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packman

(16,296 posts)
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:24 AM Oct 2017

Five types of gun laws the Founding Fathers loved

#1: Registration
All of the colonies – apart from Quaker-dominated Pennsylvania, the one colony in which religious pacifists blocked the creation of a militia – enrolled local citizens, white men between the ages of 16-60 in state-regulated militias. The colonies and then the newly independent states kept track of these privately owned weapons required for militia service. Men could be fined if they reported to a muster without a well-maintained weapon in working condition.

#2: Public carry
... there was no general right of armed travel when the Second Amendment was adopted, and certainly no right to travel with concealed weapons. Such a right first emerged in the United States in the slave South decades after the Second Amendment was adopted. a result.

#3: Stand-your-ground laws
Under traditional English common law, one had a duty to retreat, not stand your ground. Deadly force was justified only if no other alternative was possible. One had to retreat, until retreat was no longer possible, before killing an aggressor.

The use of deadly force was justified only in the home, where retreat was not required under the so-called castle doctrine, or the idea that “a man’s home is his castle.” The emergence of a more aggressive view of the right of self-defense in public, standing your ground, emerged slowly in the decades after the Civil War.

#4: Safe storage laws
In 1786, Boston acted on this legal principle, prohibiting the storage of a loaded firearm in any domestic dwelling in the city. Guns had to be kept unloaded, a practice that made sense since the black powder used in firearms in this period was corrosive. Loaded guns also posed a particular hazard in cases of fire because they might discharge and injure innocent bystanders and those fighting fires.

#5: Loyalty oaths
In fact, the Founders engaged in large-scale disarmament of the civilian population during the American Revolution. The right to bear arms was conditional on swearing a loyalty oath to the government. Individuals who refused to swear such an oath were disarmed.

The notion that the Second Amendment was understood to protect a right to take up arms against the government is absurd. Indeed, the Constitution itself defines such an act as treason.

Gun regulation and gun ownership have always existed side by side in American history. The Second Amendment poses no obstacle to enacting sensible gun laws. The failure to do so is not the Constitution’s fault; it is ours.

More on each of these five gun laws at:

https://theconversation.com/five-types-of-gun-laws-the-founding-fathers-loved-85364

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Five types of gun laws the Founding Fathers loved (Original Post) packman Oct 2017 OP
The Second Amendment: A Biography. Very good read by Michael Waldman underpants Oct 2017 #1
Of course the Loyalty oath. DK504 Oct 2017 #2
Ammunition was heard exploding during the fires in Santa Rosa BSdetect Oct 2017 #3

DK504

(3,847 posts)
2. Of course the Loyalty oath.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:52 AM
Oct 2017

Of course that's what the Founders meant, that's why we/they wrote the Bill of Rights to ensure the exact opposite. My ancestor didn't fight in the Revolution so he could bend a knee to anyone, mush less the President.

Gun owners can have muskets and I'm a gun owner. My Ruger 10/22 is closet thing there is to one.

BSdetect

(8,998 posts)
3. Ammunition was heard exploding during the fires in Santa Rosa
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:56 AM
Oct 2017

Imagine firefighters having to dodge some idiot's exploding arsenal?

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