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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy does Trump keep insisting there was "NO COLLUSION"?
Is he trying to distract from a more serious charge? I'm sure there are other charges that Mueller could look at and may look at in the future besides "collusion".
But Trump is a master at distraction and diversion.
What is he trying to do?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,674 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,994 posts)I think this was the "Russian dirt" that attracted Donald Jr., a man nearly as smart as his father.
http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/george-papadopolous-trump-russia-probe_us_59f7354be4b07fdc5fbfa210
(emphasis added)
George Papadopoulos, 30, pleaded guilty on Oct. 5, 2017, but the case wasnt unsealed until Monday, when two other Trump associates were indicted by a federal grand jury. Papadopoulos reached a plea deal with prosecutors, and has since been cooperating with special counsel Robert Muellers probe into Russian interference in the 2016 election.
Prosecutors statement of the offense alleges Papadopoulos made material false statements and material omissions during a Jan. 27, 2017, interview with the FBI. He was arrested July 27. Prosecutors agreed to recommend between no prison time to six months under the plea agreement.
Papadopoulos told the FBI an overseas professor had told him about the Russians possessing dirt on then-candidate Hillary Clinton in the form of thousands of emails, but stated multiple times that he learned that information prior to joining the campaign, according to court documents. In fact, Papadopoulos was contacted after he learned hed be joining the campaign, and the professor only mentioned the thousands of emails after hed been on the Trump campaign for more than a month.
Zambero
(8,964 posts)Lies and/or diversion is taking place.
PJMcK
(22,031 posts)Whenever Trump says one thing, you know it's the other. Ergo, when he says there was no collusion, you know there was. He's a terrible liar.
He's also an idiot. Consider that if he had stayed a private citizen-- rather than seeking elective office-- he could have probably spent the rest of his life keeping his businesses sliding in and out of the shadows. Instead, he let his ego get the better of him and now his whole life will be scrutinized.
Trump really is a stupid man.
Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)I focused on his mental state in my reply, but you are exactly right as well. He is incredibly stupid, and he also doesn't get nuance at all. I'm sure he believes that criminal conspiracies and collusion require guys with trenchcoats and sunglasses exchanging paper bags of money behind street lights. As you said, he's been engaging in this kind of behavior all his life, sometimes in the shadows but often right in plain sight.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)A bad combination of stupidity and out-of-control ego.
dalton99a
(81,451 posts)Repeat and repeat
Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)He's probably convinced himself of it as well. I really believe that when all is said and done that he'll be remembered more for his mental illness than he will for his corruption, which is a shame.
emulatorloo
(44,116 posts)(Which as we know is false, as Steele worked with Russian whistleblowers, who were exposing Russian Govt's interference on behalf of Trump campaign
So it is an attempt to distract.
It is also classic Republican 101: accuse others of what you are guilty of.
My favorite example of that was in 2004 when Dick Cheney said John Kerry had no moral compass and did not understand the difference between right and wrong.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)with such conviction. The man is not dealing with reality.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,406 posts)Lose the election????
Teh stoopid it burns!!!
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)There definitely is a conspiracy, though.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)librechik
(30,674 posts)Everyone knows it;s too difficult to remember all the details of a big lie. Therefore, at the end of the day the safest course is to deny deny deny. Even if you know they have you dead to rights.
After all, they still have to prove it. And that is even more difficult.
Heh, Pappadopoulos betrayed them all. Tick tick tick.
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)Conspiracy? Yeah, that probably applies.
Money laundering? Yeah, that probably applies too.
Foreign contibutions for political actions? Yeah, we're getting into that realm also.
Trump is an idiot who thinks he can distract and obstruct. It will work on the Trumplodytes, but Mueller and the Dream Team won't be distracted.
Bernardo de La Paz
(48,994 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)That's all I'm saying.
kentuck
(111,079 posts)But it is mentioned in the US Code.
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)but "conspiracy" is probably defined, in part, as "colluding, collaborating, or cooperating to plan a crime."
It's not a crime to collude with someone, unless the goal of the group collaboration is to commit a crime.
Trekologer
(997 posts)In Trump's mind he is the greatest thing ever. So if he had to rely on help from the Russians to win the election, then he wasn't the greatest. So in his mind, it would be a personal failure to even accept that Russia was working on his behalf.
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)learning about today. I really believe (and think tRump believed) that he could make all of his troubles go away after he got the power of the Presidency. He misunderstood that there is power in the office but he did not take into account that there is also relentless and deep scrutiny. This is especially true if there are red flags everywhere you turn. This was/is the case with tRump. Some things just dont look, sound or smell right.
So rather than sanitizing things and making it all go away, he brought more examination into his life and the campaign he had for the Presidency. As others have pointed out, trump has run a scheme his entire life. Nothing he has ever done has gone according to Hoyle. But he always managed to slip through and keep on pulling his stunts to get more money, even if he had to bend, twist and break laws to do it. So why would we expect him to run a clean campaign?
tRump has probably begun to wish he had never run for the Presidency. Howard Stern tried to warn him, but tRumps ego won and now he might be starting to understand what Stern meant. His life is under examination and about to be exposed for the world to see, including those who LUV him so much. Expect more lies to his base as he scrambles to save himself from certain prison time. I swear, you cant make this stuff up. What a book/movie this will be!
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)We are not obligated to live in his carefully constructed fantasy bubble.