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**BREAKING** CNN- Charges Against Manafort And Gates Include Conspiracy Against The United States (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 OP
Hard rain's about to fall The Blue Flower Oct 2017 #1
trickle down justice? 0rganism Oct 2017 #42
If so, Trump knew nothing about it dalton99a Oct 2017 #2
Better yet, it was HRC and Obama Iliyah Oct 2017 #5
He's never even met Manafort, believe me. LisaL Oct 2017 #8
Us the people of the United States of America demand to be made whole. Madam45for2923 Oct 2017 #3
When I heard them read the list and heard BigmanPigman Oct 2017 #4
Conspiracy against the United States? Ohiya Oct 2017 #6
That was my first though! get the red out Oct 2017 #9
Great minds and all that! Ohiya Oct 2017 #14
The conspiracy charge is not treason davekriss Oct 2017 #21
Well we can always hope for the best... Ohiya Oct 2017 #23
Holy Moly ismnotwasm Oct 2017 #7
I was going to say "Holy Shit!" Kaleva Oct 2017 #10
Happy Muellerween! DesertRat Oct 2017 #11
lol Catherine Vincent Oct 2017 #22
(CONSPIRACY AGAINST U.S.) Is that espionage? workinclasszero Oct 2017 #12
It stems from their scheme to hide taxable money, presumably gained illegally. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #13
Oh okay thanks workinclasszero Oct 2017 #16
LOL DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #19
It was conspiracy to conceal foreign payments from the US government. OliverQ Oct 2017 #15
Thanks for the info workinclasszero Oct 2017 #17
Very serious. The money laundering charge alone carries up to 20 years in prison. OliverQ Oct 2017 #31
Gee charges like that might lead a person to make a deal with the prosecutor workinclasszero Oct 2017 #34
None of the charges have anything to do with the Russia investigation. former9thward Oct 2017 #18
Thank you for bringing that to our attention and kicking my thread. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #24
Always want to help a friend. former9thward Oct 2017 #38
Please kick this thread DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #43
Give it time...a great day for the good guys (not Trump or Trumpettes) Demsrule86 Oct 2017 #28
Some of these charges were crimes that happened while he was chairman of the campaign. OliverQ Oct 2017 #32
Actually, they DO! 3rd indictee plead guilty about "dirt on Hillary" used to entice Don Jr. Bernardo de La Paz Oct 2017 #35
Thank you Cosmocat Oct 2017 #36
Yeah. A BFD. MelissaB Oct 2017 #20
Just the beginning. BumRushDaShow Oct 2017 #25
We can safely say we're happy we're not Paul Manafort or Rick Gates. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #26
Or Kushner BumRushDaShow Oct 2017 #27
In any case it's more bad news cycles for the most unpopular president in history* DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2017 #29
RICO BumRushDaShow Oct 2017 #30
RICO workinclasszero Oct 2017 #41
FOX NEWS Headline soon Johnny2X2X Oct 2017 #33
LOL - I don't know whether your post is real or satire. Vinca Oct 2017 #37
Fox is literally trying to argue that "Hillary is worse" now. "Conspiracy against US" no biggie anneboleyn Oct 2017 #40
republican traitors against America suck... Achilleaze Oct 2017 #39

Ohiya

(2,230 posts)
6. Conspiracy against the United States?
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 09:16 AM
Oct 2017

Is there another name for this?

Maybe starting with a T and ending with reason?

davekriss

(4,616 posts)
21. The conspiracy charge is not treason
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 09:30 AM
Oct 2017

As near as I can tell, it’s 923.18 USC paragraph 371, which carries a maximum of 5 years in prison. I hope I’m wrong - any legal experts know more?

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
15. It was conspiracy to conceal foreign payments from the US government.
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 09:24 AM
Oct 2017

Not sure if that falls under espionage or something else.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
31. Very serious. The money laundering charge alone carries up to 20 years in prison.
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 10:05 AM
Oct 2017

And that's probably one of the less serious charges he'll face.

former9thward

(31,986 posts)
18. None of the charges have anything to do with the Russia investigation.
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 09:27 AM
Oct 2017

It is all about lobbying and other matters resulting from their activities in Ukraine. Some reach back to 2008.

 

OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
32. Some of these charges were crimes that happened while he was chairman of the campaign.
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 10:06 AM
Oct 2017

So while it doesn't specifically mention the campaign, it's related.

Bernardo de La Paz

(49,000 posts)
35. Actually, they DO! 3rd indictee plead guilty about "dirt on Hillary" used to entice Don Jr.
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 11:14 AM
Oct 2017

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/george-papadopolous-trump-russia-probe_us_59f7354be4b07fdc5fbfa210
(emphasis added)

WASHINGTON ― A foreign policy adviser to President Donald Trump’s presidential campaign has pleaded guilty to a charge of lying to FBI agents.

George Papadopoulos, 30, pleaded guilty on Oct. 5, 2017, but the case wasn’t unsealed until Monday, when two other Trump associates were indicted by a federal grand jury. Papadopoulos reached a plea deal with prosecutors, and has since been cooperating with special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Prosecutors’ statement of the offense alleges Papadopoulos “made material false statements and material omissions” during a Jan. 27, 2017, interview with the FBI. He was arrested July 27. Prosecutors agreed to recommend between no prison time to six months under the plea agreement.

Papadopoulos told the FBI an overseas professor had “told him about the Russians possessing ‘dirt’ on then-candidate Hillary Clinton in the form of ‘thousands of emails,’ but stated multiple times that he learned that information prior to joining the campaign,” according to court documents. In fact, Papadopoulos was contacted after he learned he’d be joining the campaign, and the professor only mentioned the “thousands of emails” after he’d been on the Trump campaign for more than a month.

BumRushDaShow

(128,895 posts)
27. Or Kushner
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 09:51 AM
Oct 2017

at some point, because he would be a link to the whole money-laundering thing as well. One wonders about his sudden trip to Saudi Arabia last week for "Middle East Peace talks" (he apparently just got back Saturday).

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
29. In any case it's more bad news cycles for the most unpopular president in history*
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 09:53 AM
Oct 2017









*at this point in his presidency.

Johnny2X2X

(19,059 posts)
33. FOX NEWS Headline soon
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 10:08 AM
Oct 2017

"Clinton Campaign Manager, Paul Manafort, indicted for Conspiracy against the US! What did Hillary know?"

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
39. republican traitors against America suck...
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 05:09 PM
Oct 2017

lowlife scum betraying the USA and pretending to be patriots wearing their phony, made-in-China republican flag lapel pins. Ptoooey. I spit upon republican TreasonWeasels and their fake patriotism, authentic treason.

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