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hexola

(4,835 posts)
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 02:43 PM Oct 2017

TRUMP ON DOPE: "JUST SAY NO"

For christs sake - its Nancy Reagan all over again!!!

This whole "plan" is a huge nothing burger!

They even had Melania - dressed like the Grim Reaper - do the intro!

Pretty clear he has failed to grasp the difference between the current Opiate problem and broader problem of drug abuse.

A "drug free society" is not what this about...

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TRUMP ON DOPE: "JUST SAY NO" (Original Post) hexola Oct 2017 OP
I heard earlier there's only $56,000 in the public health emergency fund so Vinca Oct 2017 #1
Looks like it EarlG Oct 2017 #2
Remember the skillet with butter sizzling drug ad? ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #3
butter was drugs, brain was egg lapfog_1 Oct 2017 #6
That's the one ProudLib72 Oct 2017 #9
We should say "nope to the Dotard"! imanamerican63 Oct 2017 #4
Just using 1/2 of your OP title is accurate. TRUMP ON DOPE. n/t LuckyCharms Oct 2017 #5
No, he NEEDS meds for his various mental illnesses along with decades of therapy. BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #8
As usual I chose not to watch the moron. BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #7
This hits home for me burnbaby Oct 2017 #10
He wont do anything unless he gets a benefit from it Freethinker65 Oct 2017 #12
I agree with you here. dpd3672 Oct 2017 #14
I dont think a sociopathic narcissist can have feelings. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #20
Thanks so much for weighing in on this and for your informed comments Rhiannon12866 Oct 2017 #23
Can we say no to that dope? Initech Oct 2017 #11
Why didn't he name the drug he said he would ban? hexola Oct 2017 #13
I believe he mentioned fentanyl. panader0 Oct 2017 #18
Yes - but this was a different part of the speech - and he did NOT name it. hexola Oct 2017 #19
The drug isnt the problem plus most of it is made on the street from what I heard. Eliot Rosewater Oct 2017 #21
FCS the idiot doesn't have an original thought in his pee brain. arthritisR_US Oct 2017 #15
White Trumps on Dope C_U_L8R Oct 2017 #16
"Just Say Don't to Donuts" mahatmakanejeeves Oct 2017 #17
DOPE ON TRUMP: "What a fucking moron" snort Oct 2017 #22

Vinca

(50,236 posts)
1. I heard earlier there's only $56,000 in the public health emergency fund so
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 02:49 PM
Oct 2017

the plan must be to print up "Just Say No" posters. He's so full of shit about everything.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
3. Remember the skillet with butter sizzling drug ad?
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 02:49 PM
Oct 2017

Someone needs to take that and rework the narration to be "This is Republicanism. This is your brain on Republicanism. Any questions?"

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
9. That's the one
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 02:55 PM
Oct 2017

Only this time around, the butter is Republicanism.

Dotard would watch it and say, "Mmmmm, butter and eggs. I need a red button on my desk for butter and eggs."

BigmanPigman

(51,565 posts)
7. As usual I chose not to watch the moron.
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 02:53 PM
Oct 2017

I did read the scroll at the booth of the screed which said, "45 declares a national health emergency". I thought that a more accurate scroll should read, "45 IS a national health emergency" since he has caused more illnesses and deaths due to his ACA and subsidies repeal, the lack of disaster relief efforts in Puerto Rico, and the millions who never had depression/anxiety on a daily basis since Nov 8th.

 

burnbaby

(685 posts)
10. This hits home for me
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 02:55 PM
Oct 2017

Have to go with my heart on this. I hope trump follows thru on this horrific epidemic. It did remind me of Nancy but I will accept all the help and support we get. It was a good speech he did it with passion

Freethinker65

(9,999 posts)
12. He wont do anything unless he gets a benefit from it
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 03:08 PM
Oct 2017

Now if he, or his family/buddies/donors have a stake in treatment clinics, maybe some government $$$ can be siphoned off.

 

dpd3672

(82 posts)
14. I agree with you here.
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 03:11 PM
Oct 2017

Good or bad on other issues, this does hit him personally and close to home, I have no doubt about his sincerity regarding addiction and the damage it can cause. He did lose a sibling, and seems to have been deeply affected; he's avoided drugs and alcohol his whole life as a result.

That said, comparing the current Opiate problem with the 80s war on drugs isn't a perfect comparison. The issue in the 80s was more about violence toward others (prior to the drug gangs committing high profile violence, the drug problem was largely ignored), the current problem is unique for several reasons.

First of all, Opiate addicts are dying in unbelievable numbers. I'm a first responder, and used to get maybe one overdose a month a few years back. We're now getting several a DAY, and not only are there tons of deaths, but the ones that are revived are putting a huge drain on resources...tying up police, EMS, and hospital personnel, and the expense of the "antidote," Naloxone, can approach a few THOUSAND dollars per week...per addict (if they're revived more than once, as they often are). This is not practically sustainable, and even if it were, it's tying up an unbelievable amount of resources that could be used to do a lot of good elsewhere.

Secondly, a large number of opiate addicts get hooked through no fault of their own. Doctors are way too quick to prescribe opiates, and as a result, people with no desire to do drugs recreationally are becoming junkies simply by following their doctors' orders to manage pain from injuries or chronic illnesses. The people we're finding overdosed are house wives, high school kids, and professionals...not lifelong drug abusers who got a bad dose through dumb luck. I know it's wrong to make these moral judgements, but it's a lot harder to find sympathy for someone who chooses to do heroin recreationally...it's a lot easier when it's a mother of 3 that got a script for Tylenol 3 for a broken ankle 2 years ago.

And apologies for typos here, hard to proof read on my phone, but wanted to chime in on this issue, it's one I also feel a bit passionate about.

Rhiannon12866

(204,715 posts)
23. Thanks so much for weighing in on this and for your informed comments
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 12:08 AM
Oct 2017

I live in a fairly small town - Northeastern NY - and we hear about overdoses (and arrests) nearly every day. I agree that it's become a national epidemic. I also know people who have died from overdoses, know even more who can list numerous friends who have died. I also know people in treatment and those who work with them, but it's like a runaway train, not nearly enough.

Welcome to DU, dpd3672! It's great to have you with us!

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
13. Why didn't he name the drug he said he would ban?
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 03:10 PM
Oct 2017

WTF was that...SAY IT!!!

Who is he protecting?

 

hexola

(4,835 posts)
19. Yes - but this was a different part of the speech - and he did NOT name it.
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 03:47 PM
Oct 2017

I heard the Fentanyl part - but that was mostly in regard to China and the black market...

He said he would ban a drug that is evil - and didn't name it...it had to a legal script in the context he spoke of it.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
21. The drug isnt the problem plus most of it is made on the street from what I heard.
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 05:23 PM
Oct 2017

All painkillers are needed to kill pain, but what we will do, especially with that stupid FUCK in the WH is we will punish those who NEED painkillers.

I am sure that is what will end up happening.

Oxycontin was made to addict and profit, so I guess you could get rid of that, maybe.

Fentanyl patches are a very necessary drug for those who NEED it.

Morphine, etc. NEEDED

C_U_L8R

(44,986 posts)
16. White Trumps on Dope
Thu Oct 26, 2017, 03:28 PM
Oct 2017

I go crazy 'cause my folks are so fucking rich
Have to score when I get that rich white punk itch
Sounds real classy, living in a chateau
So lonely, all the other kids will never know

We're white trumps on dope
Mom & dad live in Merde-a-Lag
Hang myself when I get enough rope
Can't clean up, though I know I should
White trumps on dope
White trumps on dope

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