Mueller inflicted a mortal wound today....but it is important to watch what happens next

[Horse with no Name]

Does trump inject himself and try to pardon or any other such intervention?

Or.....


Does trump say "see ya Paul".


I don't think it is by mistake that Mueller did it this way....trump won't be able to function if he has involvement here.

[lagomorph777]

1. Yup - a pardon will kick a backlash into high gear.

Mueller will jump on it as obstruction.
Dems will finally unify around it.
RePutins will be paralyzed because a few more will defect.

[Demsrule86]

3. Stop blaming Dems...there is no finally...and you need GOP types to unify around it.

Sick of the anti-Dem crap.

[JustAnotherGen]

5. +100

The GOP has all of the power here. ALL of it. Majority House, Majority Senate - and - they can always do what they did with Garland's Usurper and the recent Tax Bill they sent back to the House - just change the rules to a simple majority and take the this mother fucker down.

[Demsrule86]

10. Exactly, the Dems can't do it without GOP support...no sign of that.

Also if we win the House with sufficient numbers for impeachment and the Senate...without sufficient numbers for conviction, there is no point in impeaching Trump...you need a Senate that will convict. Pres Clinton was impeached but not convicted in the Senate...and the GOP had a blood bath of an election the next time...Gingrich resigned in fact.

[lagomorph777]

7. I haven't heard 100% of Dems demanding impeachment

That's what I meant by unifying. If you have evidence to the contrary, please share; you will make many people very happy - especially me.

[Demsrule86]

8. Why would they before an election? This would bring out Trump supporters who want to stop

impeachment. Also, there is no point in impeaching the president unless we have the votes both in the House for impeachment and in the Senate for conviction. If you can't get Trump out of office what would be the point...and stop complaining about Democrats.

[lagomorph777]

9. Who's complaining? I just need to know we can count on them to save the country

when the time comes.

[Demsrule86]

12. I feel like a voice in the wilderness...you get that unless we have sizable majorities in both

the house and the senate...we can't get rid of Trump? If we win the house and don't get the senate or have a small majority...we can't convict Trump so impeachment is a waste of time unless the GOP are on board...which is very doubtful...so what does it matter? It is very unlikely we will get a sufficient majority in the Senate to convict Trump with Democrats alone.

[lagomorph777]

13. "...when the time comes"

Agreed.

Meanwhile, Mueller can keep him very very busy. And RePutins in Congress who are actively obstructing justice can expect Mueller to expose them before the mid-term.

[Demsrule86]

14. It is very unlikely there will ever be a time that Dems alone can impeach so it is silly to take

the risk of increasing GOP voter turnout in the coming elections by filing articles of impeachment.

[lagomorph777]

15. You seem to still think we are on opposite sides of the debate?

We are not.

[Demsrule86]

16. Sorry...maybe I posted to the wrong person.

[Demsrule86]

17. The time won't come...There is no mathematical way to win a sufficient Democratic majority in the

Senate in order to have the 2/3 needed. We can win the House and impeach...but without conviction...it would be futile.

[lagomorph777]

18. Ah, yes, resistance is futile. We must give up. That will motivate our base.

'Cause voters love inaction; it's so inspiring.

[kentuck]

2. He will send a message to Manafort:

"Hang in there...I will see that you do not serve any time."

[FoxNewsSucks]

4. That's what I'm afraid of.

Lewis "Scooter" Libby hung in there, and successfully thwarted Fitzmas by obstructing the prosecution of everyone else. Then the lying criminal Bush bastard commuted his sentence and they all walked away free.

This time, Manafort and the Orange Asshole also have the help of the Kremlin. Putin won't hesitate to have any useful witnesses killed.

[madokie]

6. We're so up shit creek without a paddle.

BUT tRump is fucked six ways to sunday+

Couldn't happen to a more deserving cretin

[lagomorph777]

11. We do have a canoe.

Trump is in the water and has no idea how to swim.