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Wonderful, a sculpture by Auguste Rodin has been discovered/identified. In New Jersey! (Original Post) CTyankee Oct 2017 OP
Amazing story. panader0 Oct 2017 #1
The story talks about that very issue. CTyankee Oct 2017 #2
Terrific, thanks, CT. And what a nice item for her resume. :) Hortensis Oct 2017 #15
I loved this story. Thanks for posting. One caveat though, while the bust is being lent Ninga Oct 2017 #3
I'm of two minds here. I like the idea of a museum because it exposes the art CTyankee Oct 2017 #5
Travelling through Europe and in particular Italy, I found the most amazing Ninga Oct 2017 #7
I did the same. Wonderful experience. i went to see della Francesca's frescoes CTyankee Oct 2017 #10
Now that the word is out, can the borough protect the thing? JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2017 #20
I appreciate your thought process Cal Carpenter Oct 2017 #9
Yes, the worry is not that the piece could be stolen (too heavy) but some crazy CTyankee Oct 2017 #11
Fabulous, yank! elleng Oct 2017 #4
Wonderful story, thanks for sharing. MLAA Oct 2017 #6
For a minute there I thought it was going to say Grammy23 Oct 2017 #8
Trump doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground, altho if someone said CTyankee Oct 2017 #12
Exactly. That is kinda what I had in mind. Grammy23 Oct 2017 #14
Trump: "Rodin? Didn't Godzilla kick Rodin's ass?" nt JustABozoOnThisBus Oct 2017 #21
Kind of off topic, but I've always be amused by this photograph of another art discovery.... Brother Buzz Oct 2017 #13
What a lovely story. Thank you. Jakes Progress Oct 2017 #16
I didn't even know Rodin did sculpture! NastyRiffraff Oct 2017 #17
Hope I didn't confuse you. "Luncheon" is by Renoir. CTyankee Oct 2017 #18
Doh! No, you didn't confuse me NastyRiffraff Oct 2017 #19
Amazing indeed malaise Oct 2017 #22

panader0

(25,816 posts)
1. Amazing story.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 12:20 PM
Oct 2017

How did no one know it was a Rodin? Since he died in 1917, the bust
had to have been there for at least 100 years.

CTyankee

(63,880 posts)
2. The story talks about that very issue.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 12:23 PM
Oct 2017

Last edited Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:31 PM - Edit history (1)

The art expert hired to go through the art seemed kinda in disbelief or afraid she'd make a mistake. But the provenance of the work puts it all together!

Ninga

(8,272 posts)
3. I loved this story. Thanks for posting. One caveat though, while the bust is being lent
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:18 PM
Oct 2017

to the museum in Philly, I hope the foundation that owns it, will see fit to return it to the borough in NJ. The history of how that building came about, plus all,of the other art work, really deserves to,have the bust returned.


CTyankee

(63,880 posts)
5. I'm of two minds here. I like the idea of a museum because it exposes the art
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:21 PM
Oct 2017

to a lot of people. However, OTOH the provenance is the borough in New Jersey. So I have sympathy for the people of New Jersey.

Ninga

(8,272 posts)
7. Travelling through Europe and in particular Italy, I found the most amazing
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:27 PM
Oct 2017

art by noted artists in history, everywhere. I found to make a pilgrimage to a little village just to see a sculpture or piece of famous art, is an entirely different experience than in a museum. The local economy typically benefits from the infusion of visitor dollars.

CTyankee

(63,880 posts)
10. I did the same. Wonderful experience. i went to see della Francesca's frescoes
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:34 PM
Oct 2017

in Italy, since they don't come to you, you go to them! So nice to see them in situ.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,314 posts)
20. Now that the word is out, can the borough protect the thing?
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 05:52 PM
Oct 2017

Or does it need the extra protection usually provided by large museums?

Sitting in a corner of some meeting room, it would be vulnerable to theft or vandalism.

But, yeah, if the borough can build some protection around it, and still make it visible, they own it, they should have it back.

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
9. I appreciate your thought process
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:31 PM
Oct 2017

but given that it is valued at $4 to $12 million dollars, I would think it would pose a bit of a security risk that the small borough is not equipped to handle now that the secret has been exposed.

Such an interesting story though!

CTyankee

(63,880 posts)
11. Yes, the worry is not that the piece could be stolen (too heavy) but some crazy
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:38 PM
Oct 2017

person might throw acid on it or attack it with a some instrument. Many famous museums require you to have any bag you have searched or left in a guarded room. Also coats.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
8. For a minute there I thought it was going to say
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:29 PM
Oct 2017

It was discovered in one of tRump’s properties. Maybe placed at the entrance to one of his golf courses....for members to hang their jackets while they play a few rounds.

CTyankee

(63,880 posts)
12. Trump doesn't know his ass from a hole in the ground, altho if someone said
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:42 PM
Oct 2017

"Hey, you wanna own a Rodin?" he might attempt to buy it. He was claiming that he owned a famous painting by Renoir a while ago. Stupid asshole.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
14. Exactly. That is kinda what I had in mind.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 02:09 PM
Oct 2017

If it has lotsa gold gilding on it or someone tells him it is a genuine Renoir he will buy it. Even if the paint is still wet! LOL All of his taste is in his mouth and he’d easily be duped into buying a chalk copy of a Rodin and swear he has the original.

Brother Buzz

(36,356 posts)
13. Kind of off topic, but I've always be amused by this photograph of another art discovery....
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:50 PM
Oct 2017

found in San Francisco's city hall back in 1953


"Tucked away amidst mops and pails on the fifth floor of the city hall, a bust in plaster by Thomas Ball (1819-1911) has been uncovered in the 'lost art treasure hunt.' It is probably Henry Clay executed about 1852."

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
17. I didn't even know Rodin did sculpture!
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:03 PM
Oct 2017

One of my favorite paintings is his Luncheon of the Boating Party. Thanks for the wonderful story!

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