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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy didn't they hire Puerto Ricans and Puerto Rican businesses to redo the electrical system?
And what about the idea of using solar and wind to produce electricity in Puerto Rico?
Not Ruth
(3,613 posts)SHRED
(28,136 posts)LonePirate
(13,413 posts)mahatmakanejeeves
(57,370 posts)who can do it.
Orrex
(63,189 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)When you break it down to its individual components its simple enough for anyone to do any phase of it. All you need is a few planners and the rest will take care of itself.
I guarantee you that the people of PR can do this work.
Elon Musk had a good idea too
onenote
(42,671 posts)Rebuilding the electrical grid of an island the size of Puerto Rico, isn't something that is done with pick-up labor. It's highly specialized and dangerous work, made all the more difficult given that transportation and access to the necessary resources on the island are severely compromised.
When Hurricane Ivan devastated the electrical grid on Grand Cayman in 2004, the local utility could never have handled the rebuild on its own. Fortunately, that utility was an affiliate of a much larger multi-national company, Fortis, which was able to draw resources from other countries to enable the restoration of power -- a task that still took months to complete.
The only entity authorized to provide electric generation and distribution on Puerto Rico is PREPA, a government owned company that declared bankruptcy in July. It's pure fantasy to think they would be in the position to manage restoration of power using the resources available to them on the island.
SHRED
(28,136 posts)That's a racist statement.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,500 posts)the UPR in Mayaguez which is a top school. Where are you getting this from?
DBoon
(22,353 posts)And because manly Trump supporters mine coal - wind and solar are for liberal granola eating hippies.
greytdemocrat
(3,299 posts)that have the connections to do it??
From what I had read after the storm
had passed, some of the transmission towers
need choppers to replace parts.
Having been and driven around PR many times
doing this job is going to be a huge effort.
Botany
(70,482 posts)SM seemed to be the one company .... and they looked like they did more
business and residential work.
That's what I had seen also. It's a
mammoth job.
madokie
(51,076 posts)Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)certain Rethug friends to rip off the taxpayers. Example,Jeb Bush created company to provide Pumps that were only able to provide about half the volume required,and had major operational as well as spotty reliability. FEMA bought Junk at premium price.
Someone posted the Daily Pay Rates for so called contract Employees,What a rip off.
shanny
(6,709 posts)to get involved? Using solar and batteries I assume. Don't remember the details--can anyone help me out?
eta: yup, he's doing it. already started https://www.cnbc.com/2017/10/25/tesla-first-puerto-rico-energy-project-to-help-rebuild-island.html
underpants
(182,730 posts)Because there was too much money involved.
ExciteBike66
(2,309 posts)MineralMan
(146,282 posts)outside people are called in. In the continental US, utility companies have mutual agreements that bring crews and equipment in from all over the country, if needed. We had a convoy of utility trucks with cherry pickers and cranes head down to Texas from Minnesota to help restore power.
Powerline work is skilled work, and dangerous work. Working on high-voltage main lines and even service lines requires a lot of safety training and established routines to prevent electrocution deaths. Existing crews and equipment in any area are inadequate when there is massive damage. In Puerto Rico, there is no road available to get trucks and crews from the continental US there. It is going to require a contractor with the capacity to move in and get the restoration job done in any sort of timely way. There is no way that locals can be recruited, trained and supplied with the necessary equipment required.
So, some company with adequate equipment and crews needed to be hired. Was that company the right one? I have no idea, but there is a stink around how the contract was awarded. But it's not just a matter of hiring a bunch of local workers. Everyone needs to be a thoroughly trained powerline worker, and specialized equipment in large numbers will also be needed.
As for Elon Musk's plan to bring in his Power Wall technology, that's all well and good, but supplying an entire island with 4 million people with that will take years to accomplish, and Puerto Rico does not have years to get electrical power up and running. Not in any way at all.
People are misunderstanding the scope of the work, equipment, supplies, and training that is needed to restore power after a natural disaster. Otherwise they would never suggest that it could be done with internal PR resources..
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,370 posts)MineralMan
(146,282 posts)-William Tecumseh Sherman
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,370 posts)Never mind; William Tecumseh Sherman:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shermanesque_statement
brush
(53,759 posts)Not to mention all those in line to get kickbacks from Zinke's neighbor who got the 300m contract.
FSogol
(45,466 posts)octoberlib
(14,971 posts)onenote
(42,671 posts)The answer: None. PREPA (Puerto Rico Electric Power Authority) is a government owned corporation and is the only company authorized to engage in the business of electricity generation, power distribution, and power transmission on Puerto Rico. In addition to the fact that it's facilities were devastated by the hurricane, it had declared bankruptcy in July.
Thus, it has to look elsewhere to obtain, via contract, the services needed to rebuild the grid.
The situation is not unlike that in Grand Cayman, after Hurricane Ivan decimated the island's power generation and distribution capabilities. The local utility, Caribbean Utilities Corporation, needed assistance from Fortis, an outside entity which had a partial ownership interest in CUC, to supply the resources to restore power.
https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Fortis+Inc.%3a+Caribbean+Utilities+Working+to+Restore+Power+on+Grand...-a0122108308
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)union wages are required for this job?
This SCANDAL has no meaning anymore. America is proud to be the 2nd most corrupt nation going.