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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsEven If Trump Goes We Get Pence. He Is Just As Nuts Really. No Way To Win.
Pence is just as mean and hateful as Trump. What is bad if Trump leaves we get a raging theocrat. The radical Christian will be overjoyed and ecstatic.
Then next in line is Ryan. Damn the whole damn cabinet in line is a bunch of evil bastards.
Mediumsizedhand
(531 posts)JCMach1
(27,553 posts)He is probably worse..
Amishman
(5,553 posts)Gotta get both out when the time comes
Mediumsizedhand
(531 posts)that is more the norm for a President that Trump is not. I doubt he will call a woman who just lost her husband in battle, and tell her, her husband knew what he was getting into. Trump is not going to slow down or stop anything Pence and the others want, but he adds a whole other mix of crazy to the Administration.
JCMach1
(27,553 posts)Direction.
What he isn't is a basically toxic person like Trump is...
Mediumsizedhand
(531 posts)yortsed snacilbuper
(7,939 posts)good luck with that.
madamesilverspurs
(15,798 posts)He's nuts, but unlike Trump, that doesn't necessarily preclude intelligence. Insanity and intelligence aren't mutually exclusive. In Pence's case, he has just enough smarts to make him dangerous because his D.C. experience showed him where the buttons and levers are; he has some idea of how things work, and he's also highly malleable. Pence would inevitably prove the old dictum that a little knowledge is a very dangerous thing, indeed.
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Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)Ohiya
(2,224 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)but we need Trump to be running in 2020 to get the White House back. Pence will be like a breath of fresh air after the toxicity of the Trump administration, and we can't afford to let people feel that way. The only way we're rid of them both is by the ballot box in three more years.
In the meantime, we will have stalemate, except for executive orders. Elections have consequences, hopefully more voters will remember that next time around.
dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)There is no way, at the rate he is going he will make it to 2020. I don't think the country will survive. I don't think he will be here at this time next year, of course I didn't think he would be elected either.
customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)We survived Nixon, and even the fact that he got massively re-elected in the Electoral College. And this was all during the time the country was being torn apart by the Vietnam War.
We will survive this.
HAB911
(8,867 posts)Pence is a survivable incident, Trump is not
Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)Demsrule86
(68,456 posts)Corgigal
(9,291 posts)They had a reason, bring him up to bat.
womanofthehills
(8,657 posts)so Pence is probably involved in Russia coverup. Why else would Manafort want Pence?
Watchfoxheadexplodes
(3,496 posts)Piss, moan, whine, complain,yell, throw shit, etc.
Fox may have a meltdown.
Vinca
(50,236 posts)Our only option is to work like hell to get a Congressional majority in 2018 to hold them in check and then elect a sane person to the presidency in 2020.
Nonhlanhla
(2,074 posts)less likely to start a nuclear war.
GallopingGhost
(2,404 posts)on Alternet right now about this very topic.
Pence is as radical and as dumb. He just hides it better behind an emotionless seemingly calm veneer.
Dirty Socialist
(3,252 posts)Pence is widely known to be heavily supported by the Koch brothers.