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TexasTowelie

(111,970 posts)
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 01:22 AM Oct 2017

House Dems choose a 2018 villain, and it's not Trump

House Democrats think they’ve found a Republican to demonize during next year’s midterm election, and it’s not Donald Trump.

In a nod to the Republican president’s enduring popularity with his white working-class base, Democrats are preparing a campaign that focuses just as much on Paul Ryan, the GOP speaker of the House whose own standing with Trump voters has suffered as Republicans struggle to pass major legislation through Congress.

Democrats say the Republican lawmaker better represents a dysfunctional Washington — especially in an election where the party will fight in conservative-leaning districts where Trump performed well just a year ago.

“On the battlefield we have, we have to target districts where Donald Trump performed quite well and talk to people about Speaker Ryan,” said Tyler Law, spokesman for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, the political arm of House Democrats. “A message about establishment Washington Republicans is very powerful and does not alienate voters.

Read more here: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/article178886201.html

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Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
1. Idiots!
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 01:31 AM
Oct 2017

I voted for Hillary, but I'll be damned if I ever vote again for this party if they are afraid of Trump's base.

Don't scold me. If the Dems are such cowards, I can't possibly support them.

elleng

(130,761 posts)
2. Have to DEAL with trump's 'base.'
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 01:41 AM
Oct 2017

Try e.mail from Randy Bryce:

'I just heard the news, and holy cow, it's big:

Thanks to you, we outraised Paul Ryan's campaign last quarter. He raised about $330,000 from big donors and special interests while we raised about $1.1 million from 38,096 people with an average donation of $28.

Wow. That's almost unbelievable. I am so proud -- and grateful -- to be a part of what we've done. When working people come together, there is truly nothing we can't accomplish.'

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029706395

Demsrule86

(68,471 posts)
10. That is awesome. As soon as we are back on our feet after my hubs uemployment, I will donate.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 04:39 AM
Oct 2017

Congrats...take that snake Ryan out!

still_one

(92,061 posts)
3. They are talking about the House which represent specific district in a state, and
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:02 AM
Oct 2017

they used Paul Ryan's district as an example.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
5. Why are they idiots for attacking people who are running in the 2018 election?
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:39 AM
Oct 2017

This just makes sense.

pnwmom

(108,959 posts)
7. Yes, they do. They NEED to fight the GOP house, and we're close to taking the majority there.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:01 AM
Oct 2017

That will put the Dems in charge of House committee chairmanships, and will quickly lead to an impeachment proceeding. It will also prevent the GOP from passing bills with no Democratic support.

Demsrule86

(68,471 posts)
9. Boy this is a reach...perhaps you should wait for a better thread to attack Democrats... I am sure
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 04:38 AM
Oct 2017

one will come along.

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
11. Frustration
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 09:13 AM
Oct 2017

I'm not attacking anyone. I just think we should focus on the Big Orange, not his waterboy.

Demsrule86

(68,471 posts)
14. Making elections national didn't work so well in the last couple of elections.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:16 AM
Oct 2017

But you didn't just say that ...you attacked House Dems...those we are trying to elect. Running against Paul Ryan who is already unpopular might help in some states.

Cartoonist

(7,309 posts)
15. Poor strategy IMHO
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:20 AM
Oct 2017

Since when is disagreeing called attacking? OK, maybe calling them idiots was a bit much, but I want the Dems to win.

Demsrule86

(68,471 posts)
17. Below is what you posted. It is an attack.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:44 AM
Oct 2017

"Idiots,I voted for Hillary, but I'll be damned if I ever vote again for this party if they are afraid of Trump's base.
Don't scold me. If the Dems are such cowards, I can't possibly support them"

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Ryan is a true extremist who intends to destroy all progressive programs
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:02 PM
Oct 2017

We the People have enacted over the past 100 years. He is hand in glove with ultrawealthy archconservatives like the Kochs and the hundreds in their alliance. And there is so much truth to use against him that the American people NEED to know that there is absolutely no need to "demonize" him. Just reveal what he and his partners are up to.

They DO absolutely intend to destroy
Social Security
Medicare
VA
Unemployment Insurance
EPA

and hundreds of smaller but critically important programs people tend to forget about, like
Centers for Disease Control
Community energy, development and service block grants
Global Climate Change Initiative

Ryan is not only much farther right than the typical conservative and the typical voting Republican, he is just one of many extremists our state and national governments have been packed with. Connecting this insidious conspiracy to a nationally known top Republican official is not only a good strategy but a very necessary one. Trump is not one of them -- they can't be hurt by taking him out, or by Pence going down with him -- because Ryan is next in succession to the presidency.

FSogol

(45,452 posts)
12. LOL. Here's a list of synonyms for "trying to hard"
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 09:16 AM
Oct 2017

overcompensate
give too much weight to
overcorrect
overplay
overreact

Bashers gotta bash.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
8. Not sure this is a great idea
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:44 AM
Oct 2017

A Cuban family lives next to me in Miami. They are three generations and dependably Democratic. But the mother likes and trusts Paul Ryan. I speak with her son about it frequently. He is incredibly frustrated. Every time Ryan is on camera his mother will say something positive about him, so he has to scold his mother and emphasize that Ryan is really a snake.

dawg

(10,621 posts)
13. That's exactly why we should do it.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 09:49 AM
Oct 2017

The problem isn't just Trump. It's the whole damned Republican Party.

Slick politicians like Paul Ryan and Marco Rubio have many fooled into thinking that they actually care about working class families. They do not, and we need to rip the masks off these charlatans. The voters need to know what these clowns really stand for.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
16. I guess we need to hope that most incumbent Republicans win their respective primaries
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:25 AM
Oct 2017

Because this strategy is going to fall flat if a Bannon backed insurgents like a Roy Moore gets the party nomination for a particular seat.

It will be interesting to see how pissed off the Republican base is at the establishment.

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