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(40,209 posts)I know I will find others there.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Kath2
(3,074 posts)Peaceful protest. Everyone be visible.
Satch59
(1,353 posts)And I heard Mueller's former assistant on CNN saying that Rosenstein had to sign off on the charges or not dispute them so that's been done... Doubt Rosenstein would agree to fire him.
ChoppinBroccoli
(3,784 posts)Trump is going to say that the fact that Mueller was "in bed" with Hillary makes him not an impartial party, and therefore he has NO CHOICE but to fire him. I think that's why all this BS about the uranium and the dossier have started coming out in the last few days. He was laying the groundwork to label Mueller as a "Hillary stooge" and then fire him on that basis.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)Nevernose
(13,081 posts)The real question at this point, for me, at least: why did the judge wait out the weekend for the arrest? If it was anyone else, there would have already been a frog march.
My guess is that they are hoping that other stuff happens over the weekend and all of this goes away.
Pacifist Patriot
(24,653 posts)The person or persons being arrested have already been informed. The weekend is being spent negotiating the details of two things. 1) How, where, and when they will turn themselves in. Logistics stuff in other words. 2) The deal where they get some degree of leniency for providing evidence against bigger fish about to be fried.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)msongs
(67,395 posts)IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)It's not satire, it's Fox News
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/10/27/mueller-facing-new-republican-pressure-to-resign-in-russia-probe.html
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)So that means Mueller definitely has found something good
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Trump might "try to" fire Mueller this weekend? Trump can't fire Mueller. He doesn't have the authority to fire Mueller.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)But I doubt it.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)The treasonous ass could also start a war with North Korea unfortunately.
And, whose to stop him
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)LenaBaby61
(6,974 posts)IKR
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Will Bone Spur act out with his inner Hitler this weekend???
Gee a nuclear sneak attack on NK would take this huge breaking news right off the front page eh?
MontanaMama
(23,312 posts)have to be the one to fire Mueller? I'd he refuses to do it and Dotard fires him and moves down the food chain to whom? I should have researched this... Never thought we'd actually be here.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I looked it up. It was introduced, but no action taken.
MontanaMama
(23,312 posts)I might be mistaken. However, congress can't seem to find its ass with both hands these days...hope it isn't up to them.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)MontanaMama
(23,312 posts)to look it up. At least it hasn't failed...I wish Mueller had some protection. It'll be an interesting weekend to be sure.
LudwigPastorius
(9,137 posts)Trump will, however, warm up his pardon pen.
Fortunately, this won't help Manafort with the state charges that New York AG Schneiderman will file against him.
Hornedfrog1985
(118 posts)Trump is in so deep
More_Cowbell
(2,191 posts)Wouldn't it have been better to just charge people in the morning and actually arrest them that day, instead of giving Trump the weekend to try to fire Mueller or at least rile up his base?
Hornedfrog1985
(118 posts)They felt they had to do it now, or they had no control of when it came out. Something tells me that they felt they needed to do this now. Mueller has ears everywhere im sure.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)have to get serious about reality and abandon their propaganda.
The CRIMINALS, if not the Deplorables, know what they've done. THEY don't believe the lies of FOX and SHS!
The CRIMINALS, if not the Deplorables, know the danger they face from Mueller. They know they can't depend on Trump to pardon them.
The CRIMINALS know they need to spend some quality time with their lawyers, not with the media.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,000 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)But he COULD try to fire Mueller. The charges have been filed, though. Firing Mueller would hamper the investigation tremendously going forward.
Firing Mueller would create a constitutional crisis, as others have mentioned. But didn't Congress pass a bill requiring Congressional review before Prez can fire a special counsel?
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Mueller would know this would be explosive.
Why not do it on same day as arrest...that's a good question. He must think there's no risk of flight. Or maybe the guy knows he's going to be charged, so he has the weekend to prepare?
Nevernose
(13,081 posts)1. That someone in DC is stupid enough to believe that theres a chance Trump will resign before he is shamed.
2. Judge is blackmailed, extorted, or on the take.
2a. Judge is politically ambitious.
3. Muellers got nothing worthwhile.
4. Muellers got something, but its obvious Trump/GOP will dismiss it instantly.
5. Mueller asked judge to wait, as a strategy to put pressure on people to flip.
6. Manafort, Flynn, Page, combination. Theyre not going anywhere.
7. Stupidity
8. Mueller broke protocol, bypassed superiors, and this is judges practical compromise
9. A hundred other things I cant even brainstorm.
Skittles
(153,150 posts)IronLionZion
(45,433 posts)whoever squirms is probably guilty of something and should be investigated more closely
Just my $0.02
doc03
(35,328 posts)Crisis? WTF does that mean? The Republicans are going to back him no matter what.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Yes, the S.Ct. is conservative. But remember...however they rule, that will hold for all Presidents of either party in the future. In any case, that would decide a constitutional crisis.
doc03
(35,328 posts)they would rule the same for a Democrat.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I know how Thomas and the new guy would vote. Roberts and Kennedy - don't know.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)trump can't do it. Rosenstein won't do it. Who's next in line? Can trump channel Bork?
Xolodno
(6,390 posts)...I dare you to get someone to fire me on Saturday night like Nixon.
Trump is going to go ape shit more than usual, that's for sure. But everyone around him is going to say, fire him and you may as well start writing your resignation letter. And this puts a GOP controlled Congress in a huge bind...they know full well, they cut funding for the investigation...they look complicit. And its not just a Federal Investigation, but also a state one, so if a state proceeds, a few more Congress people may as well state they aren't running for re-election.
They knew this was coming...someone had to call and say "do you have any comment to make on a story we are about to break on Mueller indicting..." Hence the Uranium and release the JFK files... A desperate attempt to bury the coming story.
mnmoderatedem
(3,727 posts)would be extremely messy both logistically and politically. Would need to go the Nixon/Cox route, and who knows HOW many he would have to go through before someone was willing to do the dirty deed of firing Mueller, plus the political fallout would be off the charts. I mean waiting to fire Mueller until after the indictments start falling would make the motive obvious even to Trump supporters right?
I know I know, too much credit.