I'm surprised that more fundamentalist Christians aren't at least uneasy about this.

[pnwmom]

It's the kind of thing they'd be going berserk about if Hillary or Obama owned property with an address of 666, the same number as the number of The Beast in the Book of Revelations.

I don't know any fundies personally. If you do, have you ever discussed the Mark of the Beast with them?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast

The Number of the Beast (Greek: Ἀριθμὸς τοῦ θηρίου, Arithmos tou Thēriou) is a term in the Book of Revelation, of the New Testament, that is associated with the Beast of Revelation in chapter 13.[1] In most manuscripts of the New Testament and in English translations of the Bible, the number of the beast is 666.

https://kushner.com/project/666-fifth-avenue/

666 FIFTH AVENUE
666 FIFTH AVE. NEW YORK, NY 10012
Acquisition date: 2007
In January 2007 Kushner Companies completed the largest single building transaction in New York history with our purchase of 666 Fifth. Purchased for $1.8 billion, this 1.6 square foot, class ”A” office tower was split into separate office and retail condominiums and repositioned to attract higher-end clientele. After a record-breaking lease to Uniqlo for $300 million, the retail section of the building was sold in two separate transactions to Zara and Vornado Realty Trust at a combined value of $1.1 billion. Kushner Companies retained the office condos via separate recapitalization, bringing in Vornado as a joint venture partner in 2011.

[defacto7]

1. Christian interpretation of the New Testament Revelations is

extremely varried. The book of Revelations itself is of highly questionable origin. There have been talks over the centuries whether it should be dropped from the NT all together. But it's great fun for the whimsical and mystical minded because of its ambiguity and apocalyptic nature. So many surreal pictures with absolutely no meaning whatsoever become great preaching material for getting the fearful to the alters. It's the ramblings of a psychotic dream or St. John on an acid trip. But such great prose as well, "...and I saw the holy city coming down out of heaven from God prepared as a bride adorned for her husband... and I saw no tempel therein for the Lord God was the tempel of it, and I saw no sun neither the moon to shine in it for the Lord God and the Lamb were the light thereof. Behold, the dwelling place of God is with humankind. He will be with them and they shall be his people. He shall wipe every tear from their eye neither shall there be mourning nor crying, neither shall there be anymore pain, for the former things have passed away."
Such a beautiful passage. It could mean so many things from a promise of life beyond death to the healing of humankind on earth with God being within us. But don't let it make you transcend to esoteric euphoria yet. The stories are full of satanic creatures and great pain and destruction whether poetic, prophetic, or parable. But one thing you can count on is the scribling of a madman that provides no logic but ends with eternal euphoria.
It provides all the necessay elements for 2000 years of religious end themes and open ended, unsolved visions to keep mythical thinkers fully supplied with new prophesies and divine revelations.
Some worry about it, some pray for it, and some manufacture it.
Sorry for the long post. I get carried away sometimes.

[pnwmom]

2. Thanks for the info. I've never read it, but I'd heard it was a big deal for a certain

segment of Christians.

[sprinkleeninow]

4. The Orthodox Christian Church does not preach, teach, prophesy,

hold 'bible study', formulate hymnology, chant from the Book of Revelation.

[defacto7]

7. Nice

[sprinkleeninow]

8. Do you mean 'nice'? Or, "niiice" like, "Nice goin' Shakes,

when's yer next act?" 🙃

[defacto7]

12. I mean nice like you don't participate in those

typical religious routines.

[sprinkleeninow]

14. Got it!

Heavy emphasis on the erroneous interpretation of the Book of John the Revelator usually results in prophecy programs that 'teach' way out and misleading stuff.

[sprinkleeninow]

3. Deafening silence.

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If it hits them in the face, wellll, they'll naturally JUSTIFY it. Done. You know, it was only LOCKER ROOM TALK. And like that.

I got a neighbor. We had a 'discussion' the other evening. She has CNN on always. The "Army standing ready" was the screen crawler.
She commented, then left the room for a few minutes. The part she neglected was "IF DIPLOMACY FAILS". I told her that. Then we got into Scripture. She's never asked my political leaning, but she must've surmised.
These people, "bless their hearts", repeat their same mantra over and over. I go easy on her because she had a tragedy couple years ago.

I will go head to head tempered with 'charitable lovingkindness' with anyone who gets me started on the way of my Christian Faith.

I practice Orthodox Christianity as best to my wherewithal. We're not perfected human beings. Hardly. But, it irks me the course early Christianity was taken on and then fashioned to veer off into God help me.

The Orthodox Church's one example of where a mess enters is when one uses 'Sola Scriptura' to understand scripture. A combination of scripture, oral and written tradition is key to understanding and intetpretation. Not self interpretation or interpretation by the myriad of differing 'denominational' traditions.

I can't/won't apologize for believing in this manner.
It's who I am.

[LonePirate]

5. American Christian fundamentalists don't believe in the mysticism of the Bible.

For them, the book is a guide how to obtain and use power and how to oppress people. Only the fringe elements believe the doomsday and end times words in it.

[pnwmom]

6. I thought they took it literally, not poetically or mystically.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-heilbroner/evangelicals-israel-and-t_b_391351.html

There are some 50 million Evangelicals in the US who believe in the
literal truth of Bible prophecy. You can argue theological accuracy all you
want. This massive block of citizens possesses unshakable belief that the
end of the world will be heralded by a series of prophetic events some of
which have occurred (e.g. 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina) some of which are
ongoing (the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan).

I am not talking about Bible-thumping, street-corner ravers, though one
or two do appear in our film. The people we profiled — from Evangelical
leaders to rank-and-file believers — are for the most part formidable,
intelligent, well-educated. And all are fixated upon Israel (the land of
Christ’s return).


The Baggs are, in a way, typical. Millions of Evangelicals share one
political belief even more sacred perhaps than opposition to abortion or
same-sex marriage: The belief that Israel must remain a Jewish state
forever.

If that sounds unfamiliar or contradictory, then you’ve never spent much
time listening to Evangelicals. End Times theology declares that the Jewish
people must maintain control of Israel and Jerusalem, and retake the Al-Aqsa
Mosque (a/k/a the Dome of the Rock), or Jesus won’t return. Period.
Understand, they are talking about mankind’s ultimate salvation. And if that
means embracing foretold disasters and wars including the Battle of
Armageddon, so be it.

[sprinkleeninow]

10. "God put trump in the Whitehouse."

He's gonna bring on nuclear WWIII.

"Well, the Bible says the earth will be done in by fire."

Yeah, well, I 'd like to live a while longer.

"WE gonna be translated, ushered outta here, 'raptured' before the bad stuff goes down."

We'll see.

[defacto7]

11. And somewhere in more recent ramblings

they've decided that they can hasten the return of Christ by actually starting the conflicts and disasters needed... herald in... the Dominionists.

These people do take a literal view(whatever that is. It's ambiguous) of their scripture. They are the also divided, not of one interpretation. It's only logical that they would be. They have taken root in congress and want full out war so Jesus comes. They are dangerous. Pence is the prime example and the new leader of the death cult in congress.

The poetics and the mystics are heretics to them. They are also a minority in the Christian faith and the Dominionists are probably a minority among evangelicals.

[sprinkleeninow]

13. I like my Faith with its 'mysteries'.

Western Christianity is pretty much devoid of anything mystical.

Not being critical. "Just stating the facts, ma'am."
Sgt. Friday?

[safeinOhio]

15. They always find a loophole,

like when Jesus said that there are people here today that will be alive to see me return.

None of them scream "literal truth of Bible" when confronted with His Word.

[Not Ruth]

9. I imagine that the 13th floor is the hellmouth