=univ&tbm=shop&tbo=u&sa

[Ilsa]

18. Ugh. Not liking it, not even the one in the lovely blue box (Tiffany's). nt

[MineralMan]

21. I agree, but it seems like people are buying them.

To each her own, I guess.

[ProfessorGAC]

28. Geez, One Of Those Was $1700 Used!

And it's pretty gaudy!

[Doreen]

10. That was popular back in my punk rock days.

Somewhere between 1982 to 1984 I dressed like that. Some of the other girls who dressed like I did had those chains and locks and some had spiked collars. I wore the spiked collar. I know they did that in the early 70's also. Everything just keeps coming back but with just a little different flavor.

[marybourg]

14. Yes, about that size and finish.

Does't signal adolescent rebelliousness any more, at least to me. I guess everything is political now. To me it signals "I'm not a free woman".

[Doreen]

23. For the girls back in my time of dressing like that

it was shock value, rebellion, and a little bit political.

[Runningdawg]

16. I had the lock and chain in my punk days too

Just like the spike collar, it was more for self-defense than fashion. Different neighborhoods I guess.

[LisaM]

27. Yeah, it's kind of Sid and Nancy!

It takes me right back to that movie.

[Doreen]

30. Yup, I remember that one.

[B2G]

11. It's a punk thing

See Sid Vicious.

[Doreen]

24. Yup

In my time of punk rock, Suicidal Tendencies, Dead Kennedys, and Black Flag to name a few. It was a weird time in my life. Of course I liked Sid too.

[IcyPeas]

13. Nancy Grace handcuff necklace

LOL

[marybourg]

20. That's almost cute. Nt

[Wounded Bear]

25. Except that she needs to wear them on her wrists...

[procon]

15. Most necklaces resemble chains because its the most common way to

attach the links together. The links come in all sizes, styles and are often decorated or engraved. Necklaces with little matching locks are popular romantic gifts where lovers share the keys, especially for a long absence.

Big, oversized necklace chains are fairly standard accessories. The were the rage back in the 60s, and they are still in vogue today. I wouldn't ready anything sinister in jewelry fads.

[marybourg]

19. I wasn't reading into it ;

I was reacting viscerally to something that didn't come across to me as jewelry, but as the chains of slavery.

[procon]

22. There's probably other factors in play. nt

[delisen]

31. You are very observant.

Fashion does signal shifts in culture.

Why this fashion is signaling is a message that "I will not fully challenge male dominance."

I can be camouflage for a challenger to the status quo who needs cover to survive or an actual surrender message.

There are studies of fashions of the nobility around the time of the French Revolution-things like dressing down- as power shifts were occuring.

[Hortensis]

26. Anyone remember white blouses/shirt and black skirts/pants as standard service worker uniform?

That was how people identified who to ask for more coffee or towels for several decades.

But then during W's presidency, two things happened during the same period that I immediately noted because as a teenager I was required to wear that humble working class uniform.

1. Women in new-era high-pay and status jobs ditched their suits and started wearing what was once strictly a service worker uniform.
2. The talking heads on the political shows started referring to people, us, as "workers" and "consumers."

I didn't for a minute think the two weren't part of one dynamic, but not being a scientist I just yelled at the TV. The working class uniform for Wall Street ceiling-bangers lasted for some while, but apparently calling their viewers "workers" instead of people didn't go over so well because it disappeared from all the cable shows virtually at the same time.

Anyway, in this era when misogyny has climbed out from under its rock snarling, "Hear US roar," just maybe women should refuse to wear captive-style chains around their necks, no matter how "trendy" they might be.

[moondust]

29. Here's one:

[delisen]

32. Frightening! Message Is "I am

no threat to the male power structure. I am working within it and for it."

[marybourg]

33. That still reads "jewelry" to me.

What I saw this morning was galvanized steel chain, like you might secure a garbage can with.