TPM - Marshall - last line "Trump doesnt know how to be President." read the rest....

[NRaleighLiberal]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/for-me-to-win-you-have-to-lose#more-1089284

"For Me To Win, You Have to Lose"

By JOSH MARSHALL Published OCTOBER 15, 2017 9:01 PM

Going on two years ago I read something formative to my understanding of Donald Trump. It was a column by then-Times business columnist Joe Nocera. The column was about a particular swindle with a golf resort. Standard Trump. But the part that mattered was Nocera’s observation about Trump’s fundamental way of doing business and interacting with other people, one he knew from years of covering Trump.

What was taking place in Jupiter was an essential part of Trump’s modus operandi. In every deal, he has to win and you have to lose. He is notorious for refusing to pay full price to contractors and vendors after they’ve completed work for him. And he basically dares the people he has stiffed to sue him, knowing that his deep pockets and bevy of lawyers give him a big advantage over those who

In every deal, he has to win and you have to lose. It actually goes a bit deeper. He doesn’t know he’s won until you lose.

Then a couple days ago TPM Reader DM sent me a post from the real estate economics blog ‘Calculated Risk’. It covered the same ground but placed it in a business school conceptual framework.

Here’s the key passage …

In general, there are two types of negotiations. There is the “win-lose” type (or Distributive negotiation) where one party receives more and the other party receives less. This is the common approach when buying a car or real estate, or haggling at a street market.

The other type of negotiation is “win-win” (or Integrative negotiation). This type is used when negotiating between a company and a worker’s union, with long term suppliers, negotiating agreements between international allies – and even with adversaries.

The tactics for the two types of negotiations are very different. In the first type (win-lose), bluffing, threats (like threatening to walk away), even lying are commonly used. (Sound familiar?)

The approach to an integrative negotiation includes building trust, understanding the other party’s concerns, and knowing the details of the agreement – with the goal to reach a mutually beneficial agreement.


snip - read it all, though it is nothing that all of us here don't know.

[tblue37]

1. K&R for visibility. nt

[AllyCat]

2. I need to show this to my family who voted for his economic policies @

It is an angle I have not tried. A few of them can be swayed. The rest are a lost cause.

[NRaleighLiberal]

3. giving this a kick before I turn in

[JoeOtterbein]

4. I think I can say for certain that the American People have lost to Trump...

...now you can go home to Trump Tower Mr. President!

Please!

[american_ideals]

5. Love Josh

[mountain grammy]

6. Kicking before I read it all

because I know I'll like it. too tired now, will read in the morning.

[Stuart G]

7. Outstanding.."For me to win, You need to lose" totally defines Trump in horrific way.

k and r....I urge everyone to read this. It will give you a view of Trump that will make you understand him better, but also dislike him more. Understanding him better, is worth more dislike.

[Achilleaze]

8. republican Comrade Casino* wins. America loses.

* republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

[treestar]

9. So much for the bit where

people think bringing in a businessman as POTUS will change everything for the better.

[Dulcinea]

10. No one knows how to be President.

Most people learn, some more quickly than others. Dolt 45 doesn't even want to learn. He doesn't care, which is the worst thing of all. He simply doesn't give a shit unless it's all about him.