Jeff Flake is a pathetic weasel, not withstanding his attempted grandstanding.

[Coventina]

I just heard his post-speech interview on NPR, and it was just, well, pathetic.

Basically, he's too cowardly to face a possible pro-Trump primary.

He tries to say he's standing on principle, but really he's just running away from a real fight.

Then, when asked about whether Pence is enabling Trump's behavior, nothing came out but excuses.

"Oh, he's such a good man, we're such great friends. He's just in a really tough position, blah blah blah...."

Same story with Paul Ryan.

And, he's going to spend the next 14 months, enacting as much of Trump's agenda as possible.

Fuck you, Flake. You are nothing but a fake patriot.

Good riddance, now please sink into insignificance and obscurity.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

1. Agreed! nt

[mountain grammy]

2. Yeah, he gave his big patriotic speech

but won't call for impeachment. This is how the GOP moderates roll, love America, hate Americans, while gutting any shred of consumer protection from the likes of Wells Fargo, Equifax, et al.

[Doodley]

3. He won't win friends or influence people by saying "he's bad too, and so is he."

All he needs to do is attack Trump and encourage more Senators to do the same.

[Coventina]

8. No, he needs to actually STAND UP to Trump. Otherwise his words are meaningless. n/t

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[dalton99a]

13. Absolutely.

[Doodley]

27. Just be grateful he is attacking Trump more vigorously and publicly than most Democratic senators.

[Coventina]

29. No, I'm not going to "just be grateful". They need to take responsibility

and actually DO SOMETHING about it!

[NewJeffCT]

4. agreed on Flake

unless he starts consistently voting against the Trump Agenda, his supposed anti-Trump message is meaningless. "Words are Wind" as George R.R. Martin says.

[PubliusEnigma]

5. Did you even listen to the speech? I bet you didn't.

[Coventina]

7. I read the text of his speech. Sorry I was at work at the time he gave it.

What are you trying to prove?

He's a pathetic weasel.

I did listen to his words in the interview immediately following his speech.

He disgusts me.

[Demonaut]

26. his words during the speech carrried weight, his tone and his emphasis.

[Coventina]

31. And then he promptly voted to screw consumers.

His words mean nothing, no matter the tone.

[Demonaut]

32. I'm trying to look at the bigger picture, progressives need not be too rigid

lest we become like them

[Coventina]

34. Flake is an anti-LGBTQ, anti-choice, pro-NRA, climate change denier, and I'm being rigid?

That's rich.

[Blue_true]

17. But then he turned around and voted to allow banks to screw consumers.

I think he is avoiding a bloody primary fight and nothing else. Fuck speeches, actions count and that is all.

[Demonaut]

18. so he's still a republican...lol

[hopeforchange2008]

6. He dissembled on every substantive question

and mealy-mouthed when he was asked to critique any of the current cast of heinous characters. Not willing to walk the walk he spoke of so eloquently.

[Orrex]

9. Absolutely correct from first word to last

k/r

[Hassin Bin Sober]

10. Yep.

A) he supported trump in the election.

B) trump is just the latest manifestation of the hate the repigs have been fostering for 40 years.

C) he can go fuck himself.

[Coventina]

11. kicking, cuz I'm still mad.

[Demonaut]

12. I support his stand

[Coventina]

14. Can you point to anything tangible that he will accomplish with this "stand"?

[Demonaut]

15. a start

[Coventina]

19. That is nothing tangible. n/t

[Demonaut]

21. whatever...........

the enemy of my enemy is my friend

purists are a bane to debate

[Coventina]

22. I'm not asking for purity, I'm asking that he do SOMETHING

rather than just giving up and going home.

McCain at least voted against Obamacare repeal.

[Demonaut]

24. Flake is not McCain and he's not dying

every republican who speaks out may embolden more

[Coventina]

28. What kind of lame excuse is that?

Why do Republicans need to be "emboldened" to do the right thing?

[JI7]

16. just getting out the message that even right wing conservatives

Think trump is that bad.

[Coventina]

20. But not bad enough to actually take any action. n/t

[anamnua]

23. What I found disturbing

was not so much what he said but the way he said it: the tone of genuine fear in his voice. Does he know something none of the rest of us know?

[USALiberal]

25. Any GOP idiot who trashes Trumpster is better than any GOP idiot who supports him! n.t.

[Coventina]

30. No, not at all. Words mean nothing if actions don't follow.

And quitting does not qualify as an action.

[Demonaut]

33. do you expect them to agree with eveything you support?

quitting is not action...lighten up Francis

[Coventina]

35. He said he opposes Trump, but doesn't think he should be impeached?

If he's not in favor of removing Trump from office, what are the point of his words?

Especially when he said he will continue to support Trump's legislative agenda?

I think some requirement of action is not in the least unreasonable.

Get a clue, Francis.