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applegrove

(118,577 posts)
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 03:24 AM Oct 2017

Trump plans to release JFK assassination documents despite concerns from federal agencies

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/trump-plans-to-release-of-jfk-assassination-documents-despite-concerns-from-federal-agencies/2017/10/21/d036cf36-b65d-11e7-9e58-e6288544af98_story.html?hpid=hp_no-name_hp-card-national%3Ahomepage%2Fcard&utm_term=.b2615b0740d8

By Ian Shapira at the Washington Post

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The records are also said to include details on Oswald’s activities while he was traveling in Mexico City in late September 1963 and courting Cuban and Soviet spies, as well as the CIA’s personality profiles written of Oswald after the assassination.

But some experts fear the history that may be lost forever in unreadable documents in the trove. One listed as “unintelligible” is a secret communication from the CIA to the Office of Naval Intelligence about Oswald in October 1963 — weeks before the assassination. Oswald had been honorably discharged from the Marine Corps in 1959, but it was later changed to a dishonorable discharge. He was outraged and made threats late in 1963 when he learned the military had rejected his appeal of its decision.

Phil Shenon, who wrote a book about the Warren Commission, the congressional body that investigated Kennedy’s killing, said he was pleased with Trump’s decision to release the documents. But he wonders to what degree the papers will ultimately be released.

“It’s great news that the president is focused on this and that he’s trying to demonstrate transparency. But the question remains whether he will open the library in full — every word in every document, as the law requires,” Shenon said. “And my understanding is that he won’t without infuriating people at the CIA and elsewhere who are determined to keep at least some of the information secret, especially in documents created in the 1990s.”

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Trump plans to release JFK assassination documents despite concerns from federal agencies (Original Post) applegrove Oct 2017 OP
I'm not holding my breath on this one... Leonardo Da Biker Oct 2017 #1
Why are you using that nationalist Breitbart phrase 'deep state'? I thought applegrove Oct 2017 #3
Are you fucking kidding me?! Leonardo Da Biker Oct 2017 #5
No, we are not kidding you and it's not a "knee jerk reaction" Solomon Oct 2017 #7
I did not mean to bully. I don't agree with conspiracy theories on JFK and applegrove Oct 2017 #8
So 45 is going to make more enemies at the CIA? murielm99 Oct 2017 #2
This is about history. Not Trump. My point is for the conspiracy theorists applegrove Oct 2017 #4
They must say something bad about President Obama or Hillary LastLiberal in PalmSprings Oct 2017 #6
1. I'm not holding my breath on this one...
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 05:27 AM
Oct 2017

My gut tells me whatever is released is going to be so heavily redacted that a release of these records at all is pointless. The deep state will never allow the true facts of the assassination to be revealed. There are two eras in the republic of the United States, pre Dealy plaza when we had democracy and post Dealy plaza when we have since had the illusion of democracy.
If anything this document dump will offer only more obfuscation, more smoke and mirrors, more questions.

applegrove

(118,577 posts)
3. Why are you using that nationalist Breitbart phrase 'deep state'? I thought
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 06:04 AM
Oct 2017

we are against that use and the image it congers.

5. Are you fucking kidding me?!
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 07:50 AM
Oct 2017

The term "deep state" has been around a lot longer than Brietbart. I find your kneejerk reaction to vocabulary to be a bit odd but what is disturbing is your blatant bullying. First of all define "we". You need to go back and reread my post especially taking note of the pre Dealy plaza/post Deleay plaza implication, it is important. Yes, there indeed IS a deepstate and you would be wise to realize it does in fact exist. The most powerful man in the free world was murdered in broad daylight amidst throngs of people and subsequently we the people were insulted with a sham investigation and its laughable conclusions. That is the deep state acting with impunity.
I offer you two quotes, the first on bullying and the second on thinking for yourself;

"The rights of every man are diminished when the rights of one man are threatened.” ~John F. Kennedy

"We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people." ~John F. Kennedy

Sorry if you feel I have violated some notion of groupthink you may be harboring. What's next, book burning?

Solomon

(12,310 posts)
7. No, we are not kidding you and it's not a "knee jerk reaction"
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 09:07 AM
Oct 2017

Nobody cares how long the term has been around. Right now it's a an alt-right conspiracy meme. Alex Jones bullshit.

applegrove

(118,577 posts)
8. I did not mean to bully. I don't agree with conspiracy theories on JFK and
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 04:42 PM
Oct 2017

let you vent. That was the purpose of this thread. To let the air out gradually. So it is not such a shock to you when nothing red hot is released next Thursday. If we use memes the right is using they win the battle.

murielm99

(30,724 posts)
2. So 45 is going to make more enemies at the CIA?
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 05:57 AM
Oct 2017

Is that what is going on here?

Is 45 using this to distract from some of his own illegal activities?

What am I missing? What is trump destroying or sabotaging?

applegrove

(118,577 posts)
4. This is about history. Not Trump. My point is for the conspiracy theorists
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 06:05 AM
Oct 2017

not to get their hopes up. I'm sure it is all very boring and regular in nature. How could any government agency know what Oswald planning. Hindsight is 20/20.

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