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kpete

(71,985 posts)
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 10:09 AM Oct 2017

Rude Pundit: Oh, Just Fuck Off, John Kelly

10/20/2017

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...........Kelly took his career and any respectability he had, which he had already handed over to Trump when he agreed to work for him in the first place, and he allowed Trump to fuck it in the ass while he cheered Trump on.


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First, he should fuck off for talking about how Gold Star families (those who lost someone in battle) are no longer sacred because "I think that left in the convention over the summer." He is probably invoking the Khan family, who criticized Trump at the Democratic Convention, and not Patricia Smith, who lost her son in the Benghazi attack and called Hillary a murderer, more or less, at the Republican Convention.

And Kelly should fuck off because in the rest of his fucked-up appearance he completely politicized Gold Star families - who, it should be noted, often politicize themselves in honor of their lost loved ones. He ignored that the president didn't treat those families as sacred when he attacked the Khans. That didn't fucking crop up in his obsequious fluffing of Trump. As if to make his point clear about who he values, Kelly took a couple of questions but only from reporters who are in Gold Star families or are related to them.

Then he pretty much said that you're an asshole if you don't serve in the military: "We don't look down upon those of you who that haven't served. In fact, in a way we're a little bit sorry because you'll have never have experienced the wonderful joy you get in your heart when you do the kinds of things our service men and women do -- not for any other reason than they love this country. So just think of that."

To which one can only say, "Fuck off. There are so many ways to serve your country and your community that don't involve the military and how fucking dare you diminish those."

Even more, John Kelly can fuck off because of what I started with here. Kelly said he was so upset that Rep. Wilson said mean things about Donald Trump (by, you know, quoting Donald Trump) that he had to take a walk. So, as one does, he went to Arlington National Cemetery, and "I went over there for an hour-and-a-half, walked among the stones, some of whom I put there because they were doing what I told them to do when they were killed."

What were they doing under his orders? Fighting in a bullshit war in Iraq, where Kelly had various commands, up to being in charge of the whole damn show in 2008. Yeah, Kelly led men to die for nothing. And so many in the military know that they were it was a war for nothing. Oh, he could have retired, but he didn't. Which means he believed in the bullshit war and sent soldiers to die for bullshit. I'm pretty fucking sure they didn't sign up for that.

But let's go even further here because, you know, if you're gonna tell someone to "Fuck off," you may as well go all the way. One of Kelly's sons died in combat. He usually doesn't talk about it because it's horrific and personal and why should he. But Trump dragged the corpse of Kelly's son into this shitpool. And Kelly brought him up yesterday. Kelly's son died in Afghanistan in 2010 in a war that should never have been started and was fucked up from the start by President Bush and it wasn't even unfucked by President Obama. Like every other soldier in this war, he died for nothing because he shouldn't have been there in the first place. Kelly's younger son is now on his fifth tour of duty in Afghanistan.

Yeah, John Kelly walked out in front of the world yesterday to announce that he is just another piss whore in Trump's bed, and he'll willingly degrade himself and his family in order to stay there.

(Note: I support the troops so much that I don't want them to have to fight because some politician needs to prove that a think-tank's position on democracy or terrorism is correct. I want them to defend us and defend our allies. And, yes, I have family in the military. I don't want them to die for bullshit.)

the rest:
http://rudepundit.blogspot.com/2017/10/oh-just-fuck-off-john-kelly.html

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Rude Pundit: Oh, Just Fuck Off, John Kelly (Original Post) kpete Oct 2017 OP
RP melds together two ideas that are never discussed in the same breath: Eyeball_Kid Oct 2017 #1
"Just another piss whore in Trump's bed" dalton99a Oct 2017 #2
K&R for RP !!! Martin Eden Oct 2017 #3
Hear, hear! smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #4
Wait a second! Just wait a second here. Madam Mossfern Oct 2017 #5
Cognitive dissonance doesn't bother CONservatives. n/t BlancheSplanchnik Oct 2017 #6
And yet Kelly sucks up to a five-time deferment malaise Oct 2017 #7

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
1. RP melds together two ideas that are never discussed in the same breath:
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 10:39 AM
Oct 2017

The middle east wars have no intrinsic worth for the US as a country. They are corporate wars, begun and perpetrated to stay as close to the oil wells as possible. The GOP's donors want the oil, so the military is hovering around, getting its soldiers killed and maimed, because of any possibility that a US oil firm can reap enormous profits at the drop of a hat. US dominance in any region means that foreign nationals are cut out of any wealth from their natural resources, whether done in concert with corrupt governments or not. Recent wars are therefore NOT engaged because of "national security", but for corporate profit. It's always the same. Smedley Butler's truth telling decades ago is still relevant.

So Rude's article combines the reckless push for war and foreign intervention with the value that life is sacred, and the lives of US soldiers are sacred. It's the money-motivated foreign policy that gets people killed that must stop.

Martin Eden

(12,863 posts)
3. K&R for RP !!!
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 10:42 AM
Oct 2017

He doesn't lower the national discourse -- he reveals how low it has become with Trump, Kelly, and their ilk.

Madam Mossfern

(2,340 posts)
5. Wait a second! Just wait a second here.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 10:52 AM
Oct 2017

Did Donald Trump serve in the military?
Why is Kelly working for him or even listening to him?

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