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Baconator

(1,459 posts)
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:02 AM Oct 2017

NRA spokeswoman says shes moving due to gun control death threats

The spokeswoman for the National Rifle Association says death threats from “gun control advocates” have forced her to move her family from their California home.

“Spent my weekend preparing to move due to repeated threats from gun control advocates,” NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch tweeted Sunday to her 642,000 followers. The tweet included a photo of bags presumably filled with her belongings piled up on her floor.

Loesch, a frequent cable news guest, also wrote that one person threatened to shoot her after obtaining her private cellphone number, another threatened rape and another “dragged her kids into” the threats, ultimately prompting the move

Staunch gun control advocate Chelsea Clinton weighed in to support Loesch, calling the threats “awful and unacceptable.”

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/355717-nra-spokeswoman-says-shes-moving-due-to-gun-control-death-threats#

It's nice that Clinton supported her but that comments section. What an ugly place...


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NRA spokeswoman says shes moving due to gun control death threats (Original Post) Baconator Oct 2017 OP
I think more websites need to follow MSN's lead and shut down comments altogether. Initech Oct 2017 #1
Or, they could have their own comments section and actually monitor it. LisaM Oct 2017 #52
A false flag, likely perpetrated by the NRA. Kleveland Oct 2017 #2
Don't be that guy (gal)? Baconator Oct 2017 #12
or Russian trolls LiberalLovinLug Oct 2017 #132
Bullshit. nt LexVegas Oct 2017 #3
Move out of the country, you traitor. Scoopster Oct 2017 #4
Which part did you like best? Baconator Oct 2017 #10
Come the hell on now.... Blue_Tires Oct 2017 #24
Of course she did. These are vile filthy disgusting people. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #26
Wow... She either made it up or she had it coming... Baconator Oct 2017 #29
It's called "hypocrisy" Blue_Tires Oct 2017 #36
This whole thread is full of hypocrisy... Baconator Oct 2017 #48
She's probably making it all up. Wait for a Police confirmation first. NutmegYankee Oct 2017 #49
Wow I've heard that one before. EllieBC Oct 2017 #57
The subject has a history of lying for political gain. NutmegYankee Oct 2017 #59
No, it isnt ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #61
I know 2017 is supposed to be the bizarro "upside down" year Blue_Tires Oct 2017 #60
100% Agree. Scoopster Oct 2017 #124
Fine. Then let her prove it. Scoopster Oct 2017 #122
And I'm just saying EllieBC Oct 2017 #56
I'm not sure why your having problems rainin Oct 2017 #128
Yes, she did peggysue2 Oct 2017 #73
Stop putting words in my mouth. Scoopster Oct 2017 #120
You said it... Baconator Oct 2017 #125
Yes, it is. Scoopster Oct 2017 #127
I believe people should have their free speech... Baconator Oct 2017 #130
I haven't sunk so low I'd actually celebrate an arsonist getting third degree burns... Girard442 Oct 2017 #129
Are you pleased that she got threatened with rape, too? Demit Oct 2017 #35
I'll call BS on that all day long Blue_Tires Oct 2017 #39
Women get raped, or threatened with rape, men say they're lying. Nothing new there. Demit Oct 2017 #44
Um... If DUers are taking Dana Fuckin' Loesch at her word Blue_Tires Oct 2017 #47
What you just said is an example of what women fear. Demit Oct 2017 #64
"Men always threaten women with rape because men are physically stronger than women" XRubicon Oct 2017 #92
I honestly don't give two shits. moda253 Oct 2017 #5
I've seen her commercials I thought she was doing that herself(death threats) maybe I have the lunasun Oct 2017 #6
Dont believe it. Polly Hennessey Oct 2017 #7
So why aren't the "gun control advocates" doing the same thing to Wayne LaPierre? smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #8
Wayne LaPierre is rich... Baconator Oct 2017 #11
Surprised she didn't get some guns and protect herself. nt NCjack Oct 2017 #9
That occurred to me gratuitous Oct 2017 #15
Any threats such of sexual sarisataka Oct 2017 #13
I keep writing this over and over again but I keep stopping and starting tymorial Oct 2017 #31
What is especially disturbing sarisataka Oct 2017 #34
Definitely. tymorial Oct 2017 #41
I was disgusted by the comments in the original page... Baconator Oct 2017 #70
I assume she notified the proper authorities. edbermac Oct 2017 #14
Rape threats only happen to left aligned folks? Baconator Oct 2017 #16
I'm asking for proof that these threats were made. edbermac Oct 2017 #17
How would she prove to the general public... Baconator Oct 2017 #18
In one of her tweets ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #19
Don't know if it surprises me ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #20
Welcome to DU. Out of curiosity, how do you feel about this tweet? DanTex Oct 2017 #68
What does that tweet have to do ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #89
LOL. That's what I figured. DanTex Oct 2017 #98
Thats what I figured ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #99
The only person defending a serial sexual assaulter here is the NRA spokeswoman. DanTex Oct 2017 #100
Got it ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #101
LOL. The only one avoiding questions is you. DanTex Oct 2017 #104
Dan, are you going to focus ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #108
That's exactly what I'm doing. Violence against women is a problem even DanTex Oct 2017 #111
What part of this story is about defending Trump ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #103
The tweet that I posted is about defending Trump. Are you pretending you didn't see it? DanTex Oct 2017 #107
The tweet you posted ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #109
Of course it does. It's a tweet about sexual assault. And not just threats of sexual assault, DanTex Oct 2017 #110
I know this is a tough topic for you ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #112
LOL. Yet another dodge. DanTex Oct 2017 #113
Got it ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #114
Your NRA blinders prevent you from condemning serial sexual assaults. DanTex Oct 2017 #115
Never contributed a dime to the NRA ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #116
There are a lot of angles, even ones that you don't want to look at. DanTex Oct 2017 #117
Attack the messenger? ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #21
Because....? Baconator Oct 2017 #22
Because of the logical fallacy I just pointed out ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #23
You keep using that word... Baconator Oct 2017 #28
I don't believe her. Not for a moment. (nt) Paladin Oct 2017 #25
You would think she would be living in Mississippi rockfordfile Oct 2017 #27
Anyone identified with any issue in the media gets this stuff jberryhill Oct 2017 #30
Take a good look at this evil fascist that says the NRA is coming for all of us to the left of workinclasszero Oct 2017 #32
F#ck anyone who belongs to the NRA, especially any Democrats who do HopeAgain Oct 2017 #45
Totally agree workinclasszero Oct 2017 #54
So death threats to children ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #62
No I was responding to a specific video and a specific post. HopeAgain Oct 2017 #66
I think any threats are horrible HopeAgain Oct 2017 #33
I'm sure this is an NRA stunt..a false flag workinclasszero Oct 2017 #37
I can't believe that DU members would not UNEQUIVOCALLY CONDEMN death & rape threats. Demit Oct 2017 #38
Far too many people sarisataka Oct 2017 #40
I have honest doubts that she is actually getting them. NutmegYankee Oct 2017 #51
wait... why is she worried? Locrian Oct 2017 #42
Lets recap... workinclasszero Oct 2017 #43
Wha? You mean, not a cowinkydink? ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #55
I think the NRA is taking lots of heat after the latest mass shooting workinclasszero Oct 2017 #58
Take a look at properties in Russia -- they'll have beautiful homes for you. ATL Ebony Oct 2017 #46
Good post, Comrade. maxsolomon Oct 2017 #50
Blinders and an unwillingness to deal with our own bullshit led to the tiniest hands in the world... Baconator Oct 2017 #72
Yeah, could be that. Or its a 30-year GOP strategy of purchasing the entire AM dial, maxsolomon Oct 2017 #79
You can't control what the other side is doing... Baconator Oct 2017 #81
You came here hoping to provoke that reaction maxsolomon Oct 2017 #86
Thank you ChubbyStar Oct 2017 #105
This peaceful and tolerant woman got death threats? Freethinker65 Oct 2017 #53
Reap what you have sown. theaocp Oct 2017 #63
Which women ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #67
Why is she even worried about it? Nevernose Oct 2017 #69
You know how you can identify a bullshit statement? Baconator Oct 2017 #71
Makes a good point though treestar Oct 2017 #88
Well. Blue_true Oct 2017 #65
Bookmarked Fla_Democrat Oct 2017 #74
Good call... I suspect it will come in handy in the future... Baconator Oct 2017 #76
I need to see some proof here jmowreader Oct 2017 #75
Pure unadulterated bullshit dalton99a Oct 2017 #77
Cry me a river .... LenaBaby61 Oct 2017 #78
Good to know that we dont have to believe rape/death threats if its someone unliked. Inkfreak Oct 2017 #80
This is nothing but preformance art, no different than Ann Coulter canceling her event... Snake Plissken Oct 2017 #82
Based on what? Baconator Oct 2017 #83
I know she's moving, I highly doubt it's due to any death threats. Snake Plissken Oct 2017 #84
She's a highly-paid mouthpiece for the NRA. Zero credibility. Paladin Oct 2017 #85
Do you often discount rape threats? ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #90
She should move to vegas XRubicon Oct 2017 #91
Or Vermont ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #93
Yes they are XRubicon Oct 2017 #94
So gun laws ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #95
Good news though Northern CA is expecting rain! ChubbyStar Oct 2017 #97
If gun laws are the issue ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #96
Whoop! There it is! LOL DanTex Oct 2017 #118
Been waiting for the HAMMER in this thread ChubbyStar Oct 2017 #119
I'll stand by my prior comments, thanks. Paladin Oct 2017 #123
Isn't being shot just a minor inconvenience associated with our glorious Second Amendment freedom? struggle4progress Oct 2017 #87
Says Dana "we are coming for you NY Times" Loesch? muntrv Oct 2017 #102
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2017 #106
Threats against DL or anybody else aren't acceptable Proud Liberal Dem Oct 2017 #121
I call BS awesomerwb1 Oct 2017 #126
Well, this thread was super-embarrassing for "progressives" ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #131
LOL. Actually, it's only super-embarrassing for you. DanTex Oct 2017 #133

Initech

(100,060 posts)
1. I think more websites need to follow MSN's lead and shut down comments altogether.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:08 AM
Oct 2017

The comments sections do more harm than good. If you want to comment on an article or a video, go to a forum like this one.

LisaM

(27,800 posts)
52. Or, they could have their own comments section and actually monitor it.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:29 PM
Oct 2017

They have terms of service, but they never seem to abide by them.

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
2. A false flag, likely perpetrated by the NRA.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:08 AM
Oct 2017

Seriously... I cannot believe gun control advocates threaten in this way.

It is just a high profile ploy to garner sympathy in the media, and in the sick minds of the fools who cannot let go of their toys of death.

Someone should investigate this nonsense.

It is just as believable as paid protesters.

There is no bottom to the depth of depravity that these RW fucks will fall to.



LiberalLovinLug

(14,169 posts)
132. or Russian trolls
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 02:53 PM
Oct 2017

We know that Putin is interested in fomenting rage and disruption in every way, from every position.

Scoopster

(423 posts)
4. Move out of the country, you traitor.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:09 AM
Oct 2017

I find it pleasingly ironic that this spokesperson for merchants of death is being threatened by the same death she peddles for a living.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
24. Come the hell on now....
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:08 PM
Oct 2017

Made a string of commercials all but suggesting black folks, feminists and liberals should be shot as freedom-hating traitors and now she wants to cry foul?

Besides, I bet any amount of money that she sent these "threats" to herself to inflate her own importance again...

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
26. Of course she did. These are vile filthy disgusting people.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:14 PM
Oct 2017

Gun control advocates arent threatening to kill someone.

I would love to see her without a job, but other than that, no thanks.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
36. It's called "hypocrisy"
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:45 PM
Oct 2017

Don't ramp up the violent rhetoric if you can't take it when it's directed at you... Assuming it's authentic, of course...

And I'd suggest you find another pithy retort, because "How progressive of you..." has been a trolling hallmark for long time now... I'm not calling you a troll, I'm just sayin'...

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
48. This whole thread is full of hypocrisy...
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:13 PM
Oct 2017

A woman gets threatened with rape and attacks on her children but because she is from the wrong political group she must have made it up or she deserves it.

It's bullshit and just shows that no one can claim the moral high ground because everyone seems to be super willing to jump in the mud when it's against the other guy.

It's disgusting

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
49. She's probably making it all up. Wait for a Police confirmation first.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:25 PM
Oct 2017

It's a classic right-wing tactic. Don't take anything she says seriously - she's a deranged loon with a fascist agenda.

Now if police state that she has had these types of attacks, then yes, I am disturbed.

EllieBC

(3,013 posts)
57. Wow I've heard that one before.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:44 PM
Oct 2017

Usually from those who claim rape victims are making it up. Interesting company you'll keep when it's your "enemy", eh?

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
59. The subject has a history of lying for political gain.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:47 PM
Oct 2017

It's fair to be skeptical in this case. I don't trust a twitter feed.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
61. No, it isnt
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 08:23 PM
Oct 2017

You don’t get to accuse the woman you don’t like of lying and take others you do like at their word.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
60. I know 2017 is supposed to be the bizarro "upside down" year
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 07:39 PM
Oct 2017

So DU taking the word of a Faux News/NRA shill at face value?? Par for the course, I guess....

Log in tomorrow to see DU's "Steve Bannon deserves a Pulitzer" wish thread!

Scoopster

(423 posts)
124. 100% Agree.
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 09:55 AM
Oct 2017

It may seem callous and bigoted, but it's not.

We cannot trust anything that these people say, write or do. They have proven that to us all over and over and over.

Scoopster

(423 posts)
122. Fine. Then let her prove it.
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 09:49 AM
Oct 2017

If she wants to get past the air of distrust that SHE HERSELF CREATED WITH HER OWN WORDS AND ACTIONS ADVOCATING MURDER, then let her provide proof to the proper authorities and let them take the proper action.

This isn't questioning violence against women. It's questioning the words of a proven liar, murder profiteer and propagandist.

EllieBC

(3,013 posts)
56. And I'm just saying
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:42 PM
Oct 2017

Anyone who threatens to harm children should have whatever they threaten done to them.

I don't care who it is. Kids are off limits. Unless you're a nasty perverted pig like Trump.

rainin

(3,010 posts)
128. I'm not sure why your having problems
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 02:07 PM
Oct 2017

understanding the hypocrisy argument. The left advocates for personal/public safety and we're ignored. Now she wants personal safety? Yea, lady, we've been trying to tell you!

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
73. Yes, she did
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:43 PM
Oct 2017

I commented on a vid Loesch made for the NRA. It was a disgusting piece of propaganda which basically called for armed rebellion against Trump's detractors, liberals in particular, those evil, coastal elites. What really pissed me off is she made all gun owners sound like goons ready to hit the streets and shoot things up. She doesn't represent me or the vast majority of responsible gun owners who support sensible and effective gun regulation. The NRA has lost membership over their fringe positions. Gun manufacturers have lost revenue from reduced sales. How do you boost profits? Oh yeah, call for an armed rebellion, that's the ticket. These people are shameless. As if we haven't had enough tragedy and blood.

Though I don't approve of threatening anyone with violence, there is an irony here: if you instill hatefulness, you're likely to get hatefulness back. Doesn't take a genius to know that. Too bad Loesch thought she was immune to the very swill she was peddling. You get what you put out. Lesson learned. Or not.

Scoopster

(423 posts)
127. Yes, it is.
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 02:05 PM
Oct 2017

The way in which you defend a NRA spokesperson and their murder-driven agenda without any reservation is very like him.

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
130. I believe people should have their free speech...
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 02:17 PM
Oct 2017

... and my judgment as to whether or not they should or should not be physically threatened is not dependant on that speech.

Girard442

(6,067 posts)
129. I haven't sunk so low I'd actually celebrate an arsonist getting third degree burns...
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 02:13 PM
Oct 2017

...but I wouldn't get all that teary about it either.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
39. I'll call BS on that all day long
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:48 PM
Oct 2017

She's pretty fragile and easily rattled for a heavily armed wannabe badass, isn't she? If there was a genuine threat, I'd have thought she'd be out trying to gat somebody in a pre-emptive attack?

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
44. Women get raped, or threatened with rape, men say they're lying. Nothing new there.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:45 PM
Oct 2017

Even amongst progressives, I see.

Yes, when you get anonymous threats it can rattle you, because you don't know where to look. You don't know where it's coming from. That would hold true for women or men.

Suggesting that anybody, woman or man, would go out and try to "gat" somebody preemptively is a pretty unhinged thing to say, in my view. It's so full of hate. Are you actually serious?

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
47. Um... If DUers are taking Dana Fuckin' Loesch at her word
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 05:23 PM
Oct 2017

then "progressives" have MUCH bigger problems than me right now... Seriously, what happened to this place?

Oh, I see where Dana's imaginary stalkers messed up -- What they SHOULD have fucking done was threaten to pass some gun control legislation! You can bet your sweet ass that ol' Dana would've raised up with her fingers on both triggers...

All jokes aside, you *DO* know who Dana Fuckin' Loesch is, and how she conducts herself online, right? You *HAVE* seen her disgusting neo-fascist ad campaign, right?? The average NRA "patriot" jacks off every night hoping someone who looks like me will be walking down his street one evening so he can shoot that person without cause and be a "hero"... And yet somehow I'm the one who's "unhinged"? I'm the bad guy here? I'm the last sane motherfucking person I know!

I'll stop here before I say something I'll momentarily regret. Just put me on ignore since I've committed some grave offense against your dainty sensibilities, and I'll do the same since you saw fit to call me "unhinged"... I've got bigger fish to fry anyway.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
64. What you just said is an example of what women fear.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 08:48 PM
Oct 2017

If a woman doesn't "conduct herself" properly, it's okay to threaten her with rape.

I know who Dana Loesch is. I've seen her videos. They're disgusting. And I still say that it's VERY possible to take her at her word, because I see the contempt & hate, from supposed progressives, just in this thread.

Women have a lot to be afraid of, always. Men always threaten women with rape because men are physically stronger than women, and it's how they can best show their contempt for women.

XRubicon

(2,212 posts)
92. "Men always threaten women with rape because men are physically stronger than women"
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 06:16 PM
Oct 2017

I am a man. What are you accusing me of?

 

moda253

(615 posts)
5. I honestly don't give two shits.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:10 AM
Oct 2017

Cry me a fucking river. The NRA has helped create a reality where we literally have to be concerned that we might be brutally gunned down if we go to a movie, a concert, or any number of public events.

Fuck her. We all live in fear now. And she helped to promote that shit.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
6. I've seen her commercials I thought she was doing that herself(death threats) maybe I have the
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:13 AM
Oct 2017

wrong woman. None of its right btw but starting with her though...

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
8. So why aren't the "gun control advocates" doing the same thing to Wayne LaPierre?
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:22 AM
Oct 2017

Something sounds fishy here.

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
11. Wayne LaPierre is rich...
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:45 AM
Oct 2017

... and likely has a full-time security force and property to match.

This woman is a mid-tier PR exec. Also, she's a woman and that tends to bring out the internet trolls exponentially...

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
15. That occurred to me
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:56 AM
Oct 2017

Guns being the panacea for all that ails an individual and society, why isn't Ms. Loesch laying in a bigger supply of shootin' arns instead of whining about alleged death threats? Is the NRA chiseling her and she can't afford more guns and ammo? If she's capable of self reflection, now might be a good time for her to re-evaluate some of her life choices.

sarisataka

(18,570 posts)
13. Any threats such of sexual
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:50 AM
Oct 2017

Or physical violence should be unequivocally condemned; it is a sorry sign when that does not happen on a progressives site.

If Chelsea Clinton accepts that the threats have been made, I will not call her a liar.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
31. I keep writing this over and over again but I keep stopping and starting
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:26 PM
Oct 2017

Thank you for posting this. The sheer hypocrisy is fucking outrageous and deeply disgusting

sarisataka

(18,570 posts)
34. What is especially disturbing
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:38 PM
Oct 2017

Is the contrasting attitude in this thread with all the threads of women's experience in Hollywood and elsewhere.

Apparently we can only support women we agree with when they come forward. If we disagree with their position they must be lying or deserve such treatment.

Funny (not ha ha) thing is those attitudes are exactly what the women coming forward now say is what kept them silent for years.

tymorial

(3,433 posts)
41. Definitely.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:18 PM
Oct 2017

Fear of being shamed, disbelieved or having your life ruined by someone in power all contribute to silence from victims of sexual abuse and sexual violence. The woman who was raped at a party or bar was asking for it... The adolescent and/or pre-adolescent boy who was prayed upon by an older woman somehow hit the lottery... the men and women in prison who are raped every day by other inmates and/or guards are disposable so who cares... the men who have been raped by other men or women well men can't be raped and if they were sexually assaulted or coerced into sex by a woman under threat of rape (happened to me) well all men want sex all the time anyway so nothing bad happened? Its fucking gross.

No one is disposable and no one should have to fear shame. I expect more from the people here but maybe to some, the only people that matter are those who "think the right way"

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
70. I was disgusted by the comments in the original page...
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:26 PM
Oct 2017

... and this thread turned into an extension of the same.

edbermac

(15,937 posts)
14. I assume she notified the proper authorities.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:53 AM
Oct 2017

Police, FBI, etc. Right Dana?

Or was it Sherlock Holmes? Barney Fife? Robocop?

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
16. Rape threats only happen to left aligned folks?
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:57 AM
Oct 2017

Is that what you are saying?

For those on the right it's obvious they were asking for it or made it up?

edbermac

(15,937 posts)
17. I'm asking for proof that these threats were made.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:00 PM
Oct 2017

If she didn't notify law enforcement then I have my doubts.

If threats were indeed made, then whoever did belongs in jail.

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
18. How would she prove to the general public...
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:40 PM
Oct 2017

... That someone had called her personal phone and made threats?

If you wouldn't expect a phone bill, recorded call and police report on Twitter for someone you do agree with then you need to make sure you are being honest.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
19. In one of her tweets
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:42 PM
Oct 2017

She stated that "I’m grateful that my kids’ school worked with law enforcement and private security to ensure campus safety, and work with me," so that sounds like she reported them.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
20. Don't know if it surprises me
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 12:47 PM
Oct 2017

But it certainly is disappointing to see "progressives" peddling "false flag" BS that I would expect from Alex Jones, or even worse saying that they don't give "two shits" that some assholes threatened a woman's children and threatened to rape her to death. Appalling and disgusting comments on here.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
89. What does that tweet have to do
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 05:59 PM
Oct 2017

With folks on DU excusing death threats to children? Or saying that they don't "give a shit" about threats to rape a woman to death? Are you saying she deserves it? That's awfully progressive of you.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
99. Thats what I figured
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:38 PM
Oct 2017

Is how you defend threats to rape a woman to death? There was a time when folks on DU took the high road, but it appears the Trump has dragged everyone into the gutter.

On edit, Dan from Texas, are you excusing the rape threats because of her tweets?

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
100. The only person defending a serial sexual assaulter here is the NRA spokeswoman.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:42 PM
Oct 2017

And for some reason, you are defending her defense of Trump. There was a time... LOL.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
104. LOL. The only one avoiding questions is you.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:49 PM
Oct 2017

But here, I'll give you another chance. What do you think of her defense of Trump's sexual assaults?

My prediction: you won't answer. Let's see what happens.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
108. Dan, are you going to focus
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:57 PM
Oct 2017

On the issues in this thread? We can start another one that is easier for you if that’s your preference

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
111. That's exactly what I'm doing. Violence against women is a problem even
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:07 PM
Oct 2017

when it's directed at someone other than an NRA spokeswoman with a long track record of dishonesty. It's bizarre how you're trying to avoid the topic. Hmm....

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
103. What part of this story is about defending Trump
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:47 PM
Oct 2017

I don’t see anything in the original post or linked article about Trump. Dan from Texas, did I miss something?

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
107. The tweet that I posted is about defending Trump. Are you pretending you didn't see it?
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 08:52 PM
Oct 2017

This is getting kinda funny....

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
110. Of course it does. It's a tweet about sexual assault. And not just threats of sexual assault,
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:05 PM
Oct 2017

the actual act of sexual assault. I can see that it's inconvenient for you to discuss it, but the fact that you'd rather pretend it didn't happen doesn't make it go away.

Sorry.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
112. I know this is a tough topic for you
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:09 PM
Oct 2017

But I’ll ask again, and give you a chance to redeem yourself by rephrasing. Should progressives condemn threats to rape a woman to death?

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
113. LOL. Yet another dodge.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:15 PM
Oct 2017

What is about about this NRA spokesperson's defense of Trump that you find so difficult to condemn. I mean, even though this woman is a habitual and professional liar, progressives like Chelsea Clinton are coming to her defense.

And yet you can't bring yourself to condemn her defense of Trump's admitted sexual assaults. Kinda strange...

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
114. Got it
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:26 PM
Oct 2017

Your partisan blinders prevent you from condemning a threat to rape a woman to death or kill her kids. Good day to you Dan from Texas, and I sincerely hope you rediscover common decency.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
115. Your NRA blinders prevent you from condemning serial sexual assaults.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:32 PM
Oct 2017

And insulting me doesn't help your case.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
116. Never contributed a dime to the NRA
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:39 PM
Oct 2017

And this story isn’t about the NRA. It is about whether we should condone rape and death threats. You’ve refused to answer multiple direct questions about this issue, and I’ll ask again - should progressives condemn threats to rape a woman to death? This isn’t a trick question, and a yes or no answer will suffice Dan from Texas.

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
117. There are a lot of angles, even ones that you don't want to look at.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 09:46 PM
Oct 2017

You want to narrow in on one specific detail and avoid a much larger picture because you can't bring yourself to concede that an NRA spokesperson might not be a wonderful honest person after all. Of course death threats should be condemned, everyone agrees about that.

But not everyone agrees about Trump's serial sexual assaults. For example, Dana Loesch doesn't agree. I wonder where you stand on her defense of his, but I think anyone reading can pretty easily infer the answer from your refusal to touch the subject. And that goes a long way towards explaining why you are attacking DUers with such enthusiasm.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
21. Attack the messenger?
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 01:29 PM
Oct 2017

She's a PR person. Yes, she's nasty as can be, but she doesn't pull any weight. These facts make all this highly suspect.

rockfordfile

(8,701 posts)
27. You would think she would be living in Mississippi
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:15 PM
Oct 2017

California actually tries to make it safer to deal with the gun nuts. It seems she likes to live in a place that fights for safer gun regulations.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
30. Anyone identified with any issue in the media gets this stuff
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:25 PM
Oct 2017

And it has nothing to do with their position on anything.

It is simply how some people have “fun”.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
32. Take a good look at this evil fascist that says the NRA is coming for all of us to the left of
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:27 PM
Oct 2017

Attila the Hun.



 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
54. Totally agree
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:32 PM
Oct 2017

I'm a democrat and a gun owner.

Anyone who pays dues to the NRA is a fascist and part of a right wing terror organization IMO.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
66. No I was responding to a specific video and a specific post.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 09:24 PM
Oct 2017

I did not condone any threats. I think they are an evil organization nonetheless and the antithesis of progressive vslues.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
33. I think any threats are horrible
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:28 PM
Oct 2017

but I will also say (not justifying physical threats) that the NRA is fueling the culture war that is dividing this country and making everything so emotional.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
37. I'm sure this is an NRA stunt..a false flag
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:45 PM
Oct 2017

They were probably moving for the usual reasons and decided to get a shot in against those ultra violent gun control advocates.

 

Demit

(11,238 posts)
38. I can't believe that DU members would not UNEQUIVOCALLY CONDEMN death & rape threats.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 02:46 PM
Oct 2017

I don't care who they're against, or how vile a person Dana Loesch is.

A lot of people here better reexamine why they call themselves progressive, and compassionate. Because they sound very vicious and mean-spirited to me.

sarisataka

(18,570 posts)
40. Far too many people
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:05 PM
Oct 2017

Have morals and ethics that turn out to be quite situational. That which is abhorrent in one case is acceptable in another.

Sadly, as we see here, it is not limited to one side of the political spectrum.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
51. I have honest doubts that she is actually getting them.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:29 PM
Oct 2017

This is a person with a history of lying for political gain. Threats of sexual violence are never OK, but without actual reports from police, I am hesitant to accept this.

Locrian

(4,522 posts)
42. wait... why is she worried?
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:31 PM
Oct 2017

Doesn't she own a gun or 10? I though just having a gun makes you safe as a baby in his mothers arms? Huh?

(not that I think this is anything but a publicity stunt)

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
43. Lets recap...
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 03:44 PM
Oct 2017

Crazed gunman with NRA approved bump stock military assault weapon arsenal opens fire on crowd in LV slaughtering 50 plus and injuring hundreds more.

Crazed right wing spokes person for the NRA suddenly has to move because peaceful gun control advocates are threatening her with bodily harm.

Uh..yeah....sure.

Nothing to see here folks, that poor nazi NRA woman that made the vile, hateful and violent video screed against the left is as pure as the driven snow obviously!

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
58. I think the NRA is taking lots of heat after the latest mass shooting
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:45 PM
Oct 2017

Not to mention that they were ramming legalized silencers for guns through Congress at the same time as the LV mass murder.

A little diversion from those facts huh NRA?

It's funny that the gun humping NRA is trying to make gun control advocates out to be the violent ones LOL

Classic right wing projection, assholes.

maxsolomon

(33,284 posts)
50. Good post, Comrade.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 06:27 PM
Oct 2017

Please keep up this important work of calling out Liberal Hypocrisy on a Liberal Board.

& Welcome to DU. I must have missed your earlier posts.

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
72. Blinders and an unwillingness to deal with our own bullshit led to the tiniest hands in the world...
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:29 PM
Oct 2017

... with launch codes.

Get smarter or get ready for more of the same...

maxsolomon

(33,284 posts)
79. Yeah, could be that. Or its a 30-year GOP strategy of purchasing the entire AM dial,
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 01:05 PM
Oct 2017

and filling it with specious propaganda rife with callous disregard for human suffering that has raised divisions to a boiling point.

Until Loesch contacts the cops and they back her up, skepticism regarding the claims of a hyperbolic gun-rights propagandist is a rational response. It strains credulity that this is the 1st time she's had a Death Threat.

If some nutcase threatened her, that's terrible. Find them and prosecute them. Its not exactly uncommon these days - ask any Feminist or BLM activist with a public profile.

It's not my bullshit any more than Unabomber's was mine.

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
81. You can't control what the other side is doing...
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 04:42 PM
Oct 2017

We have the old saying "The enemy gets a vote too..."

No one is asking you to take a deep personal interest in it or send her moving money... You and others in this thread though could stand to be a little bit less smug and gleeful at her predicament.

maxsolomon

(33,284 posts)
86. You came here hoping to provoke that reaction
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 05:51 PM
Oct 2017

And you got it. Now you get to scold the Left for not living up to the ideal of MLK or Gandhi. or Baconator.

I'm not smug or gleeful about death threats; like others, I find it ironic, given her business is propagandizing for death.

I am also skeptical, of both her and of you.

theaocp

(4,235 posts)
63. Reap what you have sown.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 08:30 PM
Oct 2017

No sympathy and no proof these are from anyone aligned with gun control. Maybe she should arm up.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
69. Why is she even worried about it?
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:23 PM
Oct 2017

Last edited Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:35 PM - Edit history (1)

Hasn’t she said a thousand times that her guns will protect her? That rape & crime prevention is what guns are for?

No one, EVER, deserves rape threats. Or threats of any kind, for that matter.

The fact that she claims to be moving because of them means she’s a liar: she either didn’t get the threats or her precious guns can’t protect her.

(Edit for decisiveness.)

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
71. You know how you can identify a bullshit statement?
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 10:28 PM
Oct 2017

When they make an absolute claim using words like EVER or NEVER and then follow it up with a BUT...

treestar

(82,383 posts)
88. Makes a good point though
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 05:57 PM
Oct 2017

Why move when you have the guns to protect yourself, pursuant to your Second Amendment rights?

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
65. Well.
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 09:21 PM
Oct 2017

The way she talks you would have thought that she would meet them in a street at high noon is full Tac gear toting an AK on each arm.

Making death threats is not cool, losers do that. But that woman is a bullying loudmouth and need to resign and go away.

Fla_Democrat

(2,547 posts)
74. Bookmarked
Tue Oct 17, 2017, 11:18 PM
Oct 2017

I didn't learn anything new, but every now and then I like to look back over some very telling replies and remind myself.









jmowreader

(50,552 posts)
75. I need to see some proof here
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 12:43 AM
Oct 2017

This is exactly the kind of false flag crap the hard right and their Russian controllers specialize in.

Inkfreak

(1,695 posts)
80. Good to know that we dont have to believe rape/death threats if its someone unliked.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 04:14 PM
Oct 2017

This thread is shit.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
82. This is nothing but preformance art, no different than Ann Coulter canceling her event...
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 04:45 PM
Oct 2017

and then claiming she was not allowed to speak.

Baconator

(1,459 posts)
83. Based on what?
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 04:53 PM
Oct 2017

Do you think she's really not moving? She is moving but never received a threat?

Would you be equally as skeptical and demanding if it was Huma Abedin or Raegan McDonald-Mosley (CMO and spokesperson for planned parenthood)?

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
84. I know she's moving, I highly doubt it's due to any death threats.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 05:02 PM
Oct 2017

This is the same old, same old, over the past 20 years I've read enough copies of Freedom Magazine to have seen the NRA's performance art before. I used to belong to the NRA until it got too ridiculous to take seriously

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
85. She's a highly-paid mouthpiece for the NRA. Zero credibility.
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 05:05 PM
Oct 2017

Anyone who has voiced support for gun control in this country knows all too well which side regularly deals in threats of violence to support its beliefs and intimidate its opposition. No one should be fooled by this woman's theatrics.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
95. So gun laws
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 06:21 PM
Oct 2017

Are the issue in a thread about threats to kill children or rape a woman to death? I must have missed the memo.

ChubbyStar

(3,191 posts)
97. Good news though Northern CA is expecting rain!
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 07:04 PM
Oct 2017

With all the horrific fires this is good news.

Sorry posted in wrong thread.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
96. If gun laws are the issue
Wed Oct 18, 2017, 06:23 PM
Oct 2017

What do you think about the fact that Vermont's gun laws are more liberal than Nevada's?

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
123. I'll stand by my prior comments, thanks.
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 09:52 AM
Oct 2017

It's pretty obvious, the sort of agenda you're toting on this thread. Nobody's fooled.

Response to Baconator (Original post)

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,402 posts)
121. Threats against DL or anybody else aren't acceptable
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 09:45 AM
Oct 2017

that goes for Ms. Loesch as well in terms of the veiled threats that she has made against NRA opponents and liberals as part of her role as NRA spokesperson.

awesomerwb1

(4,267 posts)
126. I call BS
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 02:03 PM
Oct 2017

Actually bigly BS. She was probably moving anyway so they're using that to just stoke the fire shortly after the Vegas massacre.



 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
131. Well, this thread was super-embarrassing for "progressives"
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 02:33 PM
Oct 2017

And shows that some of us aren't any better than Alex Jones and his ilk. Seems that if you disagree with Loesch's politics she either "deserves" to be raped or is lying. Hillary would be proud!

Interesting opinion piece on this issue - [link:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/treatening-dana-loesch-isnt-funny-or-noble-it-is_us_59e67d65e4b0e60c4aa36610|

DanTex

(20,709 posts)
133. LOL. Actually, it's only super-embarrassing for you.
Thu Oct 19, 2017, 09:54 PM
Oct 2017

You joined DU right after a gun massacre and immediately started attacking long-time members and pushing NRA talking points.
Did you really think people weren't going to figure you out? (BTW, thanks for linking to an article by a Trump supporter, it clears up any possible remaining ambiguity as to what you're doing here, but believe me, we were on to you long before that).

I look forward to seeing your next incarnation. Thanks to your pals at the NRA, there's sure to be another mass shooting before too long. So you probably want to start thinking about what screen name you are going to use for that one.

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