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Mon Oct 30, 2017, 10:23 AM Oct 2017

Manafort & Gates "knowingly and intentionally conspired to defraud the US, TOGETHER WITH OTHERS"

Josh Barro‏ @jbarro
Notably, the indictment says Manafort and Gates conspired “together with others” to commit and conceal these crimes. Tick tick tick


COUNT ONE
(Conspiracy Against The United States)

37. Paragraphs 1 through 30 and 32 through 36 are incorporated here. 38. From in or about and between 2006 and 2017, both dates being approximate and inclusive, in the District of Columbia and elsewhere, the defendants PAUL J. MANAFORT, JR., and RICHARD W. GATES III, together with others, knowingly and intentionally conspired to defraud the United States by impeding, impairing, obstructing, and defeating the lawful governmental functions of a government agency, namely the Department of Justice and the Department of the Treasury, and to commit offenses against the United States, fo wit, the violations of law charged 23 in Counts Three through Six and Ten through Twelve.
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COUNT TWO
(Conspiracy To Launder Money)

41. In or around and between 2006 and 2016, both dates being approximate and inclusive, within the District of Columbia and elsewhere, the defendants PAUL J. MANAFORT, JR., and RICHARD W. GATES III, together with others, did knowingly and intentionally conspire to:

(a) transport, transmit, and transfer monetary instruments and funds from places outside the United States to and through places in the United States and from places in the United States to and through places outside the United States, with the intent to promote the carrying on of specified unlawful activity, to wit: a felony violation of the FARA, in violation of Title 22, United States Code, Sections 612 and 618 (the "Specified Unlawful Activity" ), contrary to Title 18, United States Code, Section 1956(a)(2)(A); and:

(b) conduct financial transactions, affecting interstate and foreign commerce, knowing that the property involved in the financial transactions would represent the proceeds of some form of unlawful activity, activity, and the transactions in fact would involve the proceeds of Specified Unlawful Activity, knowing that such financial transactions were designed in whole and in part (i) to engage in conduct constituting a violation of sections 72017206 of the internal Revenue Code of 1986, and (ii) to conceal and disguise the nature, location, source, ownership, and control of the proceeds of the Specified Unlawful Activity, contrary to Title 18, United States Code, Section 1956(a)(1)(A)(ii) and 1956(a)(1)(B)(i)


Indictment_OCR.pdf: https://www.dropbox.com/s/4ejxx6qh20i89ga/Indictment_OCR.pdf?dl=0

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Manafort & Gates "knowingly and intentionally conspired to defraud the US, TOGETHER WITH OTHERS" (Original Post) bigtree Oct 2017 OP
Together with others? Shell_Seas Oct 2017 #1
exactly bigtree Oct 2017 #3
The indictment is fascinating reading Sanity Claws Oct 2017 #2
Drumpf claims this was "years ago" so his base should dismiss it BumRushDaShow Oct 2017 #4

Sanity Claws

(21,841 posts)
2. The indictment is fascinating reading
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 10:56 AM
Oct 2017

Read paragraph 1. Manafort is accused of laundering money through 2016. The indictment lists some transactions but as an open indictment, more can be added later. In other words, I think Trump understands he is vulnerable because he received laundered money on real estate not explicitly listed in the indictment.

Read the end too. Mueller is seeking forfeiture. That is probably causing Trump to turn his pants brown because he knows that it would be used against him too.

While Trump may have been aware of his vulnerabilities earlier, seeing them in this indictment must have raised his anxiety level quite a bit.

BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
4. Drumpf claims this was "years ago" so his base should dismiss it
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 11:02 AM
Oct 2017

neglecting the fact that the OP text of the indictment under "COUNT TWO" says -

In or around and between 2006 and 2016, both dates being approximate and inclusive


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