The Rude Pundit: Oh, Just Fuck Off, John Kelly

[babylonsister]

http://rudepundit.blogspot.ca/2017/10/oh-just-fuck-off-john-kelly.html
The Rude Pundit
Proudly lowering the level of political discourse
10/20/2017
Oh, Just Fuck Off, John Kelly

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But I'm saying, "Oh, just fuck off" to John Kelly for a couple of reasons.

First, he should fuck off for talking about how Gold Star families (those who lost someone in battle) are no longer sacred because "I think that left in the convention over the summer." He is probably invoking the Khan family, who criticized Trump at the Democratic Convention, and not Patricia Smith, who lost her son in the Benghazi attack and called Hillary a murderer, more or less, at the Republican Convention.

And Kelly should fuck off because in the rest of his fucked-up appearance he completely politicized Gold Star families - who, it should be noted, often politicize themselves in honor of their lost loved ones. He ignored that the president didn't treat those families as sacred when he attacked the Khans. That didn't fucking crop up in his obsequious fluffing of Trump. As if to make his point clear about who he values, Kelly took a couple of questions but only from reporters who are in Gold Star families or are related to them.

Then he pretty much said that you're an asshole if you don't serve in the military: "We don't look down upon those of you who that haven't served. In fact, in a way we're a little bit sorry because you'll have never have experienced the wonderful joy you get in your heart when you do the kinds of things our service men and women do -- not for any other reason than they love this country. So just think of that."

To which one can only say, "Fuck off. There are so many ways to serve your country and your community that don't involve the military and how fucking dare you diminish those."

Even more, John Kelly can fuck off because of what I started with here. Kelly said he was so upset that Rep. Wilson said mean things about Donald Trump (by, you know, quoting Donald Trump) that he had to take a walk. So, as one does, he went to Arlington National Cemetery, and "I went over there for an hour-and-a-half, walked among the stones, some of whom I put there because they were doing what I told them to do when they were killed."

What were they doing under his orders? Fighting in a bullshit war in Iraq, where Kelly had various commands, up to being in charge of the whole damn show in 2008. Yeah, Kelly led men to die for nothing. And so many in the military know that they were it was a war for nothing. Oh, he could have retired, but he didn't. Which means he believed in the bullshit war and sent soldiers to die for bullshit. I'm pretty fucking sure they didn't sign up for that.

But let's go even further here because, you know, if you're gonna tell someone to "Fuck off," you may as well go all the way. One of Kelly's sons died in combat. He usually doesn't talk about it because it's horrific and personal and why should he. But Trump dragged the corpse of Kelly's son into this shitpool. And Kelly brought him up yesterday. Kelly's son died in Afghanistan in 2010 in a war that should never have been started and was fucked up from the start by President Bush and it wasn't even unfucked by President Obama. Like every other soldier in this war, he died for nothing because he shouldn't have been there in the first place. Kelly's younger son is now on his fifth tour of duty in Afghanistan.

Yeah, John Kelly walked out in front of the world yesterday to announce that he is just another piss whore in Trump's bed, and he'll willingly degrade himself and his family in order to stay there.

(Note: I support the troops so much that I don't want them to have to fight because some politician needs to prove that a think-tank's position on democracy or terrorism is correct. I want them to defend us and defend our allies. And, yes, I have family in the military. I don't want them to die for bullshit.)

[smirkymonkey]

1. Bravo!

[maxsolomon]

2. On the mark again

The worship of the military in this country is beyond the pale. Our Defense Budget bloats the Deficit but it can't be questioned. Veterans are used as a shield to discredit and attack the patriotism of critics of our Militarism. "Support the Troops" means "STFU, Hippy".

"How do you ask a man to be the last one to die for a mistake?" - John Kerry, 1971, and as true today as ever.

[SunSeeker]

3. Kelly is much worse than "just another piss whore in Trump's bed."

Piss whores don't go around glorifying sending kids off to die in pointless wars.

[dalton99a]

7. Indeed.

[Snake Plissken]

4. One point he missed is how Ambassador Stevens family begged Trump to stop politicizing his death

And Trump flat out refused and kept right on using his death to attack Hillary at his rallies.

[SunSeeker]

8. Yes, I remember that. It was revolting.

[lunatica]

5. I wasn't sure how I felt about John Kelly until yesterday. I'm sure now though

He talked about the military being the best people in the world. What? The rest of us are what? measly civilians who deserve no consideration?

He talked about the Congresswoman in terrible terms, as if he thinks Congress people are not fit to have relationships with military families.

I felt like he'd slapped us all in the face.

And the one thing that I thought was the worst was when he told Trump to talk to a dead marine's wife as if she were a Marine like him. The Marine friend of his told him of his son's death, but he was talking to a General as one Marine to another, and it was OK to talk about what his son knew going into the service. No wife or mother or children should be talked to that way.

His superiority complex was in full display.

[world wide wally]

6. Well said, Rude

[treestar]

9. Awesome!

One thing about the way they act like we have to bow down before anyone who was in the military is that we pay to support them - we are part of it too. Without our being able to feed them, fly them places, this country would be defeated anyway, no matter how valiant they claim to be. And if they are "serving" us, they should not be looking down on us or insisting we agree with the politicians who send us to what we believe to be useless laws.

And Iraq was not necessary to our defense. It was to line the pockets of Halliburton. The Rs are even privatizing the military and the vultures swooped down to get the chance for the contracts.