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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI think the euphoria around here is a little too much too early.
And a let down is likely.
Tomorrow there may be arrests but they might not be anyone we know about.
They might even be kept secret, couldn't they?
I doubt Mueller will publicize them.
This is just the beginning and I too hope it will end in justice and elimination of a dangerous corruption of our government but I don't expect a lot of satisfaction from these first indictments.
I do hope the euphoria will be justified at some point soon, though.
blue cat
(2,415 posts)I've been let down too many times.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)You know how this works.
Been playing this game since Nixon was pardoned.
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)...Trump, Manafort, Pence, Russia...
FreeState
(10,570 posts)Mueller's Special Counsel's Office will make public an indictment on Monday, a U.S. official with firsthand knowledge of the process confirmed to NBC News, without disclosing the name of the target or the nature of the charges. The timing was confirmed by a second source familiar with the matter.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/grand-jury-approves-first-charges-mueller-s-russia-probe-report-n815246
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Which puts us right where we currently are.
FreeState
(10,570 posts)Kleveland
(1,257 posts)But you know what they say:
"Wish in one hand, shit in the other. See which one gets filled first."
When a person wants the impossible.
True Dough
(17,300 posts)when I didn't have tacos for dinner?
jalan48
(13,854 posts)I'm hoping Mueller has something substantial that includes Trump and not just his underlings. After that it we will need some Republicans to side with the Democrats in taking down Trump. Lots of "ifs".
emulatorloo
(44,108 posts)get evidence and testimony from them, use that to nail upper eschelon. Somebody reminded us that this is similar to taking down a drug cartel. Arrest the mules, make a deal, get them to finger the folks above. Rinse and repeat until you have enough to get the kingpin.
As someone else noted this is a marathon, not a sprint.
jalan48
(13,854 posts)emulatorloo
(44,108 posts)Trump and his syncophants have been hysterical, so they seem to think this is going somewhere big.
jalan48
(13,854 posts)emulatorloo
(44,108 posts)jalan48
(13,854 posts)FreeState
(10,570 posts)Im sorry I cant remember the guests name but Maddow asked her if he will use these inditements to pressure them and she said no, that dont work that way. They use pre-indictment scare by informing them they will be indited.
She said these serve to scare those higher up the food chain, but that its not a tool to get them to talk at this point.
emulatorloo
(44,108 posts)emulatorloo
(44,108 posts)these investigations work. But I don't think too many DU'ers think that.
Source below says they will be made public, so that's good. Will be fun to see how Trump responds to that.
CousinIT
(9,238 posts)it will NOT be Trump or Kushner.
emulatorloo
(44,108 posts)Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Patience....he needs to get it right, and down to the money, literally!
PubliusEnigma
(1,583 posts)Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)Towlie
(5,324 posts)emulatorloo
(44,108 posts)UTUSN
(70,672 posts)RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)the fact that there will be ANY arrests is cause for a bit of euphoria.
I too think it may be lower level functionary(ies) arrested -- but who knows? I've seen far more experienced people than I predict KUSHNER, which would be like heaven.
Talking about this reminds me of this video I just have to post in case anyone missed it -- I've watched this a bunch of times. I think it's perfect, and I love it. The music is so poignant and the work done modifying the original video is incredible, IMO. AND, we all want exactly this, don't we?
Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)emulatorloo
(44,108 posts)Reporting is very very careful so far.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Published on Dec 27, 2016
Watch the final White House concert hosted by President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama: BET's Love and Happiness.
Sunlei
(22,651 posts)Bradshaw3
(7,505 posts)drumpf is impeached and he and all of his slimy fellow travelers are in jail. Oh and when the Democrats take control of Congress and win the Presidency. Until then I think we've got choppy seas ahead, indictments notwithstanding.
Skittles
(153,138 posts)that ALONE makes it worth it
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)Link to earlier thread: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029765589
Just pointing out how different peoples' perspectives can be. Carry on...