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Jose Garcia

(2,581 posts)
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 08:31 AM Oct 2017

National Journal: A Virginia Democrat Defies the Progressive Base

Last edited Wed Oct 25, 2017, 09:13 AM - Edit history (1)

Ralph Northam is leading in the governor’s race because he’s run to the middle, and hasn’t pandered to liberal activists.

Amid all the talk about Ed Gillespie’s exploiting cultural divisions to run competitively in Virginia, many political commentators are missing the big picture in the governor’s race there. Lieutenant governor Ralph Northam, a Democrat, is leading in nearly every poll despite running a general-election campaign that has ignored the loudest, most-polarizing voices in his party’s base. He said he wants to work with President Trump when possible despite their many disagreements, he’s ignored environmentalists’ pleas to oppose the construction of a controversial natural-gas pipeline, and he’s called for localities to decide what to do with Confederate statues, instead of mandating their removal.

A former George W. Bush voter, Northam is running as a moderate Democratic pragmatist in the spirit of Bill Clinton—or recently-elected Gov. Roy Cooper, one of the most-prominent Democrats to win during last year’s Trump wave in neighboring North Carolina. And despite all the Democratic angst about the race tightening, his own campaign’s polls have shown him consistently ahead. The average of public polling shows that he’s leading by a healthy 6-point margin.

The real reason you’re hearing so much wailing from Democrats is because they fear that Northam could pave the way for a moderate revival within the party—that a victory would prove that the party’s candidates can win without being held hostage by the increasingly progressive base. In the primary, he handily dispatched former Rep. Tom Perriello, who ran well to his left and won the support of leading liberal activists across the spectrum, from senior Obama officials to socialist-minded senators such as Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. And since winning the nomination, Northam has resisted calls for his campaign to pander to the grassroots, to the point where they’re leaking unfavorable assessments of his candidacy.

more: https://www.nationaljournal.com/s/659783/virginia-democrat-defies-progressive-base?mref=dashboard-free

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National Journal: A Virginia Democrat Defies the Progressive Base (Original Post) Jose Garcia Oct 2017 OP
Consider The Source ProfessorGAC Oct 2017 #1
BINGO KPN Oct 2017 #30
That increasingly progressive base is really a problem. pangaia Oct 2017 #2
Triangulation zipplewrath Oct 2017 #3
Yeah, like "fuck the liberals". KPN Oct 2017 #31
I believe these statues should be taken down and moved into museums. LexVegas Oct 2017 #4
Everyday a different Northam hit piece. The Koch brothers sure are getting a bang for their buck. FSogol Oct 2017 #5
How about posting an example of the "unfavorable assessments" that don't come straight out of Koch Jose Garcia Oct 2017 #6
Yeah, the Nation hit piece was posted 2 days ago to attack Northam. It is full of even more BS FSogol Oct 2017 #8
Thanks for that info.. pangaia Oct 2017 #25
The Nation often mirrors the right these days... and the Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #24
Northam has also said the Confederate statues should come down, so that is a lie too. nt LexVegas Oct 2017 #11
He also said he'd follow the State's DEQ advice on the pipeline and is withholding judgement FSogol Oct 2017 #12
Northam likely wins but let's not count our chickens before they hatch. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #7
Northam only wins if everyone turns out and votes. All of this crap trying to divide the party FSogol Oct 2017 #9
I didn't read the article. Can I have the Cliff Notes? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #10
Sorry, I don't spend my spare time phone banking and knocking on doors to just turnaround FSogol Oct 2017 #15
They must really think Northam is going to win. rogue emissary Oct 2017 #13
Bingo! And they know an endorsement from the NJ is damaging to a Dem. lagomorph777 Oct 2017 #18
All the VA race proves leftynyc Oct 2017 #14
Exactly. Blue_true Oct 2017 #16
The push for purity is leftynyc Oct 2017 #21
Yes! peggysue2 Oct 2017 #28
No doubt NPR will invite "neutral" Jonah Goldberg to explain what this means Orrex Oct 2017 #17
I just realized yesterday why I had to stop listening to NPR lagomorph777 Oct 2017 #19
Yeah, I can't stand their flagship news programs anymore Orrex Oct 2017 #20
I hope you're explaining to them leftynyc Oct 2017 #22
They wouldn't care in the slightest Orrex Oct 2017 #23
That is CRAP. Not the message I get from Northam's ads at all. 50 Shades Of Blue Oct 2017 #26
I can't comment on the stuff about Northum dsc Oct 2017 #27
The BASE -who is it? May be 2 bases of a political party delisen Oct 2017 #29

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
2. That increasingly progressive base is really a problem.
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 08:45 AM
Oct 2017

And those grassroots folks..
My, oh my.
Whatever are we going to do about them?

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LexVegas

(6,024 posts)
4. I believe these statues should be taken down and moved into museums.
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 08:57 AM
Oct 2017

As governor, I am going to be a vocal advocate for that approach and work with localities on this issue,” Northam said in a statement. “We should also do more to elevate the parts of our history that have all too often been underrepresented.”



FSogol

(45,435 posts)
5. Everyday a different Northam hit piece. The Koch brothers sure are getting a bang for their buck.
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 09:05 AM
Oct 2017

Every line is wrong and misleading. Northam hasn't been running to the center, he's been running to the left.

And Perriello was MORE conservative than Northam on several issues such as gun control.

How about posting an example of the "unfavorable assessments" that don't come straight out of Koch mouths?

Pretty sad that this tripe has to get spread around DU.

FSogol

(45,435 posts)
8. Yeah, the Nation hit piece was posted 2 days ago to attack Northam. It is full of even more BS
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 09:25 AM
Oct 2017

than the article you posted. It makes the case that Northam is going after white voters and ignoring the base. Anyone who has seen a Northam or Herring ad would notice they are targeting women with an emphasis on young women and women of color. Don't believe me? Go to Northam, or Fairfax, or

Herring's website and watch the ads.

https://ralphnortham.com/
http://www.fairfaxforlg.com/
https://herringforag.com/

You find that their ads are either biographical or are aimed at women. The are reaching for votes from the Democratic base. This is just another article aimed at dividing us.

We are only 14 days from the election, why post a daily article basing the candidate? Why try and divide the party on the eve of the election?

Demsrule86

(68,455 posts)
24. The Nation often mirrors the right these days... and the
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 10:05 AM
Oct 2017

author has written numerous articles about this...it is his schtick...not convinced he is correct. Also there is no doubt his is going to be used by the right to divide the Democratic electorate...we are fools if we let it happen. I have no doubt that moderate candidates do better in moderate states and Virginia is not a really liberal state...I would say that moderate Terry McAuliffe who won last time has done a great job...considering the legislature is still righty.

FSogol

(45,435 posts)
12. He also said he'd follow the State's DEQ advice on the pipeline and is withholding judgement
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 09:33 AM
Oct 2017

until then. Another lie.

FSogol

(45,435 posts)
9. Northam only wins if everyone turns out and votes. All of this crap trying to divide the party
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 09:26 AM
Oct 2017

isn't helping.


FSogol

(45,435 posts)
15. Sorry, I don't spend my spare time phone banking and knocking on doors to just turnaround
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 09:35 AM
Oct 2017

and help distribute divisive anti-Democratic articles on the web.

rogue emissary

(3,147 posts)
13. They must really think Northam is going to win.
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 09:33 AM
Oct 2017

So they need to start setting the narrative that he's a moderate/centrist Democrat. They can't have the story be that a progressive or liberal democrat beat their trump lite bigot Gillespie.

If Northam wins he'll be one of the most progressive Democrats we've elected in years. His stances and actions on abortion, guns, and "identity politics" has been solid. I guess those don't count as progressive issues for this reporter.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
14. All the VA race proves
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 09:35 AM
Oct 2017

is that we can't use cookie cutter type candidates for ALL races. In some states a more liberal Democrat wont have a problem being elected and in others, we'll have to put up someone more moderate to win. I have absolutely no reason to be part of a party that requires nothing but the purest of souls run just so we can lose a race in the name of fucking purity. This is a big country with many different issues that effect people. 65 million people are never going to agree about everything.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
16. Exactly.
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 09:51 AM
Oct 2017

A liberal WILL NOT win in my district, but a bluedog certainly can. I prefer a liberal, but I also want a Democrat instead of a republican winning the seat.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
21. The push for purity is
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 09:59 AM
Oct 2017

killing BOTH parties. Those kinds of things only work with small numbers of populations.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
19. I just realized yesterday why I had to stop listening to NPR
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 09:56 AM
Oct 2017

The top dude there is a total RW twit - saw an interview on CNN.

Orrex

(63,169 posts)
20. Yeah, I can't stand their flagship news programs anymore
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 09:59 AM
Oct 2017

Some of the long-form pieces are great, as are several of their regular staff contributors, but the overall vibe is so pro-business and Republican-friendly that I can't endure it.

And this is pledge week, when they ask me to help fund the puff pieces they air while Rome burns.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
22. I hope you're explaining to them
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 10:00 AM
Oct 2017

why you're not contributing. They have no reason to change otherwise.

Orrex

(63,169 posts)
23. They wouldn't care in the slightest
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 10:03 AM
Oct 2017

I'm not a person of wealth, so my biggest contribution probably costs less than the stationery that the Koch brothers use to instruct NPR how to report about them.

When I stopped contributing, I am 100% certain that NPR didn't even notice.

50 Shades Of Blue

(9,916 posts)
26. That is CRAP. Not the message I get from Northam's ads at all.
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 10:26 AM
Oct 2017

Gawd knows I see them a dozen times a day. He's calling out Trump not progressives.

dsc

(52,147 posts)
27. I can't comment on the stuff about Northum
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 10:41 AM
Oct 2017

but I can about the stuff about Cooper. Cooper ran a very liberal races, as did Josh Stein, both of whom won their races while most other statewide races went the other way (including losing a Senate races in which our candidate was liberal to be fair)

delisen

(6,042 posts)
29. The BASE -who is it? May be 2 bases of a political party
Wed Oct 25, 2017, 11:03 AM
Oct 2017

The loud base and the loyal base - both are important but they have different characteristics.
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