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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:04 PM Oct 2017

Couldn't Trump at least take his son Barron golfing with him?

Last edited Sat Oct 21, 2017, 06:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Has he ever been seen doing anything 'fatherly' with the boy?

It has been said previously that Trump spends his evenings alone,
sitting on the couch,
wearing just a bathrobe,
watching TV.

"In February, the Times reported that Trump spent his nights alone,
watching television in his bathrobe in a mostly darkened White House."

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/donald-trump-hiding-in-plain-sight

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Couldn't Trump at least take his son Barron golfing with him? (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 OP
I have also wondered why we seldom see Barron, northoftheborder Oct 2017 #1
He is not interested in his kids until they can make money for him. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #2
Relating to children requires empathy... Rollo Oct 2017 #46
Right, the wives raise the kids on their own. nt Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #71
kid's probably better off "neglected" by that asshole Kali Oct 2017 #3
Same thoughts here. IMO Barron is better off around her than Dump. n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #31
If you were Barron, would you want to go janterry Oct 2017 #4
I watch & I have never seen him talk to or touch Barron. Alice11111 Oct 2017 #5
And the Press never goes there. Wellstone ruled Oct 2017 #6
I've noticed snowybirdie Oct 2017 #7
This issue came up before the inaugeration. BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #12
Such as? No snark, i'm genuinely curious lunamagica Oct 2017 #14
I understand snowybirdie Oct 2017 #16
Oh, yes, I have noticed that. I hope he is getting the help he needs, but with those parents lunamagica Oct 2017 #17
I read somewhere that he is a very good person with children ( Barron not trump ) Doreen Oct 2017 #55
I saw some great video of him playing with Ivanas tiny one. nolabear Oct 2017 #69
I hope his brothers are not his male role models either. Doreen Oct 2017 #70
My husband noticed that before I did. murielm99 Oct 2017 #20
I think you could be correct bdamomma Oct 2017 #68
Probably nags the kid all the time, complains, and ignores him. SummerSnow Oct 2017 #8
it seems D_Master81 Oct 2017 #9
Under normal circumstances that's a great question. defacto7 Oct 2017 #10
Hell, he probably didn't do anything "Fatherly" to create him... Thor_MN Oct 2017 #11
He's not interested in his kids until they can work for him crazycatlady Oct 2017 #13
Yeah, I forgot about that was filmed and shown. Doreen Oct 2017 #57
I feel bad for the kid crazycatlady Oct 2017 #62
Why would Barron want to go? janx Oct 2017 #15
He isn't interested in children, they are too self centered. LiberalBrooke Oct 2017 #18
Some enterprising reporter could wish Barron a happy birthday during a press conference NotASurfer Oct 2017 #19
I like it. eom Kolesar Oct 2017 #41
Can we be sure it it his son? TheCowsCameHome Oct 2017 #21
He has no attachment to anyone really, and he will throw his sons and daughter Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #28
Trump, is a narcissistic sociopath. They have no feelings, no attachments to anyone! n/t RKP5637 Oct 2017 #35
Barron looks very much like Donald when he was that age. nt tblue37 Oct 2017 #47
It's sad. He is a horrible father. He probably resents Baron because Melania smirkymonkey Oct 2017 #22
You assume Barron wants to do anything with him JI7 Oct 2017 #23
Golfing isn't really a kid thing. Codeine Oct 2017 #24
The local schools here have golf 'teams' left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #29
Yes it is. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #30
I first played golf when I was 12. Atman Oct 2017 #44
I started playing golf at 9. nt Blue_true Oct 2017 #52
He doesn't seem to have had any normal relationships with his kids. highplainsdem Oct 2017 #25
The time he hit Jr. foir casual clothes: they were going to a baseball game and Jr. tblue37 Oct 2017 #49
Did he ever do anything with Uday and Qusay? n/t brewens Oct 2017 #26
Maybe Trump could toss a football around with him once in awhile? left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #27
Ha! Like Trump knows how to fish or throw a ball! Generic Brad Oct 2017 #42
you can certainly tell it is the weekend jodymarie aimee Oct 2017 #32
I have never even seen the kid smile Motley13 Oct 2017 #33
There were cute pics of him playing w Ivanka's baby... I think it was peek a boo.... bettyellen Oct 2017 #36
I saw some pics of him with tiffany JI7 Oct 2017 #40
Barron is not the average child. I think that might be why he never even appleannie1943 Oct 2017 #34
I have been wondering about this since DJTs summer vacation Blindingly apparent Oct 2017 #37
I think he hired someone to make a sand castle for him once. n/t rzemanfl Oct 2017 #38
Melania probably prefers it that way Bradical79 Oct 2017 #39
There is a pic from election day, Ilsa Oct 2017 #58
I remember the video of Trump's victory speech back in November, and Barron looked SO uncomfortable bearsfootball516 Oct 2017 #43
That is also a sign of Autism. Doreen Oct 2017 #59
I believe they burned out their retinas together staring at the eclipse. Atman Oct 2017 #45
Would YOU want to do something with Trump if you can avoid it. Blue_true Oct 2017 #48
I genuinely feel for Barron. Golden Raisin Oct 2017 #50
Um, I gotta ask... cwydro Oct 2017 #51
Google is your friend left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #53
Thank you for the link. cwydro Oct 2017 #54
Yes left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #56
He gave an interview rainin Oct 2017 #60
I recall hearing that n/t left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #61
Melania isn't going to let him be alone with Barron blueinredohio Oct 2017 #63
I would not be surprised if Trump is abusive. left-of-center2012 Oct 2017 #64
tRump IS psychologically abusive. Grammy23 Oct 2017 #65
Trump's offspring are not his children, they are his victims. nocalflea Oct 2017 #66
I would think the kid is better off not spending time with that piece of shit. Luciferous Oct 2017 #67
Barron always looked miserable in golf carts at Doral Awsi Dooger Oct 2017 #72

northoftheborder

(7,572 posts)
1. I have also wondered why we seldom see Barron,
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:07 PM
Oct 2017

in any context, with or without his parents, coming or going from the White House.

Rollo

(2,559 posts)
46. Relating to children requires empathy...
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 05:44 PM
Oct 2017

And Trump has zero empathy.

It's all about Himself, with no room for others.

Ivanka says he was a good provider, but didn't relate to their kids until they were 18 and could talk about business.

Total asshole.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
4. If you were Barron, would you want to go
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:08 PM
Oct 2017

golfing with him?

That man shouldn't have been allowed to father kids..............(and how could any woman in her right mind..........

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
5. I watch & I have never seen him talk to or touch Barron.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:10 PM
Oct 2017

Apparently, he and Melania had a deal that she woulddo the parenting. However, it is like he has disowned him & he denies he exits.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. And the Press never goes there.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:11 PM
Oct 2017

We are seeing the true Person whom Trump is,Cold,Not Caring,Not Sharing,Unable to Have Empathy for Others,and only Loves himself.

snowybirdie

(5,223 posts)
7. I've noticed
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:12 PM
Oct 2017

he has the same behaviors in public as my wonderful autistic grandson. I could be very wrong but in any case this child doesn't seem to be loved by his dad

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
12. This issue came up before the inaugeration.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:24 PM
Oct 2017

I agree with your observation. I taught elementary school for a long time and am very familiar with assorted behaviors.

snowybirdie

(5,223 posts)
16. I understand
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:31 PM
Oct 2017

He rarely looks directly at a person and shys away from being touched. His facial expressions are inappropriate for what's going on. I truly feel for this child who seems rejected by his father.

lunamagica

(9,967 posts)
17. Oh, yes, I have noticed that. I hope he is getting the help he needs, but with those parents
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:37 PM
Oct 2017

I doubt it. Poor kid.

Thanks for the information!

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
55. I read somewhere that he is a very good person with children ( Barron not trump )
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 06:29 PM
Oct 2017

and a lot of times children with Autism are good with little children ( particularly babies. )

nolabear

(41,959 posts)
69. I saw some great video of him playing with Ivanas tiny one.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 09:48 PM
Oct 2017

I suspect he may be autistic as well but who knows. But it’s true I have never seen any interaction between him and his father. I hope others are making up for it and he has a good life.

murielm99

(30,733 posts)
20. My husband noticed that before I did.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:02 PM
Oct 2017

I do think Barron has special needs. So does one of my nephews. He is very much like Barron. My nephew was loved rather than neglected growing up, and now he is a wonderful young adult.

bdamomma

(63,836 posts)
68. I think you could be correct
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 09:39 PM
Oct 2017

Not loved and disowned, Melania is the sole parent here. The way the father treats him will scar that boy forever.

D_Master81

(1,822 posts)
9. it seems
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:16 PM
Oct 2017

I hate to judge anyone's personal life from afar. But it seems to me that Trump is an absentee father of Barron. I could be totally wrong and hope i am for the kid's sake. But I've never seen Trump and his son together doing anything. The clintons, bush's and obamas all seemed to be much more involved with the kids than trump is.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
10. Under normal circumstances that's a great question.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:21 PM
Oct 2017

In this case the kid is better off. Maybe like some children of extreme public figures he'll become the opposite of the parent.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
13. He's not interested in his kids until they can work for him
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:24 PM
Oct 2017

Except for a teenage Ivanka, but that's another story.

I'm holding out hope for this kid (and Tiffany to a lesser extent). Donald will be dead by the time Barron's old enough to work for him. THe kid seems like a decent kid (there was a cute moment involving him playing with one of his baby nieces/nephews).

Doreen

(11,686 posts)
57. Yeah, I forgot about that was filmed and shown.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 06:32 PM
Oct 2017

I think that is the only picture I have seen Barron smile in.

LiberalBrooke

(527 posts)
18. He isn't interested in children, they are too self centered.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:40 PM
Oct 2017

A child does nothing for his distorted ego, he does not want anything to do with his children until he can con them into his sick schemes.

NotASurfer

(2,149 posts)
19. Some enterprising reporter could wish Barron a happy birthday during a press conference
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 03:43 PM
Oct 2017

(Assuming this presidency lasts until March) and see if it produces a blank or confused “what and who are you talking about?” look

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
28. He has no attachment to anyone really, and he will throw his sons and daughter
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:32 PM
Oct 2017

under the bus faster than you can blink if he has to.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
22. It's sad. He is a horrible father. He probably resents Baron because Melania
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:21 PM
Oct 2017

loves him more than she loves Trump. I am sure he sees him as competition and not as his own child.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
44. I first played golf when I was 12.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 05:39 PM
Oct 2017

Enjoyed the hell out of it, and have been playing ever since. It's like anything else -- if you get your kid into it early and they have a knack for it, it can certainly be a "kid" thing. Especially if the kid's parents have money.

highplainsdem

(48,966 posts)
25. He doesn't seem to have had any normal relationships with his kids.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:27 PM
Oct 2017

I was struck by Ivana Trump admitting recently that Trump didn't want his firstborn son to be "Donald Jr." in case the boy turned out to be a "loser." Think of what that says about Trump.

He reportedly hit Don Jr. when he was in college, actually knocking him down in front of his friends, when Don Jr. was dressed casually instead of wearing a suit when Trump showed up. Told the kid to put on a suit and meet him outside.

His relationship with Ivanka seems very twisted, as has been noted lots of times here. Weird mix of "paternal" pride that he produced such a beautiful daughter (whose looks have been enhanced by plastic surgery) and creepy incestuous remarks, which she seems creepily tolerant of.

One of his first public comments about Tiffany after she was born was wondering whether she'd have her mom's breasts. Which isn't something you usually hear said about an infant.

About the only real, semi-normal relationship any of the kids seem to have had with him has been as apprentices/scions in his business. Where he apparently views them an his mini-mes, to some exent.

tblue37

(65,319 posts)
49. The time he hit Jr. foir casual clothes: they were going to a baseball game and Jr.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 05:51 PM
Oct 2017

was wearinv a team jersey, so he was dressed appropriately. A suit at a baseball game is ridiculous!

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
42. Ha! Like Trump knows how to fish or throw a ball!
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 05:25 PM
Oct 2017

I seriously can't picture him doing either of those activities.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
36. There were cute pics of him playing w Ivanka's baby... I think it was peek a boo....
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:54 PM
Oct 2017

I remember wondering if it's because he's sensitive enough to see all the adults he's surrounded by are total assholes. Anyway, it was only the once, and yeah it's sad.

appleannie1943

(1,303 posts)
34. Barron is not the average child. I think that might be why he never even
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:37 PM
Oct 2017

speaks to him or touches him. We know how he feels about people with disabilities and he can't
imagine that he could help produce a child that is less than perfect. Then Barron is male. He is only interested in female children. And then not in a normal father way. Everything in his world is about him, even his children. Normal parents would spend a lot of time with Barron to help him achieve everything that is possible for him to achieve and would take pride in the child in every accomplishment of the child. Donald can only be proud of himself. He treats his other daughter in the same way he treats Barron. He never even notices she is even there, the same as with Barron.

37. I have been wondering about this since DJTs summer vacation
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 04:55 PM
Oct 2017

The press showed him exiting Air Force One with his grandchildren. There was no mention that Barron was even on the plane.

 

Bradical79

(4,490 posts)
39. Melania probably prefers it that way
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 05:15 PM
Oct 2017

She married for money and fame. She doesn't actually like him, and probably doesn't want that abusive monster anywhere near her kid. Donnald probably wants nothing to do with him either. He's a fat, stupid, lazy 70 year old incapable of loving other human beings. Barron's not much use to him.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
58. There is a pic from election day,
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 06:35 PM
Oct 2017

Ivanka standing next to a sullen Melania, with a recent text bubble, "You knew what you were signing up for." Laughed my ass off when I saw it.

She should not have had a kid with DOTUS. I wouldn't want him near my sons either.

bearsfootball516

(6,377 posts)
43. I remember the video of Trump's victory speech back in November, and Barron looked SO uncomfortable
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 05:36 PM
Oct 2017

He was shifting all around, constantly figiting, eyes just spinning everywhere. It was more than obvious that he didn't want to be on stage. I have no doubt he probably wishes his dad didn't win the election, because then the spotlight could go off them.

Atman

(31,464 posts)
45. I believe they burned out their retinas together staring at the eclipse.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 05:40 PM
Oct 2017

Oh, wait...Barron didn't. He's way smarter than his father.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
48. Would YOU want to do something with Trump if you can avoid it.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 05:50 PM
Oct 2017

Except give him crying towels when he resigns or go to jail?

Golden Raisin

(4,608 posts)
50. I genuinely feel for Barron.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 05:52 PM
Oct 2017

Every family's dynamics are different and psycho-analyzing by a stranger from a distance is very dicey. However, I am the son of a narcissist father and "normal" interactions between a narcissist father and his son (or daughter, I assume) are warped, cold and distant. And that's putting it mildly. Add in that this plays out for Barron on a grand scale (the White House, the Press, the Family constantly in the public eye) just aggravates what would be intense and difficult in a regular family setting. They seem to be shielding Barron as much as possible from public scrutiny and he absolutely deserves his privacy and his childhood. Barron doesn't have siblings near his own age, so that leaves Melania to run interference for him.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
51. Um, I gotta ask...
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 05:52 PM
Oct 2017

“It has been said”. Where and who said this?

No fan of the shitgibbon, but I hate these kind of unsubstantiated statements.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
53. Google is your friend
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 06:18 PM
Oct 2017


"In February, the Times reported that Trump spent his nights alone,
watching television in his bathrobe in a mostly darkened White House."

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/donald-trump-hiding-in-plain-sight
 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
54. Thank you for the link.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 06:27 PM
Oct 2017

I never doubted that was the truth, but dayum, that article made me even more sad.

We are so screwn.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
60. He gave an interview
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 06:42 PM
Oct 2017

where he said he doesn't do anything with the kids. He pays for them and the woman raises them. Yes, he said that. Paraphrased, but close enough.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
65. tRump IS psychologically abusive.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 09:22 PM
Oct 2017

Just look how he conducted himself on the campaign trail. And he abuses us every day. Just imagine being behind closed doors with that asshole. If I were Melania, I’d be off on a round the world cruise and bring Barron along for the experiences. Bring some other kids his age so he’d have companions aside from his mother. They are rich enough to hire teachers or tutors for as long as they are gone.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
66. Trump's offspring are not his children, they are his victims.
Sat Oct 21, 2017, 09:26 PM
Oct 2017

They are of no use to him unless they have something he wants or needs. If they have nothing to bring to the table, they don't exist. All of Trump's relationship's are transactional.

The only reason his three eldest children are in business with him is because he indoctrinated them into certain thinking, certain behaviors. Bernie Madoff is a monster, but he did not involve his sons in his crimes (supposedly). Trump's three eldest are all in legal jeopardy and seem willing and eager partners in their father's crimes.

Barron is better off without his father's warped influence. I hope he escapes.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
72. Barron always looked miserable in golf carts at Doral
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 03:58 AM
Oct 2017

I mentioned it here at the time. After Trump purchased Doral and hosted the annual PGA event, he would always drive around the course on the weekend and especially on Sunday, following the lead groups for many holes. It was particularly evident the year Patrick Reed won.

Melania in that golf cart would be stone faced and Barron looked like a spoiled brat ready to throw a tantrum. Pained facial expression and always looking away from the golf.

The irony was that there was another kid in the gallery who looked very much like Barron but his personality could not have been more different. He was energetic while walking with the lead groups. Finally he latched onto Rory McIlroy's dad and tagged along hole after hole, asking questions about Rory's game. That kid was so memorable I recognized him the following year, doing the same thing. I remember thinking it was sad that the sour puss Barron Trump would become better known than the impressive kid.

Besides, there's a basic problem with golf: It is very difficult to play. People watch pros on TV and think it's like darts on grass. But once they get out there and have trouble making basic contact, let alone become a competent player, they blame the sport and quickly give up. You can make a public fool of yourself on the golf course without any trouble at all. It tests physical skill and also attitude.

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