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BE PREPARED: Trump might try to fire Mueller this weekend (Original Post) DesertRat Oct 2017 OP
I will go downtown to the Capital building. madaboutharry Oct 2017 #1
Same here. nt DesertRat Oct 2017 #6
I'll be there. Kath2 Oct 2017 #2
Rosenstein has to fire him I thought? Satch59 Oct 2017 #3
Earlier Today, I Thought Him Bringing Up The Hillary Thing Was Just His Cover ChoppinBroccoli Oct 2017 #4
I think you're right. nt DesertRat Oct 2017 #7
Ahhhh, shit. Thats entirely plausible. Nevernose Oct 2017 #15
Here's my guess. Pacifist Patriot Oct 2017 #46
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2017 #37
one suspects the trump mob already knows what indictments against who nt msongs Oct 2017 #5
Mueller facing new Republican pressure to resign in Russia probe IronLionZion Oct 2017 #8
Oh wow WTF uponit7771 Oct 2017 #38
RW idiots are claiming Mueller was colluding with Russia and Hillary the whole time IronLionZion Oct 2017 #41
+1 uponit7771 Oct 2017 #44
BE PREPARED: Trump might resign this weekend L. Coyote Oct 2017 #9
Hope you're right and Trump resigns. DesertRat Oct 2017 #11
They mean he'll order it.nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #30
And DesertRat ... LenaBaby61 Oct 2017 #10
Hope it's all hands on deck at the WH Adult Daycare center this weekend! DesertRat Oct 2017 #13
Hope it's all hands on deck at the WH Adult Daycare center this weekend! LenaBaby61 Oct 2017 #16
OH F**K! workinclasszero Oct 2017 #12
Doesn't Rosenstein MontanaMama Oct 2017 #14
Did Congress not pass that bill prohibiting firing Special Counsel w/o Congressional review? Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #27
I didn't think it passed but MontanaMama Oct 2017 #29
I checked. The bill didn't pass but is still open. Not much support, looks like. nt Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #31
Thanks for taking the time MontanaMama Oct 2017 #34
I don't think so. LudwigPastorius Oct 2017 #17
It might not just be ny Hornedfrog1985 Oct 2017 #23
I wonder why they released this story on a Friday More_Cowbell Oct 2017 #18
Because Hornedfrog1985 Oct 2017 #19
To change the media topic, stop the FOX "uranium" wildfire, and get ahead of leaks. NOW the traitors WinkyDink Oct 2017 #39
"abandon their propaganda"? Nah. They double down. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #43
Maybe they want to see who runs? workinclasszero Oct 2017 #21
It doesn't matter to a criminal indictment if the base is riled up. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #22
That it's Friday...maybe to keep the news on it down. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #26
A few theories: Nevernose Oct 2017 #32
make a lot of people sweat Skittles Oct 2017 #35
So people will panic and make mistakes IronLionZion Oct 2017 #45
Well they say if he fires Mueller there would be a Constitutional doc03 Oct 2017 #20
A lawsuit going to the Supreme Court. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #24
The Republicans own the SC and no as long as they control the SC I don't think doc03 Oct 2017 #28
You could be right. Then again, their ruling would apply to all Presidents for all time. Honeycombe8 Oct 2017 #33
Not necessarily. In Bush v. Gore, the SCOTUS declared sui generis, setting no precedent. WinkyDink Oct 2017 #40
Saturday night massacre? George II Oct 2017 #25
Friday night news drop on this is... Xolodno Oct 2017 #36
ill advised mnmoderatedem Oct 2017 #42

Satch59

(1,353 posts)
3. Rosenstein has to fire him I thought?
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 11:39 PM
Oct 2017

And I heard Mueller's former assistant on CNN saying that Rosenstein had to sign off on the charges or not dispute them so that's been done... Doubt Rosenstein would agree to fire him.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
4. Earlier Today, I Thought Him Bringing Up The Hillary Thing Was Just His Cover
Fri Oct 27, 2017, 11:43 PM
Oct 2017

Trump is going to say that the fact that Mueller was "in bed" with Hillary makes him not an impartial party, and therefore he has NO CHOICE but to fire him. I think that's why all this BS about the uranium and the dossier have started coming out in the last few days. He was laying the groundwork to label Mueller as a "Hillary stooge" and then fire him on that basis.

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
15. Ahhhh, shit. Thats entirely plausible.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:28 AM
Oct 2017

The real question at this point, for me, at least: why did the judge wait out the weekend for the arrest? If it was anyone else, there would have already been a frog march.

My guess is that “they” are hoping that “other stuff” happens over the weekend and all of this goes away.

Pacifist Patriot

(24,653 posts)
46. Here's my guess.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:05 PM
Oct 2017

The person or persons being arrested have already been informed. The weekend is being spent negotiating the details of two things. 1) How, where, and when they will turn themselves in. Logistics stuff in other words. 2) The deal where they get some degree of leniency for providing evidence against bigger fish about to be fried.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
41. RW idiots are claiming Mueller was colluding with Russia and Hillary the whole time
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 09:24 AM
Oct 2017


So that means Mueller definitely has found something good

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
9. BE PREPARED: Trump might resign this weekend
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:19 AM
Oct 2017

Trump might "try to" fire Mueller this weekend? Trump can't fire Mueller. He doesn't have the authority to fire Mueller.

LenaBaby61

(6,974 posts)
10. And DesertRat ...
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:20 AM
Oct 2017

The treasonous ass could also start a war with North Korea unfortunately.

And, whose to stop him

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
12. OH F**K!
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:23 AM
Oct 2017

Will Bone Spur act out with his inner Hitler this weekend???

Gee a nuclear sneak attack on NK would take this huge breaking news right off the front page eh?

MontanaMama

(23,312 posts)
14. Doesn't Rosenstein
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:26 AM
Oct 2017

have to be the one to fire Mueller? I'd he refuses to do it and Dotard fires him and moves down the food chain to whom? I should have researched this... Never thought we'd actually be here.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
27. Did Congress not pass that bill prohibiting firing Special Counsel w/o Congressional review?
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:57 AM
Oct 2017

I looked it up. It was introduced, but no action taken.

MontanaMama

(23,312 posts)
29. I didn't think it passed but
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 01:01 AM
Oct 2017

I might be mistaken. However, congress can't seem to find its ass with both hands these days...hope it isn't up to them.

MontanaMama

(23,312 posts)
34. Thanks for taking the time
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 01:14 AM
Oct 2017

to look it up. At least it hasn't failed...I wish Mueller had some protection. It'll be an interesting weekend to be sure.

LudwigPastorius

(9,137 posts)
17. I don't think so.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:38 AM
Oct 2017

Trump will, however, warm up his pardon pen.

Fortunately, this won't help Manafort with the state charges that New York AG Schneiderman will file against him.

More_Cowbell

(2,191 posts)
18. I wonder why they released this story on a Friday
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:44 AM
Oct 2017

Wouldn't it have been better to just charge people in the morning and actually arrest them that day, instead of giving Trump the weekend to try to fire Mueller or at least rile up his base?

 

Hornedfrog1985

(118 posts)
19. Because
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:47 AM
Oct 2017

They felt they had to do it now, or they had no control of when it came out. Something tells me that they felt they needed to do this now. Mueller has ears everywhere im sure.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
39. To change the media topic, stop the FOX "uranium" wildfire, and get ahead of leaks. NOW the traitors
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 07:52 AM
Oct 2017

have to get serious about reality and abandon their propaganda.

The CRIMINALS, if not the Deplorables, know what they've done. THEY don't believe the lies of FOX and SHS!

The CRIMINALS, if not the Deplorables, know the danger they face from Mueller. They know they can't depend on Trump to pardon them.

The CRIMINALS know they need to spend some quality time with their lawyers, not with the media.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
22. It doesn't matter to a criminal indictment if the base is riled up.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:52 AM
Oct 2017

But he COULD try to fire Mueller. The charges have been filed, though. Firing Mueller would hamper the investigation tremendously going forward.

Firing Mueller would create a constitutional crisis, as others have mentioned. But didn't Congress pass a bill requiring Congressional review before Prez can fire a special counsel?

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
26. That it's Friday...maybe to keep the news on it down.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:56 AM
Oct 2017

Mueller would know this would be explosive.

Why not do it on same day as arrest...that's a good question. He must think there's no risk of flight. Or maybe the guy knows he's going to be charged, so he has the weekend to prepare?

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
32. A few theories:
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 01:08 AM
Oct 2017

1. That someone in DC is stupid enough to believe that there’s a chance Trump will resign before he is shamed.
2. Judge is blackmailed, extorted, or on the take.
2a. Judge is politically ambitious.
3. Mueller’s got nothing worthwhile.
4. Mueller’s got something, but it’s obvious Trump/GOP will dismiss it instantly.
5. Mueller asked judge to wait, as a strategy to put pressure on people to flip.
6. Manafort, Flynn, Page, combination. They’re not going anywhere.
7. Stupidity
8. Mueller broke protocol, bypassed superiors, and this is judge’s practical compromise
9. A hundred other things I can’t even brainstorm.

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
45. So people will panic and make mistakes
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 11:18 AM
Oct 2017

whoever squirms is probably guilty of something and should be investigated more closely

Just my $0.02

doc03

(35,328 posts)
20. Well they say if he fires Mueller there would be a Constitutional
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:47 AM
Oct 2017

Crisis? WTF does that mean? The Republicans are going to back him no matter what.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
24. A lawsuit going to the Supreme Court.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:53 AM
Oct 2017

Yes, the S.Ct. is conservative. But remember...however they rule, that will hold for all Presidents of either party in the future. In any case, that would decide a constitutional crisis.

doc03

(35,328 posts)
28. The Republicans own the SC and no as long as they control the SC I don't think
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:58 AM
Oct 2017

they would rule the same for a Democrat.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
33. You could be right. Then again, their ruling would apply to all Presidents for all time.
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 01:09 AM
Oct 2017

I know how Thomas and the new guy would vote. Roberts and Kennedy - don't know.

George II

(67,782 posts)
25. Saturday night massacre?
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 12:56 AM
Oct 2017

trump can't do it. Rosenstein won't do it. Who's next in line? Can trump channel Bork?

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
36. Friday night news drop on this is...
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 03:23 AM
Oct 2017

...I dare you to get someone to fire me on Saturday night like Nixon.

Trump is going to go ape shit more than usual, that's for sure. But everyone around him is going to say, fire him and you may as well start writing your resignation letter. And this puts a GOP controlled Congress in a huge bind...they know full well, they cut funding for the investigation...they look complicit. And its not just a Federal Investigation, but also a state one, so if a state proceeds, a few more Congress people may as well state they aren't running for re-election.

They knew this was coming...someone had to call and say "do you have any comment to make on a story we are about to break on Mueller indicting..." Hence the Uranium and release the JFK files... A desperate attempt to bury the coming story.

mnmoderatedem

(3,727 posts)
42. ill advised
Sat Oct 28, 2017, 09:41 AM
Oct 2017

would be extremely messy both logistically and politically. Would need to go the Nixon/Cox route, and who knows HOW many he would have to go through before someone was willing to do the dirty deed of firing Mueller, plus the political fallout would be off the charts. I mean waiting to fire Mueller until after the indictments start falling would make the motive obvious even to Trump supporters right?

I know I know, too much credit.

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