to john kelly--you fucking, misogynistic, racist POS. Women have NEVER been "honoured"

[niyad]

in this country, are STILL not "honoured" in this country.

whatever the hell you are smoking, inhaling, or imbibing, put it down, because you have NO fucking clue what the HELL you are yammering.

[maveric]

1. Kick

[get the red out]

2. Honored, right

Owned and controlled!

[Irish_Dem]

3. He is just parroting the beliefs of the good ole boy network

Fairly standard stuff for them.
He is probably surprised that people don't like it.
Has always worked for him before.

[appleannie1943]

4. He is talking about the days when women were the property of their husbands.

In his view that is treating them as being sacred. You know, like a cow raised to be sacrificed on the alter of matrimony. Where a man could treat her however the hell he wanted and she had to smile and be a vessel to incubate his offspring for the world.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

10. Not just incubate, but then give up everything else

So she can devote herself fully to the important task.

Hopefully the husband provides the means necessary to do that. If not? Oh well, guess she and the kids aren't so sacred.

[appleannie1943]

11. Another role for many women back then was punching bag

so their husbands could beat out their frustrations on them. I have even seen families where the mother of 8 fed her kids and herself on a pound of ground meat, day old bread and a can of applesauce while her husband ate steak, baked potato and salad every night. He had a car, they had to walk everywhere they went. All of which makes me wonder how Kelly treats his own wife.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

31. jeeeezzus..... :( That's horrible!

Yes, a punching bag for the husband. Ugh, there's no lack of that, still.

[appleannie1943]

32. At least now the police can arrest and charge the husband if there are marks on the woman.

Up until the 80's the woman had to press the charges. That rarely happened because they A. could not get a job that paid enough to support their families. B. Knew the next beating would be worse when he got out and that was usually in a day or two and C. Women had been brainwashed to believe that if their husbands beat them, it was because they had done something wrong.

[DURHAM D]

5. Never forget...

the military structure has always promoted this "hero" version of themselves. Bet he came undone when they allowed women into the academies.

If he was the guy "protecting" me because he hates me he can go f himself and take the relics with him.

[TheBlackAdder]

6. Sure they have. If you talk to Republicans, they would say, "Get Honor and Stay Honor!"

[Laffy Kat]

26. That would be "git" not "get".

[treestar]

7. They certainly are not honored by

the pussy grabber in chief that he works for. He does have to be smoking something.

[mercuryblues]

8. You are right

women were not held "sacred" If they were raped the were called sluts and whores for reporting it. If their husband beat them, they were asked what they did to provoke it. If there husband wanted a new woman, he could have the wife committed on his word alone. A woman could not own her own home. She could not take out a loan without a male's signature. If her husband died, she was kicked out of the home "because she couldn't afford it on her own." Even if there was enough cash in the bank to pay the mortgage, her brother in-law got control of it. She had to beg for money to buy food from him. She had better hope the brother in-law was a decent chap and give her money at all.

Yeah those are the "sacred" days women long for.

[niyad]

9. too bad kelly cannot come back as a "sacred" woman.

[mercuryblues]

16. I know what I would do with his sacredness

[niyad]

18. snort!!!

[defacto7]

12. With that attitude you're never going to get him

to invite you to a potluck dinner at his church. That's for sure.

[niyad]

15. thankfully, missing that pot luck isn't going to bother me in the least.

who knows what he would do to the meal.

[maxsolomon]

13. Maybe Kelly was born in the Future

and has time-travelled back to this era.

Hey, what do I know?

[Chemisse]

14. John Kelly was totally right about the attitude towards women. Back in the 1960s and before,

The good girls were honored (doors held open for them, put on a pedestal, etc) but they were not respected (be quiet and look pretty while whipping up meals and tending the home). The 'little woman' was a prized possession and shown off like a shiny car. Of course she wasn't supposed to 'worry her pretty little head' about things like finances or politics.

The bad girls were treated like crap. That category included all women who did not care to fulfill all the duties required to be 'honored' by men. These were the ones it was a-okay to rape, then say they asked for it. These were the women who were called sluts and whores and spoken of with disgust (all while the men who had sex with these 'whores' were fully respected).

These are the days John Kelly wishes for. He probably has no clue that women would far rather be treated equally than be 'honored'.

[niyad]

17. his version of "honour" I can easily do without.

[snowybirdie]

28. Bravo

Well said! I almost lost my teeth when I heard him say that. And also the part about "respecting life". Another dog whistle

[Chemisse]

30. I don't think younger people are aware of the old 'lady on a pedestal' form of female repression.

So many missed or misunderstood that reference.

If only we ALL could forget it.

[JI7]

36. And That's how He Excuses Trump's Pussy Grabbing. those women/girls were whores that deserved it in

his view.

[Chemisse]

37. Exactly. n/t

[SunSeeker]

19. K & R

[IronLionZion]

20. They want to make America great again

literally campaigned on taking us backwards. And people voted for it.

[niyad]

21. and that is what I will never forgive, or forget.

[smirkymonkey]

22. If there is such a thing as reincarnation, then may both John Kelly and Donald Trump come

back as impoverished, disabled, minority lesbians in the 1950's.

[niyad]

24. works for me.

[boston bean]

23. Old misogynist fool.

[niyad]

25. to say the least.

[jrthin]

27. AMEN!!!! nt

[Gothmog]

29. From Betty Bowers

Link to tweet

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[KY_EnviroGuy]

33. Such hypocrisy, considering the way many women are treated in the military!

[appleannie1943]

34. Here is a real guide of how to be a "good" wife in the fifties. Many magazines had articles on just

what was expected of a wife. These were the "sacred" women.


1.) Have dinner ready. Plan ahead, even the night before, to have a delicious meal ready, on time for his return. This is a way of letting him know that you have been thinking about him and are concerned about his needs.

2.) Most men are hungry when they come home and the prospect of a good meal (especially his favorite dish) is part of the warm welcome needed.

1950s Good Housewife Guide
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3.) Prepare yourself. Take 15 minutes to rest so you’ll be refreshed when he arrives. Touch up your makeup, put a ribbon in your hair and be fresh-looking. He has just been with a lot of work-weary people.

4.) Be a little gay and a little more interesting for him. His boring day may need a lift and one of your duties is to provide it.

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5.) Clear away the clutter. Make one last trip through the main part of the house just before your husband arrives. Gather up schoolbooks, toys, paper, etc. and then run a dust cloth over the tables.

1950s Good Housewife Guide
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6.) Over the cooler months of the year you should prepare and light a fire for him to unwind by. Your husband will feel he has reached a haven of rest and order, and it will give you a lift too. After all, catering for his comfort will provide you with immense personal satisfaction.

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7.) Prepare the children. Take a few minutes to wash the children’s hands and faces (if they are small), comb their hair and, if necessary, change their clothes.

8.) Children are little treasures and he would like to see them playing the part. Minimize all noise. At the time of his arrival, eliminate all noise of the washer, dryer or vacuum. Try to encourage the children to be quiet.

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9.) Be happy to see him. Free him with a warm smile and show sincerity in your desire to please him. Listen to him.

10.) You may have a dozen important things to tell him, but the moment of his arrival is not the time. Let him talk first — remember, his topics of conversation are more important than yours.

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11.) Make the evening his. Never complain if he comes home late or goes out to dinner, or other places of entertainment without you. Instead, try to understand his world of strain and pressure and his very real need to be at home and relax.

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12.) Your goal: Try to make sure your home is a place of peace, order and tranquility where you husband can renew himself in body and spirit.

13.) Don’t greet him with complaints and problems.

1950s Good Housewife Guide
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14.) Don’t complain if he’s late home for dinner or even if he stays out all night. Count this as minor compared to what he might have gone through that day.

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15.) Make him comfortable. Have him lean back in a comfortable chair or have him lie down in the bedroom. Have a cool or warm drink ready for him.

16.) Arrange his pillow and offer to take off his shoes. Speak in a low, soothing and pleasant voice.

1950s Good Housewife Guide
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17.) Don’t ask him questions about his actions or question his judgment of integrity. Remember, he is the master of the house and as such will always exercise his will with fairness and truthfulness. You have no right to question him.

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18.) A good wife always knows her place. The above are not a joke. Women were all supposed to be Harriet Nelsons. Another thing was a "good sacred wife" would greet him with his favorite cocktail when he got home from work because he had had worked so hard all day to provide for her.

I really don't know how my marriage has lasted 51 years. I rarely did any of the above. Especially when it came to our 7 kids. He helped to make them so I figured he should help to take care of them.

[niyad]

41. here, in song:

Wives and Lovers
Frank Sinatra, Count Basie
Hey, little girl, comb your hair, fix your make-up
Soon he will open the door
Don't think because there's a ring on your finger
You needn't try any more
For wives should always be lovers too
Run to his arms the moment he comes home to you
I'm warning you
Day after day, there are girls at the office
And the men will always be men
Don't stand him up with your hair still in curlers
You may not see him again
Wives should always be lovers too
Run to his arms the moment he comes home to you
He's almost here
Hey, little girl, better wear something pretty
Something you wear to go to the city
Dim all the lights, pour the wine, start the music
Time to get ready for love
It's time to get ready for love
Yes, it's time to get ready for love
It's time to get ready, kick your shoes off, baby

[appleannie1943]

42. And here I sit, in pj's, soaking my sore foot while hubby empties the dishwasher.

Guess I have been doing it wrong for over 50 years. I might be nice and bake him an apple pie when my foot feels better. We'll see.

[niyad]

43. no, you have been doing it absolutely correctly!!! hope your foot is better soon.!

save us some of the apple pie, please???

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

35. Ah yes, the myth of the benevolent patriarchy.

Can't believe we're still hearing that rotten old chestnut.

[MoonRiver]

38. Damn straight!

And the most offensive misogynist in this country is the POS he works for!

[niyad]

40. . . .