This T R E A S O N is all anyone should be talking about

[Eliot Rosewater]

http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/10/23/559463071/state-department-reportedly-revokes-visit-of-magnitsky-act-campaigner



We have some threads on this already, we need more. We need the country talking about this all day everyday.

British-born Putin critic has US visa revoked after Russia places him on international arrest list

Tillerson and Trump are outright traitors, this is definitive proof

[Sneederbunk]

1. Hoping for a Christmas present from Mueller.

[Chasstev365]

26. Don't hope too hard! There was a Fitzmas I didn't get bike I wanted a few years ago!

Know what I am saying?

[Sneederbunk]

33. Yes but you were naughty that year.

[Thomas Hurt]

2. we may have had obligations to do this under our treaties and/or Interpol agreements....

so the sitting fascist may not had to do anything about or had to order one of his apparatchiks to do it.

[JustAnotherGen]

6. Add in

We have obligations under the Russian Sanctions law that has not been put into place by S.O.S./Trump.

I just find it odd that we honor international law imposed on the 'World' (not just us) by Russia - yet this Administration and S.O.S. can't do something as simple as updating the OFAC, BIS and ITAR lists.

Like - it's really not difficult.

[Honeycombe8]

23. Yes, I was wondering if the U S normally revokes visas named as Internat'l criminals. nt

[GentryDixon]

3. He was born in Chicago.

Moved to the UK early on. Worked out of Russia, but maintained his residence in the UK. He gave up his US citizenship in 1998 to avoid paying taxes related to his foreign investments, & then became a British citizen.

[Honeycombe8]

24. So NPR got his birth place wrong? Well, that's not good. nt

[Me.]

4. Has Anyone Given An Answer As To Why

[Texin]

11. Because Putin wanted it.

He has wanted the Magnitsky act revoked. And he's had it in for Browder since the late '90s. Browder made investments in Russian corporations that were made to sell shares and interests publicly which were literally pennies on the dollar - or rubles - of what they were worth. The oligarchs (Putin was one of them who had begun doing the same thing) did not take kindly to Western investors owning interests of 'their' businesses. When Putin became president of Russia (and actually earlier than that when he was in the FSB) targeted Browder, first revoking his British visa and physically putting him on a flight out of Russia. People who had worked with Browder in Russia were targeted as well. All of them had begun counterpunching legally (or they tried to at least). Sergei Magnitsky was a lawyer who worked on their behalf and he had some success with his investigations, but he was subsequently arrested (a Kremlin-directive), tried and kangaroo-convicted, then sent to prison. He was a man in frail health to begin with and he was subjected to extreme deprivation, physical and mental torture and eventually, he was starved and beaten to death. The family and Browder were able to find physical proof of his prison mistreatment and brought the information to light. Browder was still (as far as I remember reading in his book, Red Notice, still a U.S. citizen and, frankly, I think he still has dual U.S./British citizenship, but I could very well be mistaken about that). There was a red notice issued for him back then, but he was able to travel to the U.S. and worked with the congress to get the Magnitsky Act enacted and passed, which was signed into law by President Obama. Putin has wanted to see those Magnitsky Act sanctions against Russia dropped, and he's got dual allies in Shitler and Shillerson.

[Me.]

12. Quite An Answer

Thank you

[FakeNoose]

14. Thanks for the explanation

So far nobody in the media has tried to explain this. I'm wondering if Rachel Maddow is working this story?
Sure hope so!

And yes I agree with the OP that this revocation could be sign of treason, however it might also be mandated by treaties that we're not aware of. (Somebody in the State Dept. would certainly know. Oh.... that's right.)

[Raster]

29. Excellent Answer!

The tRump* Tower meeting between Don Jr.*, Jar-Jar*, Manafort* and a contingent of Russians was all about repealing the Magnitsky Act for kompromat on Candidate Clinton.

Rexxon, on face value, represents the United States State Department, but I suspect, in heart, his loyalties lie with Exxon, probably the most independent and state-like corporation on the planet. The Magnitsky Act prohibits Exxon from working with Putin*s Russia to rape, plunder and pillage the Arctic's petroleum resources.

[VaBchTgerLily]

5. next they will revoke the Magnitsky Act-they are just setting it up to try to do just that

[HipChick]

7. I can see that happening...

[ancianita]

15. Nope. Too many anti-Russia, anti-Putin Republicans won't let that happen.

[Achilleaze]

8. Comrade Casino quivering in fear, upping the Nuke Threat Thingy as a diversion

Global nuclear war, in his mind, will divert attention from his glaring betrayal of the USA by colluding with russia and republican skuzzballs to steal the election, and then proceed to squander millions of taxpayer dollars on his own private luxurious, golden, gourmet golf goof offs. How republican is that? Skeezey up the wazoo.

[Duppers]

9. Absolutely!!

Thank you and all posters on this thread.

K&R

[kairos12]

10. Shitgibbon 2 Scoops is a Putin Arse licker.

[Eliot Rosewater]

13. Love that descriptive name

[peggysue2]

16. The Orange Emperor

has said he wants the tax deform bill on his desk before Thanksgiving. Wonder if he suspects something??? Hah!

I agree Elliot.The namby-pamby words--interfering, meddling in our election(s)--need to be replaced with 'treachery, treason, deliberate obstruction of justice, acceptance and full knowledge of dark money from a foreign adversarial government,' etc.

There's more, much more which will eventually come out, shock some people, others not.

The Bill Browder case is trumpet blast. To deny Browder a US visa over a bill which passed 98-0 in the US Senate, unanimously in the Canadian parliment, is just another indication of how far up Putin's ass this Administration is willing to go. And how badly the Magnitsky Act hurts Putin and his sycophantic oligarchs.

Trump and Tillerson, poifect together. How we in New Jersey might phrase it.

[Maggiemayhem]

17. Didnt he just testify in front of the Senate Judiciary Committee?

[ProudLib72]

18. You act all shocked that this is happening now

Let me remind you of another name: "Plame". And that was initiated by one of "our" guys, not a Russian dictator. The rethugs have been selling this country out for years and years.

[Eliot Rosewater]

19. Karl Rove was proud of his treason, Cheney too.

I dont know if they would allow putin to help them, rove probably, W maybe not.

But this is happening and we cant stop it.

[ProudLib72]

20. All I'm saying is that GOP treason is not without precedent

IOKIYAR, and it has been for decades. They've just become bolder. Rove and Cheney did it themselves. This time around, we have the added factor of Russian kowtowing. Next it will be extraditing our citizens to Russia to be murdered.

[Eliot Rosewater]

21. I think that may happen with Browder soon

This country should have been in a general strike by now, we just arent going to save it

[ProudLib72]

22. While I was typing, I thought of that very possibility

I imagine that we might facilitate his capture by Interpol so we maintain the appearance of having clean hands. I mean, we have already facilitated that in a way by denying him entry into the US. Whatever happens now, Dotard will claim he had not part in it. I agree, we should be taking this to the streets. This administration DOES NOT protect its citizens! This is a blatant disregard for the oath of office Dotard took.

[bigbrother05]

28. Don the Con is all about off-shoring and outsourcing

Never did a real day's work or any heavy lifting. Had is personal body guard deliver bad news to subordinates.

Comrade ChickenShit

[Tatiana]

25. We all better pray McCain wins his battle with cancer.

He's about the only Republican (maybe Murkowski) who will stand up to Putin/Putin's puppet on this issue. Shame on Rubio and Graham who have proven themselves to be the biggest Trump punks of them all.

[orangecrush]

27. K&R

The gangsters in the White House and Putins gang aren't bothering to hide the truth anymore.

[Marcuse]

30. Republican treason has even deeper roots.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/06/yes-nixon-scuttled-the-vietnam-peace-talks-107623

[Eliot Rosewater]

32. Oh yes, well aware as I am that Reagan committed treason as well with the hostages.

We really are just seeing the natural evolution of these type of people.

[sagesnow]

31. Help me get this ...

The FBI blocked a Russian attempt to infiltrate the Clinton campaign, but the FBI allowed Russia to infiltrate the tRump campaign, thereby abetting his win. Now the Putin backed tRrump Administration has apparently revoked Bill Browder's passport. Will the tRump Administration succeed in repealing the Magnitsky Act? Ever wonder who the FBI is working for? Is Rachel on this story yet?

[njhoneybadger]

34. Damn right