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The spokeswoman for the National Rifle Association says death threats from gun control advocates have forced her to move her family from their California home.
Spent my weekend preparing to move due to repeated threats from gun control advocates, NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch tweeted Sunday to her 642,000 followers. The tweet included a photo of bags presumably filled with her belongings piled up on her floor.
Loesch, a frequent cable news guest, also wrote that one person threatened to shoot her after obtaining her private cellphone number, another threatened rape and another dragged her kids into the threats, ultimately prompting the move
Staunch gun control advocate Chelsea Clinton weighed in to support Loesch, calling the threats awful and unacceptable.
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/355717-nra-spokeswoman-says-shes-moving-due-to-gun-control-death-threats#
It's nice that Clinton supported her but that comments section. What an ugly place...
Initech
(100,060 posts)The comments sections do more harm than good. If you want to comment on an article or a video, go to a forum like this one.
LisaM
(27,800 posts)They have terms of service, but they never seem to abide by them.
Kleveland
(1,257 posts)Seriously... I cannot believe gun control advocates threaten in this way.
It is just a high profile ploy to garner sympathy in the media, and in the sick minds of the fools who cannot let go of their toys of death.
Someone should investigate this nonsense.
It is just as believable as paid protesters.
There is no bottom to the depth of depravity that these RW fucks will fall to.
Baconator
(1,459 posts)... and just go down the "Fake News" line by default.
LiberalLovinLug
(14,169 posts)We know that Putin is interested in fomenting rage and disruption in every way, from every position.
LexVegas
(6,050 posts)Scoopster
(423 posts)I find it pleasingly ironic that this spokesperson for merchants of death is being threatened by the same death she peddles for a living.
Baconator
(1,459 posts)The rape or the part about the children?
Seriously... WTF?
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Made a string of commercials all but suggesting black folks, feminists and liberals should be shot as freedom-hating traitors and now she wants to cry foul?
Besides, I bet any amount of money that she sent these "threats" to herself to inflate her own importance again...
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)Gun control advocates arent threatening to kill someone.
I would love to see her without a job, but other than that, no thanks.
Baconator
(1,459 posts)How progressive of you...
Seriously... WTF...
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Don't ramp up the violent rhetoric if you can't take it when it's directed at you... Assuming it's authentic, of course...
And I'd suggest you find another pithy retort, because "How progressive of you..." has been a trolling hallmark for long time now... I'm not calling you a troll, I'm just sayin'...
Baconator
(1,459 posts)A woman gets threatened with rape and attacks on her children but because she is from the wrong political group she must have made it up or she deserves it.
It's bullshit and just shows that no one can claim the moral high ground because everyone seems to be super willing to jump in the mud when it's against the other guy.
It's disgusting
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)It's a classic right-wing tactic. Don't take anything she says seriously - she's a deranged loon with a fascist agenda.
Now if police state that she has had these types of attacks, then yes, I am disturbed.
EllieBC
(3,013 posts)Usually from those who claim rape victims are making it up. Interesting company you'll keep when it's your "enemy", eh?
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)It's fair to be skeptical in this case. I don't trust a twitter feed.
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)You dont get to accuse the woman you dont like of lying and take others you do like at their word.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)So DU taking the word of a Faux News/NRA shill at face value?? Par for the course, I guess....
Log in tomorrow to see DU's "Steve Bannon deserves a Pulitzer" wish thread!
Scoopster
(423 posts)It may seem callous and bigoted, but it's not.
We cannot trust anything that these people say, write or do. They have proven that to us all over and over and over.
Scoopster
(423 posts)If she wants to get past the air of distrust that SHE HERSELF CREATED WITH HER OWN WORDS AND ACTIONS ADVOCATING MURDER, then let her provide proof to the proper authorities and let them take the proper action.
This isn't questioning violence against women. It's questioning the words of a proven liar, murder profiteer and propagandist.
EllieBC
(3,013 posts)Anyone who threatens to harm children should have whatever they threaten done to them.
I don't care who it is. Kids are off limits. Unless you're a nasty perverted pig like Trump.
rainin
(3,010 posts)understanding the hypocrisy argument. The left advocates for personal/public safety and we're ignored. Now she wants personal safety? Yea, lady, we've been trying to tell you!
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)I commented on a vid Loesch made for the NRA. It was a disgusting piece of propaganda which basically called for armed rebellion against Trump's detractors, liberals in particular, those evil, coastal elites. What really pissed me off is she made all gun owners sound like goons ready to hit the streets and shoot things up. She doesn't represent me or the vast majority of responsible gun owners who support sensible and effective gun regulation. The NRA has lost membership over their fringe positions. Gun manufacturers have lost revenue from reduced sales. How do you boost profits? Oh yeah, call for an armed rebellion, that's the ticket. These people are shameless. As if we haven't had enough tragedy and blood.
Though I don't approve of threatening anyone with violence, there is an irony here: if you instill hatefulness, you're likely to get hatefulness back. Doesn't take a genius to know that. Too bad Loesch thought she was immune to the very swill she was peddling. You get what you put out. Lesson learned. Or not.
Scoopster
(423 posts)Seriously WTF yourself.
Baconator
(1,459 posts)Don't blame me for asking about it...
How trump like...
Scoopster
(423 posts)The way in which you defend a NRA spokesperson and their murder-driven agenda without any reservation is very like him.
Baconator
(1,459 posts)... and my judgment as to whether or not they should or should not be physically threatened is not dependant on that speech.
Girard442
(6,067 posts)...but I wouldn't get all that teary about it either.
Demit
(11,238 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)She's pretty fragile and easily rattled for a heavily armed wannabe badass, isn't she? If there was a genuine threat, I'd have thought she'd be out trying to gat somebody in a pre-emptive attack?
Demit
(11,238 posts)Even amongst progressives, I see.
Yes, when you get anonymous threats it can rattle you, because you don't know where to look. You don't know where it's coming from. That would hold true for women or men.
Suggesting that anybody, woman or man, would go out and try to "gat" somebody preemptively is a pretty unhinged thing to say, in my view. It's so full of hate. Are you actually serious?
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)then "progressives" have MUCH bigger problems than me right now... Seriously, what happened to this place?
Oh, I see where Dana's imaginary stalkers messed up -- What they SHOULD have fucking done was threaten to pass some gun control legislation! You can bet your sweet ass that ol' Dana would've raised up with her fingers on both triggers...
All jokes aside, you *DO* know who Dana Fuckin' Loesch is, and how she conducts herself online, right? You *HAVE* seen her disgusting neo-fascist ad campaign, right?? The average NRA "patriot" jacks off every night hoping someone who looks like me will be walking down his street one evening so he can shoot that person without cause and be a "hero"... And yet somehow I'm the one who's "unhinged"? I'm the bad guy here? I'm the last sane motherfucking person I know!
I'll stop here before I say something I'll momentarily regret. Just put me on ignore since I've committed some grave offense against your dainty sensibilities, and I'll do the same since you saw fit to call me "unhinged"... I've got bigger fish to fry anyway.
Demit
(11,238 posts)If a woman doesn't "conduct herself" properly, it's okay to threaten her with rape.
I know who Dana Loesch is. I've seen her videos. They're disgusting. And I still say that it's VERY possible to take her at her word, because I see the contempt & hate, from supposed progressives, just in this thread.
Women have a lot to be afraid of, always. Men always threaten women with rape because men are physically stronger than women, and it's how they can best show their contempt for women.
XRubicon
(2,212 posts)I am a man. What are you accusing me of?
moda253
(615 posts)Cry me a fucking river. The NRA has helped create a reality where we literally have to be concerned that we might be brutally gunned down if we go to a movie, a concert, or any number of public events.
Fuck her. We all live in fear now. And she helped to promote that shit.
lunasun
(21,646 posts)wrong woman. None of its right btw but starting with her though...
Polly Hennessey
(6,793 posts)When all you do is lie then all you say is a lie.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Something sounds fishy here.
Baconator
(1,459 posts)... and likely has a full-time security force and property to match.
This woman is a mid-tier PR exec. Also, she's a woman and that tends to bring out the internet trolls exponentially...
NCjack
(10,279 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)Guns being the panacea for all that ails an individual and society, why isn't Ms. Loesch laying in a bigger supply of shootin' arns instead of whining about alleged death threats? Is the NRA chiseling her and she can't afford more guns and ammo? If she's capable of self reflection, now might be a good time for her to re-evaluate some of her life choices.
sarisataka
(18,570 posts)Or physical violence should be unequivocally condemned; it is a sorry sign when that does not happen on a progressives site.
If Chelsea Clinton accepts that the threats have been made, I will not call her a liar.
tymorial
(3,433 posts)Thank you for posting this. The sheer hypocrisy is fucking outrageous and deeply disgusting
sarisataka
(18,570 posts)Is the contrasting attitude in this thread with all the threads of women's experience in Hollywood and elsewhere.
Apparently we can only support women we agree with when they come forward. If we disagree with their position they must be lying or deserve such treatment.
Funny (not ha ha) thing is those attitudes are exactly what the women coming forward now say is what kept them silent for years.
tymorial
(3,433 posts)Fear of being shamed, disbelieved or having your life ruined by someone in power all contribute to silence from victims of sexual abuse and sexual violence. The woman who was raped at a party or bar was asking for it... The adolescent and/or pre-adolescent boy who was prayed upon by an older woman somehow hit the lottery... the men and women in prison who are raped every day by other inmates and/or guards are disposable so who cares... the men who have been raped by other men or women well men can't be raped and if they were sexually assaulted or coerced into sex by a woman under threat of rape (happened to me) well all men want sex all the time anyway so nothing bad happened? Its fucking gross.
No one is disposable and no one should have to fear shame. I expect more from the people here but maybe to some, the only people that matter are those who "think the right way"
Baconator
(1,459 posts)... and this thread turned into an extension of the same.
edbermac
(15,937 posts)Police, FBI, etc. Right Dana?
Or was it Sherlock Holmes? Barney Fife? Robocop?
Baconator
(1,459 posts)Is that what you are saying?
For those on the right it's obvious they were asking for it or made it up?
edbermac
(15,937 posts)If she didn't notify law enforcement then I have my doubts.
If threats were indeed made, then whoever did belongs in jail.
Baconator
(1,459 posts)... That someone had called her personal phone and made threats?
If you wouldn't expect a phone bill, recorded call and police report on Twitter for someone you do agree with then you need to make sure you are being honest.
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)She stated that "Im grateful that my kids school worked with law enforcement and private security to ensure campus safety, and work with me," so that sounds like she reported them.
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)But it certainly is disappointing to see "progressives" peddling "false flag" BS that I would expect from Alex Jones, or even worse saying that they don't give "two shits" that some assholes threatened a woman's children and threatened to rape her to death. Appalling and disgusting comments on here.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)ClarendonDem
(720 posts)With folks on DU excusing death threats to children? Or saying that they don't "give a shit" about threats to rape a woman to death? Are you saying she deserves it? That's awfully progressive of you.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)ClarendonDem
(720 posts)Is how you defend threats to rape a woman to death? There was a time when folks on DU took the high road, but it appears the Trump has dragged everyone into the gutter.
On edit, Dan from Texas, are you excusing the rape threats because of her tweets?
DanTex
(20,709 posts)And for some reason, you are defending her defense of Trump. There was a time... LOL.
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)You have no answer to my questions. You should just admit that you were wrong.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)But here, I'll give you another chance. What do you think of her defense of Trump's sexual assaults?
My prediction: you won't answer. Let's see what happens.
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)On the issues in this thread? We can start another one that is easier for you if thats your preference
DanTex
(20,709 posts)when it's directed at someone other than an NRA spokeswoman with a long track record of dishonesty. It's bizarre how you're trying to avoid the topic. Hmm....
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)I dont see anything in the original post or linked article about Trump. Dan from Texas, did I miss something?
DanTex
(20,709 posts)This is getting kinda funny....
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)Has nothing to do with the topic of this thread. Focus grasshopper.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)the actual act of sexual assault. I can see that it's inconvenient for you to discuss it, but the fact that you'd rather pretend it didn't happen doesn't make it go away.
Sorry.
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)But Ill ask again, and give you a chance to redeem yourself by rephrasing. Should progressives condemn threats to rape a woman to death?
DanTex
(20,709 posts)What is about about this NRA spokesperson's defense of Trump that you find so difficult to condemn. I mean, even though this woman is a habitual and professional liar, progressives like Chelsea Clinton are coming to her defense.
And yet you can't bring yourself to condemn her defense of Trump's admitted sexual assaults. Kinda strange...
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)Your partisan blinders prevent you from condemning a threat to rape a woman to death or kill her kids. Good day to you Dan from Texas, and I sincerely hope you rediscover common decency.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)And insulting me doesn't help your case.
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)And this story isnt about the NRA. It is about whether we should condone rape and death threats. Youve refused to answer multiple direct questions about this issue, and Ill ask again - should progressives condemn threats to rape a woman to death? This isnt a trick question, and a yes or no answer will suffice Dan from Texas.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)You want to narrow in on one specific detail and avoid a much larger picture because you can't bring yourself to concede that an NRA spokesperson might not be a wonderful honest person after all. Of course death threats should be condemned, everyone agrees about that.
But not everyone agrees about Trump's serial sexual assaults. For example, Dana Loesch doesn't agree. I wonder where you stand on her defense of his, but I think anyone reading can pretty easily infer the answer from your refusal to touch the subject. And that goes a long way towards explaining why you are attacking DUers with such enthusiasm.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)She's a PR person. Yes, she's nasty as can be, but she doesn't pull any weight. These facts make all this highly suspect.
Baconator
(1,459 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Baconator
(1,459 posts)Paladin
(28,246 posts)rockfordfile
(8,701 posts)California actually tries to make it safer to deal with the gun nuts. It seems she likes to live in a place that fights for safer gun regulations.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)And it has nothing to do with their position on anything.
It is simply how some people have fun.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Attila the Hun.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)'nuff said
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)I'm a democrat and a gun owner.
Anyone who pays dues to the NRA is a fascist and part of a right wing terror organization IMO.
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)And raping to death women who are NRA members is ok to you? Despicable.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)I did not condone any threats. I think they are an evil organization nonetheless and the antithesis of progressive vslues.
HopeAgain
(4,407 posts)but I will also say (not justifying physical threats) that the NRA is fueling the culture war that is dividing this country and making everything so emotional.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)They were probably moving for the usual reasons and decided to get a shot in against those ultra violent gun control advocates.
Demit
(11,238 posts)I don't care who they're against, or how vile a person Dana Loesch is.
A lot of people here better reexamine why they call themselves progressive, and compassionate. Because they sound very vicious and mean-spirited to me.
sarisataka
(18,570 posts)Have morals and ethics that turn out to be quite situational. That which is abhorrent in one case is acceptable in another.
Sadly, as we see here, it is not limited to one side of the political spectrum.
NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)This is a person with a history of lying for political gain. Threats of sexual violence are never OK, but without actual reports from police, I am hesitant to accept this.
Locrian
(4,522 posts)Doesn't she own a gun or 10? I though just having a gun makes you safe as a baby in his mothers arms? Huh?
(not that I think this is anything but a publicity stunt)
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Crazed gunman with NRA approved bump stock military assault weapon arsenal opens fire on crowd in LV slaughtering 50 plus and injuring hundreds more.
Crazed right wing spokes person for the NRA suddenly has to move because peaceful gun control advocates are threatening her with bodily harm.
Uh..yeah....sure.
Nothing to see here folks, that poor nazi NRA woman that made the vile, hateful and violent video screed against the left is as pure as the driven snow obviously!
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)The real question is whether or not this thread is a coincidence.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Not to mention that they were ramming legalized silencers for guns through Congress at the same time as the LV mass murder.
A little diversion from those facts huh NRA?
It's funny that the gun humping NRA is trying to make gun control advocates out to be the violent ones LOL
Classic right wing projection, assholes.
ATL Ebony
(1,097 posts)maxsolomon
(33,284 posts)Please keep up this important work of calling out Liberal Hypocrisy on a Liberal Board.
& Welcome to DU. I must have missed your earlier posts.
Baconator
(1,459 posts)... with launch codes.
Get smarter or get ready for more of the same...
maxsolomon
(33,284 posts)and filling it with specious propaganda rife with callous disregard for human suffering that has raised divisions to a boiling point.
Until Loesch contacts the cops and they back her up, skepticism regarding the claims of a hyperbolic gun-rights propagandist is a rational response. It strains credulity that this is the 1st time she's had a Death Threat.
If some nutcase threatened her, that's terrible. Find them and prosecute them. Its not exactly uncommon these days - ask any Feminist or BLM activist with a public profile.
It's not my bullshit any more than Unabomber's was mine.
Baconator
(1,459 posts)We have the old saying "The enemy gets a vote too..."
No one is asking you to take a deep personal interest in it or send her moving money... You and others in this thread though could stand to be a little bit less smug and gleeful at her predicament.
maxsolomon
(33,284 posts)And you got it. Now you get to scold the Left for not living up to the ideal of MLK or Gandhi. or Baconator.
I'm not smug or gleeful about death threats; like others, I find it ironic, given her business is propagandizing for death.
I am also skeptical, of both her and of you.
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)Freethinker65
(10,009 posts)theaocp
(4,235 posts)No sympathy and no proof these are from anyone aligned with gun control. Maybe she should arm up.
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)Did Dana Loesch rape to death?
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)Last edited Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:35 PM - Edit history (1)
Hasnt she said a thousand times that her guns will protect her? That rape & crime prevention is what guns are for?
No one, EVER, deserves rape threats. Or threats of any kind, for that matter.
The fact that she claims to be moving because of them means shes a liar: she either didnt get the threats or her precious guns cant protect her.
(Edit for decisiveness.)
Baconator
(1,459 posts)When they make an absolute claim using words like EVER or NEVER and then follow it up with a BUT...
treestar
(82,383 posts)Why move when you have the guns to protect yourself, pursuant to your Second Amendment rights?
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)The way she talks you would have thought that she would meet them in a street at high noon is full Tac gear toting an AK on each arm.
Making death threats is not cool, losers do that. But that woman is a bullying loudmouth and need to resign and go away.
Fla_Democrat
(2,547 posts)I didn't learn anything new, but every now and then I like to look back over some very telling replies and remind myself.
Baconator
(1,459 posts)jmowreader
(50,552 posts)This is exactly the kind of false flag crap the hard right and their Russian controllers specialize in.
dalton99a
(81,432 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)Loesch.
**Yawns**
Inkfreak
(1,695 posts)This thread is shit.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)and then claiming she was not allowed to speak.
Baconator
(1,459 posts)Do you think she's really not moving? She is moving but never received a threat?
Would you be equally as skeptical and demanding if it was Huma Abedin or Raegan McDonald-Mosley (CMO and spokesperson for planned parenthood)?
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)This is the same old, same old, over the past 20 years I've read enough copies of Freedom Magazine to have seen the NRA's performance art before. I used to belong to the NRA until it got too ridiculous to take seriously
Paladin
(28,246 posts)Anyone who has voiced support for gun control in this country knows all too well which side regularly deals in threats of violence to support its beliefs and intimidate its opposition. No one should be fooled by this woman's theatrics.
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)Cause you just did here.
XRubicon
(2,212 posts)I hear the gun laws are to her liking.
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)Which has the most liberal gun laws in the nation. But gun laws aren't really the issue.
XRubicon
(2,212 posts)ClarendonDem
(720 posts)Are the issue in a thread about threats to kill children or rape a woman to death? I must have missed the memo.
ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)With all the horrific fires this is good news.
Sorry posted in wrong thread.
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)What do you think about the fact that Vermont's gun laws are more liberal than Nevada's?
DanTex
(20,709 posts)ChubbyStar
(3,191 posts)You just brought it to the nail. Thanks Dan!
Paladin
(28,246 posts)It's pretty obvious, the sort of agenda you're toting on this thread. Nobody's fooled.
struggle4progress
(118,273 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)Response to Baconator (Original post)
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Proud Liberal Dem
(24,402 posts)that goes for Ms. Loesch as well in terms of the veiled threats that she has made against NRA opponents and liberals as part of her role as NRA spokesperson.
awesomerwb1
(4,267 posts)Actually bigly BS. She was probably moving anyway so they're using that to just stoke the fire shortly after the Vegas massacre.
ClarendonDem
(720 posts)And shows that some of us aren't any better than Alex Jones and his ilk. Seems that if you disagree with Loesch's politics she either "deserves" to be raped or is lying. Hillary would be proud!
Interesting opinion piece on this issue - [link:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/treatening-dana-loesch-isnt-funny-or-noble-it-is_us_59e67d65e4b0e60c4aa36610|
DanTex
(20,709 posts)You joined DU right after a gun massacre and immediately started attacking long-time members and pushing NRA talking points.
Did you really think people weren't going to figure you out? (BTW, thanks for linking to an article by a Trump supporter, it clears up any possible remaining ambiguity as to what you're doing here, but believe me, we were on to you long before that).
I look forward to seeing your next incarnation. Thanks to your pals at the NRA, there's sure to be another mass shooting before too long. So you probably want to start thinking about what screen name you are going to use for that one.