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45 is stopping health care subsidies! MSNBC just announced it. (Original Post) BigmanPigman Oct 2017 OP
Trump is an evil, demented piece of garbage Blaukraut Oct 2017 #1
The ribbing Trumplethinskin took...... ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2017 #28
I never thought of that! BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #29
I dont think it began then. Trump started the birther crap because hes a racist. yardwork Oct 2017 #40
You are correct. ProudMNDemocrat Oct 2017 #42
?, some of this is by law or congress how in the hell is he stopping it by EO? This seems weird uponit7771 Oct 2017 #2
Precisely! How is this constitutional?!?! InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #32
Just like yesterday's signing statement. We can expect lawsuits. Johonny Oct 2017 #43
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2017 #44
Why are you using a number? Just curious rockfordfile Oct 2017 #3
He's the 45th President. Bush and his father, e.g., are known as 43 and 41. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #4
I made a promise to myself BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #5
I will never use his name MFM008 Oct 2017 #8
I prefer Nazi-in-Chief. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2017 #33
I don't use his name as prez. He's 45. nt Laffy Kat Oct 2017 #35
heartless bastard. spanone Oct 2017 #6
This is a calamity! Aristus Oct 2017 #7
Silly liberals, we're not talking about the ACA. We're talking about Obamacare. Garrett78 Oct 2017 #20
As I understand it, this is not premium subsidies. It does apply to Hoyt Oct 2017 #36
Time to become a statistic, as in Americans Who Lost Their Health Insurance stopbush Oct 2017 #9
He has no rock bottom UTUSN Oct 2017 #10
The only rock bottom is the sludge and ooze he climbed out from under. MLAA Oct 2017 #22
Red States Are Gonna Be Pissed Too, You Fuckin Clown... Grassy Knoll Oct 2017 #11
He Now Owns This - Lock, Stock And Barrel..... global1 Oct 2017 #12
If you get SSDI (disability), don't you have Medicare? Kaleva Oct 2017 #13
It takes 2 years after date of SSDI entitlement to get Medicare. roamer65 Oct 2017 #15
One can get it a few months after starting to recieve SSDI Kaleva Oct 2017 #21
Nope, I was a teacher and have to pay into a state retirement system BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #16
not always MFM008 Oct 2017 #26
Gonna get interesting when all the hospital layoffs and closures start. roamer65 Oct 2017 #14
Rural hospitals will be a thing of the past. greymattermom Oct 2017 #19
there goes my health insurance. nt TheFrenchRazor Oct 2017 #17
trump being a dick in the dead of night. NightWatcher Oct 2017 #18
It's what Susan Sarandon wanted. Just LOOK at how giddy and animated she is... NurseJackie Oct 2017 #23
I would like to start an online petition Bradshaw3 Oct 2017 #25
I have been signing and writing letters via BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #30
This isn't nice of me but sprinkleeninow Oct 2017 #37
Susan has the best health care her millions can buy! workinclasszero Oct 2017 #39
Historical materialists want the whole world to burn. joshcryer Oct 2017 #41
Goodbye rural hospitals SHRED Oct 2017 #24
its time for the military to take over rdking647 Oct 2017 #27
Murderous evil. dalton99a Oct 2017 #31
No one corrects the original post with actual facts. JayhawkSD Oct 2017 #34
Yes what is being stopped is the "risk corridor payments" which the ACA failed to provide... PoliticAverse Oct 2017 #38
Sadly hti smight just be what has to happen to wake people the fuck up titaniumsalute Oct 2017 #45

Blaukraut

(5,693 posts)
1. Trump is an evil, demented piece of garbage
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:36 PM
Oct 2017

Governed by an incessant need for revenge against an imagined slight. He really does not care if he increases the deficit and takes healthcare away from millions just so long as he gets back at Obama for whatever he thinks he did to him.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,730 posts)
28. The ribbing Trumplethinskin took......
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:16 AM
Oct 2017


at the White House Press Corps dinner in 2012 over his Birther crap and President Obama releasing his long form Birth Certificate, and all the lies Trump told about investigators in Hawaii did not find. Thinskin Trump has never forgiven Pres. Obama for that, nor never apologized to him for that.

Donald Trump has no fresh ideas of his own. His legacy will be one lf scandal, lies, and revenge over Barack Obama being far more successful and empathetic towards those less fortunate in this country. It is time for #44 to speak out and be brutal in an eloquent manner only he knows how to execute. That will get Trump enraged even more.

BigmanPigman

(51,569 posts)
29. I never thought of that!
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:23 AM
Oct 2017

If Obama did that it could possibly push him over the edge. Maybe he will have the long awaited pressure cooker meltdown on live TV and be so fucking crazy that the most die hard repug saying, "Get the straitjacket ASAP!".
I was reading an article today about how 45 has never had a sense of humor or sincerely laughs and has never had any friends. I watched the 2011 dinner and saw his face and I DID take notice. He was SOOOOO pissed off. The juvenile man baby is doing all of this out of spite. He is truly a sick mother and I told him so in an email to the White House tonight.

yardwork

(61,539 posts)
40. I dont think it began then. Trump started the birther crap because hes a racist.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 07:43 AM
Oct 2017

Trump himself started all this. There would have been nothing to joke about if Trump hadn’t already made a big deal about “investigating” President Obama, accusing him of being born in Kenya, accusing him of being a Muslim.

This did NOT begin at the White House correspondents dinner. It began much earlier, and was started by Trump himself, probably with the collusion of Putin even back then.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,730 posts)
42. You are correct.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 09:51 AM
Oct 2017


in stating Trump's racism. The fact that an African-American was ever President riles him to the core. Imagine what he will do when the official Wh>te House Obama portraits are unveiled in a year or two. What will be the reaction then if the Donald is still POTUS?

Johonny

(20,820 posts)
43. Just like yesterday's signing statement. We can expect lawsuits.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 10:17 AM
Oct 2017

But win or lose the damage might be done before settlement. It would probably take congress forcing the subsidies down his throat to end his threat. And this congress has little spine.

BigmanPigman

(51,569 posts)
5. I made a promise to myself
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:46 PM
Oct 2017

on Nov 8th that I will never call him president, write his name, or listen to him speak. He is not my president. So I call him the fake prez, The Donald, 45, tRump, and now fucking moron.

I just wrote him an email and called him a fucking shitty monster who deserves to suffer in agonizing pain throughout eternity. I have written several like this. I think his people know me since I can not get tickets to his rallies (I just want to reserve/create empty chairs since I would never go).

Aristus

(66,294 posts)
7. This is a calamity!
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 10:50 PM
Oct 2017

Now my homeless patients will lose their insurance.

The ones without an income relied upon the subsidy to be able to afford their ACA premium.

A lot of innocent people are going to suffer.

Which is exactly what Trump and his Trumpanzees want...

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
36. As I understand it, this is not premium subsidies. It does apply to
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 01:52 AM
Oct 2017

help with deductibles and co-insurance which still represents a problem for many. But I think, and I hope to hell so -- they'll still get coverage for preventive care, etc., that doesn't have deductibles and co-insurance applicable.

The POS used car salesman is still hurting poor people for no other reason than he can, and GOPers are supporting him.

global1

(25,225 posts)
12. He Now Owns This - Lock, Stock And Barrel.....
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:01 PM
Oct 2017

It can no longer be called the Affordable Care Act or Obamacare. It is TrumpDon'tCare - and he owns it and all the suffering and death that will go with it. This will hang around his neck like an Albatross.

Kaleva

(36,259 posts)
21. One can get it a few months after starting to recieve SSDI
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:18 PM
Oct 2017

"But if your disability onset date is far enough back, you may have already "served" much or all of the two-year waiting period by the time you get a favorable decision (approval of benefits) from Social Security. (For some claims that go through the appeal process to a hearing in front of an administrative law judge, it can take one to two years to get a disability decision.)

However, your onset date for payment purposes can only be 17 months before your application date—that's because Social Security allows a maximum of 12 months of retroactive benefits. (This maximum gets you to 12 months before your application date, plus five months for the waiting period, so your earliest your effective onset date can be is 17 months before the application date.) In this case, the earliest that you can become eligible for Medicare is one year after you apply for Social Security disability."

https://www.disabilitysecrets.com/dnewsblog/2010/04/how-long-does-it-take-to-get-medicare.html

I got Medicare a year after I applied for SSDI. I applied in Oct of whatever year it was, was approved a few months later in January and got Medicare coverage in October. A full year after I applied.

BigmanPigman

(51,569 posts)
16. Nope, I was a teacher and have to pay into a state retirement system
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:08 PM
Oct 2017

and we do not get social security. The profession is very odd and disability isn't automatically taken out of your paycheck, you have to ask to have it taken out on an individual basis. I had to stop teaching since I got too sick and couldn't get retirement or insurance since I am too young. I am sick and screwed.

MFM008

(19,803 posts)
26. not always
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:08 AM
Oct 2017

mine is Medicaid. Only a matter of time before the maggot somehow destroys Medicaid and
Disability.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
14. Gonna get interesting when all the hospital layoffs and closures start.
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:04 PM
Oct 2017

Rural hospitals are going to take a big hit.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
23. It's what Susan Sarandon wanted. Just LOOK at how giddy and animated she is...
Thu Oct 12, 2017, 11:22 PM
Oct 2017

... she can barely contain her excitement at the horrors that await us.

Bradshaw3

(7,488 posts)
25. I would like to start an online petition
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:03 AM
Oct 2017

of all the people who have been directly hurt by dump with them telling their stories of how they have been hurt (such as losing healthcare) and send it to that stupid prima dona.

BigmanPigman

(51,569 posts)
30. I have been signing and writing letters via
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 12:28 AM
Oct 2017

various Dem organizations and petitions (a lot are on the Daily KOS site). They want you to share your own stories about how it personally effects you. He doesn't read or listen to anyone. That is part of his problem. He has so many problems and serious mental illnesses and should be in the mental ward at Bellevue instead of the White House.

sprinkleeninow

(20,218 posts)
37. This isn't nice of me but
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 02:13 AM
Oct 2017

when I read your entry, (being blurry eyed presently), I thot I read it to say: "she can barely contain her excrement..."
I thot, that can't be right, can it?

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
39. Susan has the best health care her millions can buy!
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 07:39 AM
Oct 2017

She needed the revolution to start over the broken life's and needless deaths of the great unwashed masses...us little people.

I'm sure Sarandon and Jill Stein are squealing in delight at the news of our impending death and destruction by the monster Trump!

 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
34. No one corrects the original post with actual facts.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 01:33 AM
Oct 2017

The constitution does not allow the executive to issue orders to spend money unless Congress has authorized that spending. Obama asked Congress to fund this spending and they voted not to do so. He authorized the spending by executive order, and a federal court ruled that it was unlawful. The court allowed it to continue while it was being appealed, but the fact remains that at the present time it has been found to be unlawful.

This is part of what some warned about when Obama said that, "If Congress won't act then I will." It was cautioned that, aside from being in violation of his constitutional authority, what he could do by executive order, another president could undo by executive order.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
38. Yes what is being stopped is the "risk corridor payments" which the ACA failed to provide...
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:39 AM
Oct 2017

a funding source for.

titaniumsalute

(4,742 posts)
45. Sadly hti smight just be what has to happen to wake people the fuck up
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 11:59 AM
Oct 2017

When Trump thumpers see their hc cost go up 20%, 30%, 40% or whatever and this was 100% based on HIS one Executive order how else will they spin it?

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