Watched Anthony Bourdain's Parts Unknown Pittsburg tonight. At one point

[applegrove]

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he was interviewing a white working class person who said about Politics that for many politics is "if I can't do well then I don't want you to do well" or something to that effect. Did anyone else see that? I thought it was a telling take on politics in the USA. White working class burning down the house when they are suffering.

(later)
"If the economy is not going to work for me then I don't want it to work for anybody"..someone from a town near Pittsburg put it to the mayor that way. Mayor was just flushing out Bourdain's point about angry voters by quoting someone else.

[elleng]

1. I watched the show, but didn't catch that statement.

[applegrove]

2. I was half online. I'll have to watch it again.

[Hoyt]

3. That's common among white wingers, especially if "you" means "minorities."

[applegrove]

4. Yes. I had not seen it played out that way before. Applies to minorities

and elites (liberal and republican). Destroy, Destroy, destroy.

[bettyellen]

5. What was Bourdain's reaction? I bet he didn't call out that selfish ass and tell him

That lifting up everyone is the way to go. He's a chicken shit. He's another one who knew about Weinstein and blames Hillary for not saying anything. HRC didn't date a victim, FFS.

[applegrove]

7. I don't recall. I will research it. Wasn't paying much attention. And as

to a woman harrased and Bourdain keeping quiet it is pretty much the woman's choice how she wants to handle it. You can get horrid blowback for knowing and speaking the truth about someone evil. I did and got post traumatic stress disorder i was attacked so often and so personally. I would not wish that on anyone.

[bettyellen]

15. He's kept his mouth shut about the rampant abuse that goes on in restaurants though....

Yet he wants a pat on the back for this? Calling HRC shameful? What the fuck, he knew about the rapes. He has never done a single thing in support of working women or their healthy. So he wants a prize now for saying "her too" while shitting on another woman who did not know as much as he did. Give me a break, he's a thoughtless ass at best.

[JI7]

8. after the responses he got he said he just wanted to hear something inspiring from her since he

admires her.

people went after him for his silence on CNN propping up Trump and the sex abuse that goes on in the restaurant/food industry .

[bettyellen]

13. That was lame of him. It's a reflex with people and yeah HE had direct knowledge and said nothing ..

He should have starred with an apology for his own failings. And I bet he didn't say a damn thing to these hateful people who want others to suffer. He's gone along to get along all his life. Still is, I see.

[JI7]

6. i would say more accurate is they don't want any minority to do better than they are

so instead of doing well and a minority doing even better they would rather burn it down .

[justhanginon]

9. Imagine their pain with President Obama being president for eight years.

Not only is he a minority, he is super smart, extremely well spoken, totally a class act, a proven family man and had no scandals to speak of during his administration. Deep down that had to really hurt these sewer dwellers.

[JI7]

10. the support for Trump and Trump himself running had very much to do with Obama being so much better

than they are.

and now they are even more angry at the comparisons .

[get the red out]

16. This is true

And the second reason they vote against their own interests, the first being "social" issues.

[elleng]

12. *Show is rerunning now, midnight, CNN.

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'What's missing is an economic plan that helps everyone, not just techies and computer geeks, but everyday people.' (Said by a senior African American life-long Pittsburgh resident.)

Braddock Mayor Fetterman quoted someone as having said what applegrove said, to him in this distressed, bankrupt town. (Race was not mentioned, incidentally.) Discussion proceeded on challenge of abandonment of Braddock.

Recall: John Fetterman: 'He won the Braddock mayoral election in 2005 by one vote, and was re-elected in 2009 and 2013. As mayor, Fetterman has drawn international attention for trying to revitalize the economy in Braddock, with an article in The New York Times, an appearance on Comedy Central’s “The Colbert Report” and a Levi’s jeans ad. He has made equality, environmental protection, gay rights, immigration and marijuana legalization major campaign issues. Fetterman is a self-described democratic socialist.[1] He ran for the United States Senate in 2016, but was defeated in the Democratic primary.' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Fetterman_(politician)

[nolabear]

14. I saw, and I lived in Pittsburgh in the 80s.

Those robots? That was us. The high tech they feared and still fear, though those mills were long gone. Pittsburgh is two cities now, the European provincial salt of the earth neighborhood driven families who don’t know what to do and the new technology driven nomads who are revitalizing but can easily move on.

I didn’t hear that line but as it so happens Mr. Bear is back there tonight, having returned from Seattle for a week of training those very techies that keep the place going.

I hated Pittsburgh. It was less like me than any place I’ve ever lived, but I respect the people. They’re a bit lost and very old world Catholic Eastern European conservative but they weren’t mean. For what it’s worth.