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egbertowillies

(4,058 posts)
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:01 PM Oct 2017

LIVE NOW on Politics Done Right - Progressives will win when we give up on hoping party will change

Progressives will win when we give up on hoping party will change and just change it

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Progressive spend too much time complaining about the bad deeds of the Democratic Party. The party has been behaving in this manner for decades and will not change with status quo techniques. We just need to get busy and work the grassroots and knock it down from below.

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LIVE NOW on Politics Done Right - Progressives will win when we give up on hoping party will change (Original Post) egbertowillies Oct 2017 OP
I'll just add that from all I witnessed in 2015/16, Wwcd Oct 2017 #1
I must say I agree with you. Now let's get busy. egbertowillies Oct 2017 #3
We'll start winning when the purity brigades shut the fuck up. DavidDvorkin Oct 2017 #2
If you listen to my shows you know I am against using purity as a weapon in our movement egbertowillies Oct 2017 #4
Right, standard prescription, "the people who disagree with me should just shut up" Jim Lane Oct 2017 #6
Progressives(whatever the hell that means)will win GulfCoast66 Oct 2017 #5
 

Wwcd

(6,288 posts)
1. I'll just add that from all I witnessed in 2015/16,
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 01:25 PM
Oct 2017

Progressives had some bad deeds of their own, so until they address their own shortcomings the room for pointing fingers at the other is moot.

People before Party.
All I'm saying about that .

Thanks

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
6. Right, standard prescription, "the people who disagree with me should just shut up"
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 05:45 AM
Oct 2017

Usually, when I see a post that says Trump is awful and Democrats must be united to oppose him, the plea for unity is just a ploy for advantage in intra-party disagreements.

You're being more honest about it than most.

For my part, my prescription for Democratic victories begins with recognizing that there are disagreements among those who oppose Trump and the right-wing agenda. I even go beyond that to take the radical position that, on many of these issues, reasonable people can disagree with me. This leads to my prescription: fairness and mutual respect. Telling other members of our coalition to "shut the fuck up" is harmful to our cause.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
5. Progressives(whatever the hell that means)will win
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 10:11 PM
Oct 2017

when when they are the majority. We vote for candidates and representatives. If the representatives of the party do not reflect your leanings then perhaps you are in the minority. Not on DU, but in the party.





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