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Go back to that time when Jimmy Carter wasn't decent with his adversaries... (Original Post) MrScorpio Oct 2017 OP
I remember when that didnt happen ornotna Oct 2017 #1
I remember when that didn't happen too and my apostrophe works. n/t rzemanfl Oct 2017 #2
Ha ornotna Oct 2017 #5
Punctuation disappears in posting some times, it's a glitch in the system IronLionZion Oct 2017 #15
Apparently only in the subject line and only for some users. rzemanfl Oct 2017 #16
Thanks, I've ornotna Oct 2017 #18
So I see. rzemanfl Oct 2017 #19
So much that onecaliberal Oct 2017 #3
I remember him taking a Xtian beating from the Repugs. He never punched back, and NCjack Oct 2017 #4
When he was Governor of Georgia, the joke was Glorfindel Oct 2017 #6
The hit piece snowybirdie Oct 2017 #7
No, but I remember his claim that he didn't take donor money Hortensis Oct 2017 #8
I only remember frazzled Oct 2017 #9
Rec Big #5 & k is my answer!1 UTUSN Oct 2017 #10
Name the time his adversaries sold America out to the Russians. Irish_Dem Oct 2017 #11
And maybe that's why he lost Downtown Hound Oct 2017 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author lastlib Oct 2017 #13
(Well, he did say he'd whip Ted Kennedy's ass....) lastlib Oct 2017 #14
In this case, he is making a grave mistake. SunSeeker Oct 2017 #17
Only with the individuals who hold literalism as the only valid method of inferring meaning. LanternWaste Oct 2017 #21
well he did go after that rabbit rsdsharp Oct 2017 #20

IronLionZion

(45,429 posts)
15. Punctuation disappears in posting some times, it's a glitch in the system
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 07:35 PM
Oct 2017

it's happened to me lots of times.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
4. I remember him taking a Xtian beating from the Repugs. He never punched back, and
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 05:17 PM
Oct 2017

that contributed to his loss for a second term. If he does help Trump, he can expect to be their scapegoat.

Glorfindel

(9,726 posts)
6. When he was Governor of Georgia, the joke was
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 05:22 PM
Oct 2017

"Why isn't Jimmy Carter fit to be Governor of Georgia?"

Answer: "Because he's a Christian gentleman."

It was true then. It is true now.

snowybirdie

(5,223 posts)
7. The hit piece
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 05:24 PM
Oct 2017

by Ms. Dowd was actually a way for her to, once again, blast Obama. Obviously, she picked and choose interview comments to make Pres Carter look like he disliked him too. She used him

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. No, but I remember his claim that he didn't take donor money
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 05:25 PM
Oct 2017

because Bernie Sanders reminded me of him. In both cases, it was sort of mostly true but also a major whopper. Something I really didn't like because I strongly object to candidates trying to work me for a fool, but I did vote for him.

I also remember that, not as much as Sanders but almost, his colleagues wouldn't support him. He simply wasn't seen as party leadership material, much less good candidate and presidential, but he very competently, and surprisingly, pursued a strategy that bypassed need for their support.

This sounds as if I am not a Carter admirer, and yet I am, with limits. I admire him greatly for some admirable facets and wince over less-than-admirable others.

The second half is looking forward to some examples for the OP, btw, because I haven't and will never forgive him for badmouthing Hillary in 2016. He also owns Trump's election.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
9. I only remember
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 05:31 PM
Oct 2017

the criticism about his membership in a Baptist Church that at the time prohibited African Americans from worshipping there. Although he claims to have opposed the discriminatory policy, he didn't resign from the church (until many years later), so it was a fairly reasonable criticism at the time. He could've done more on that front.

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
12. And maybe that's why he lost
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 06:24 PM
Oct 2017

to the underhanded, anti-American, fascist tactics of what at the time was the Reagan campaign, soon to be the Reagan administration, thanks in no small part to him choosing to be "decent."

Maybe if he had actually called them out more on the deal they made with Iran to prevent American hostages from being released to hurt Carter, we wouldn't be in this situation today. In fact, maybe staying silent on the issue isn't really the decent thing to do at all.

Response to MrScorpio (Original post)

lastlib

(23,216 posts)
14. (Well, he did say he'd whip Ted Kennedy's ass....)
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 06:32 PM
Oct 2017

when Kennedy announced he was challenging for the nomination.

SunSeeker

(51,550 posts)
17. In this case, he is making a grave mistake.
Sun Oct 22, 2017, 07:58 PM
Oct 2017

Trump is not going to make him his NK negotiator. Carter is just going to lose credibility.

Being "decent" to your adversaries does not require bending the facts for them. He did not have to say what he said. I am very disappointed in him.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
21. Only with the individuals who hold literalism as the only valid method of inferring meaning.
Mon Oct 23, 2017, 03:28 PM
Oct 2017

"Carter is just going to lose credibility..."

Only with the individuals who hold literalism as the only valid method of inferring meaning. Fundies, I s'pose, is the trendy pejorative for them these days.

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