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maxrandb

(15,323 posts)
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 04:56 PM Oct 2017

There had better be NOT ONE Democrat

That "deals" with the orange shitgibbon about Healthcare.

The beginning and ending negotiation is that he rescinds that ridiculous EO and restores the CSR payments.

After that, we'll talk about whether it's 20 years, or life in prison for him and his entire Fucking family.

If Dems give into this blackmail, the country is dead

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There had better be NOT ONE Democrat (Original Post) maxrandb Oct 2017 OP
I'm with you. NO DEALS! n/t sprinkleeninow Oct 2017 #1
No negotiating with terrorists BBG Oct 2017 #2
That's succinct. 😈 What sinks into their noggins at this point. sprinkleeninow Oct 2017 #15
Okay, but I will be without health insurance in the meantime... nt HopeAgain Oct 2017 #3
Me too and I am going to die is severe pain while I wait. BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #4
Try to take it a day at a time, but definitely let your Senators and Representative know what you still_one Oct 2017 #8
I live in CA and they know where I stand. BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #9
I am from California too. Let's hope he gets removed sooner than later still_one Oct 2017 #10
Post removed Post removed Oct 2017 #13
Negotiation with the Retrumplicans will not help you maxrandb Oct 2017 #6
Will you lose your health insurance? HopeAgain Oct 2017 #7
Please teell me what deal with Trump will restore lost health insurance. wasupaloopa Oct 2017 #11
Any deal would likely take insurance from someone else Bradical79 Oct 2017 #14
No need... Wounded Bear Oct 2017 #5
Any Democrat who deals with Trump ... flying-skeleton Oct 2017 #12
Human life matters more than anger or ego BainsBane Oct 2017 #16
Me too. Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #19
K&R n/t Glorfindel Oct 2017 #17
Democrats do not negotiate with terrorists. RedSpartan Oct 2017 #18
Wait until the tax cuts for 1% hibbing Oct 2017 #20
They have to stand up. zentrum Oct 2017 #21
You can't negotiate Mr.Bill Oct 2017 #22
Maybe it's because I'm a lawyer but TomSlick Oct 2017 #23

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
4. Me too and I am going to die is severe pain while I wait.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:04 PM
Oct 2017

I can not wait. I have to have surgeries which I can't afford.

still_one

(92,174 posts)
8. Try to take it a day at a time, but definitely let your Senators and Representative know what you
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:24 PM
Oct 2017

are up against

I am thinking what trump did is going to get challenged

I am not sure the executive branch can use an executive order to block the subsidies of an existing law that the SC ruled as Constitutional. I think Congress controls the allocation of funds

I also still haven't given up hope he will be removed from office

BigmanPigman

(51,585 posts)
9. I live in CA and they know where I stand.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:28 PM
Oct 2017

In fact I got an email from Feinstein today saying that she feels for me and my situation and said she plans to cross the aisle and work with the GOP to stop it. The GOP won't budge...why should they? They hold all the cards and they know it! I hate them is an understatement.

Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #9)

maxrandb

(15,323 posts)
6. Negotiation with the Retrumplicans will not help you
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:14 PM
Oct 2017

Do you think they'll except anything that would help you?

It's a tough dilemma. Retrumplicans don't give a shit about you, and the people that do care have absolutely no power to help you.

You give into a bully they just get stronger and demand more.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
11. Please teell me what deal with Trump will restore lost health insurance.
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 06:00 PM
Oct 2017

The only thing you will get from the right is a free market health insurance plan.

If you can afford to pay for your care fine. If not, they don't care.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
14. Any deal would likely take insurance from someone else
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 06:31 PM
Oct 2017

Or it would price a lot of people out of the market. So yeah, nothing to negotiate. Just have to look at what they want, and how each item on their wish list will hurt or kill lots of people if not cause the collapse of the entire thing.

Wounded Bear

(58,647 posts)
5. No need...
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 05:08 PM
Oct 2017

Schumer already said that "repeal" is off the table. He won't re-negotiate anything that reduces the number of people covered.

20 states, some of them red/purple are suing to stop this. Congress is wrapped around the axle about this, and hopefully we can stave off the worst of it until we can re-take the House.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
16. Human life matters more than anger or ego
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 07:15 PM
Oct 2017

If they can arrange something that preserves healthcare and saves lives, I want them to do it.

hibbing

(10,097 posts)
20. Wait until the tax cuts for 1%
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 07:26 PM
Oct 2017

It's been my fear since the start of this, how many Democrats will vote for these fundamental changes that only benefit their corporate masters.


Peace

TomSlick

(11,097 posts)
23. Maybe it's because I'm a lawyer but
Fri Oct 13, 2017, 07:45 PM
Oct 2017

I am accustomed to negotiating with people with whom I have very seriously disagreements. If I get the result my client and I want, I will negotiate with the Devil himself.

With Trump it is impossible to know but I think there might - just might - be an opportunity coming from Trump being down on the Repugnants. If the ACA can be saved from Trump's actions that will soon kill the market, I think it worth a shot. The worse that can happen is that no deal can be done and the Democrats can say they tried.

Lives are at stake. I think there has to at least be an attempt.

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