A friend of mine was in a film with Kevin Spacey

[Siwsan]

It wasn’t one of his blockbusters, although it was filmed during his hey day. Her role as his murdered wife, in a flash back scene, was very small, but it was also the pivot point for the film.

What I remember her saying about him was that she found him to be a very weird guy. He barely said a word to her, so she thought, ok - it’s a job. Jeff Bridges was also in the film, and she found him to be wonderfully engaging, so if Spacey kept his distance, so be it. She had done enough work in Hollywood to have moved past the ‘star struck’ stage.

One day she was standing, watching some of the production work when she felt what she thought was someone’s breath on the back of her neck. She looked over her shoulder and he was standing right behind her, with just millimeters separating them. He still never said a word. He just stood there. Given the nature of the film, perhaps he was just ‘in character’ but she said it was one of the strangest acting situations she ever experienced.

[Watchfoxheadexplodes]

1. Will watch his movies but damn

A 14 yo boy?? Smh

[Siwsan]

2. Knowing people who work in the film industry, and hearing their stories, is enlightening

Suffice it to say that i don't think a whole lot has changed, in Hollywood, over the past 80+ years.

[alphafemale]

22. Judy Garland and probably before that.

The days of traveling entertainment troupes for centuries I would imagine.

So many succumbed to anguish and addiction.

Drew Barrymore clawed herself out to a decent life after her own mother basically pimped her out.

I really think the dam is about to break.

People are fed the fuck up.

[dewsgirl]

3. I am deeply disappointed, yet not completely shocked

Kevin Spacey's name has came up in a couple shady situations, I had hoped these were just rumors. He has been one of my favorites since I was a teenager.

[Siwsan]

4. What ever happened to the art of the innocent "flirt"?

The nice thing about simple flirting is, it can be shut down, fast, if not appreciated. But it seems that people are skipping that particular stage of interacting with people, and going straight for the grope.

Instant gratification, at its worst.

[Skittles]

8. flirting is "attention without intention"

instant gratification does seem to be rampant

[bdtrppr6]

5. amazing

how our biggest celebs and "leaders" turn out to be the worst people in real life, when their outside world seems so clean and normal. i was a huge fan of cosby, listening to his records all the time as a kid, knew every word. then you learn what fucking scumbags they are and you have to ask yourself, "is that what it takes to become a somebody?"

if it is, count me as a nobody.

[RobinA]

37. You Don't

have to be a scumbag, you have to have an ego that is well above average sized. Which can lead to a certain amount of scumbaggery. I also think that travel in elite circles tends to warp people as to what's acceptable and what isn't.

Plus, let's face it, there's a lot of weirdness behind those doors you drive by on the way to your own house, but those people aren't Spacey or Cosby, so you never hear about it.

[Johnny2X2X]

6. Spacey is full of crap

His apology says he doesn't remember it, but he was drunk when it would have happened. Wait, so you don't remember it, but you know you were drunk? How is that?

He was a creep and tried to force himself on a minor, his apology does little to own what he did.

[Honeycombe8]

17. He didn't say he was drunk. He was offering a possible explanation for not remembering....

so as not to call the guy a liar and because the guy described Spacey as standing but weaving back and forth like drunk.

Did you read the guy's allegations and the Spacey statement?

[Demsrule86]

30. It doesn't matter if he was drunk...his behvaior is inexcuable.

[Honeycombe8]

34. I didn't say it did. Read the post I was responding to. That poster said that Spacey was saying he

was drunk & trying to use that as an excuse. That is false.

[Demsrule86]

35. I didn't say you did...just making a comment about his statement which to me reeked of the

manipulative and carefully chosen words of this type of sex offender.

[Kaleva]

39. He didn't offer that as a possible explanation for not remembering

What he said was that if the incident happened as Rapp described it, he apologizes for what would have been deeply inappropriate, drunken behavior.

No where does he try to say that a reason he may not remember is because he may have been drunk.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

7. Is there anybody in Hollywood who isn't a creep?

Never been a huge Spacey fan but disappointed to hear this.

[Skittles]

9. it's not just Hollywood

creeps are everywhere

[Proud Liberal Dem]

16. Well, that's certainly true

Hollywood is just the current focus because of Weinstein.

[Honeycombe8]

19. I think he's one of the most talented actors around. But acting attracts some odd people.

There's one group that seems to view it as a calling. They take it seriously, go through training & classes. There's a history of centuries of serious actors...Shakespeare and whatnot.

But there's this other group. They have nothing to lose, are bopping around looking for something to do with their lives, or maybe attention seekers, narcissistic, or extremely handsome/beautiful or maybe the opposite of that.

The vocation attracts some oddballs and always has. Like a lot of the arts. Painters, writers. Just my opinion.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

24. Yup. I agree.

It's stuff like this that makes a good case for keeping onself from "lionizing" or making "role models" out of people just because they're good actors, musicians, celebrities.

[Demsrule86]

31. I don't watch polanski films, Wood Allen Movies, Cosby anything...there are more, but adding Spacey

to my list. He is a disgrace and his excuses are exactly what I would expect a pedophile to say.

[Honeycombe8]

33. I won't watch Cosby & Mel Gibson. I WILL watch Polanski, & tho I decided not to watch Woody Allen,

I have watched a couple of the old ones that I love. Polanski's films are just too good, like The Pianist. I just couldn't not watch it.

Cosby and Gibson, no problem passing up their lightweight stuff.

I don't view Stacey's actions in the same category as the others. He was apparently drunk (from the kid's own statement) and made a move on him. He didn't attack, try to talk him into anything, coerce him, use his position of power. If there are more reports like this, maybe. But if this was the only time, it's terrible, but not nearly what Polanski & Woody Allen & Cosby did. But I can see where others may not view it the same.

[Demsrule86]

36. I don't care ...he literally held a 14 year old kids down and raped her...I don't care if he made

the best movie in the entire history of mankind...I want nothing to do with anything this guy does. That being said...everyone makes their own choices. My words are not a judgement on anyone else who chooses differently...just my own feelings.

[Honeycombe8]

40. Who? nt

[Demsrule86]

41. Polanski...this was not 'consensual' as if a 14 year old could give consent...it was rape.

[Codeine]

38. No film is good enough to excuse

a grown man drugging and assraping a little girl.

The last thing I ever saw from Polanski was the 9th Gate, and that only because I didn't know what he had done at the time.

[tenderfoot]

27. If you think Hollywood is bad, imagine the depravity in DC and Wall Street

Spare me with this BULLSHIT

[TexasBushwhacker]

10. K-PAX! I loved it n/t

[Siwsan]

11. Yes!

I thought it was a wonderful movie, and not just because my friend was in it.

[DFW]

12. It's often the same dilemma with artists

I LOVED the music of the Byrds. I hear that Chris Hillman is a complete right winger, and maybe McGuinn, too?

Younger Than Yesterday was STILL one of the best albums ever recorded, in my opinion, and I just have to let the artistry transcend the individuals who made up the band.

[NightWatcher]

13. I worked briefly on a film he was in and I just assumed he was in character

He was playing an eccentric gay man who had killed his younger male lover. It was Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil. Clint Eastwood directed and he was flying through filming it. A lot of first takes.

[Siwsan]

14. I love that movie

It was based on a true crime story. What an amazing cast.

[NightWatcher]

15. It was weird because John Cusack was flirting with Eastwood's daughter all over downtown.

I even sat next to Clint during lunch at craft services one day. He ate hotdogs the few days I was there and it was warm during the day, Clint wore very short gym shorts.

The whole filming was way more surreal than the book or movie.

[Kaleva]

20. I think Clint has a reputation for fast filming.

[NightWatcher]

23. Oh yes he does. That contrasted against a Robert Altman film I worked on a little

He took for freakin ever, so much so that it put the film in jeopardy.

[Honeycombe8]

21. I loved that movie. He did an excellent job. I would've thought he was southern.

I don't think it was a hit, but I loved it.

[Demsrule86]

32. That was a great move...great cast.

[Yavin4]

18. Some people are drawn to Hollywood to make great art. Some are drawn to be in a power position over

other people and use that power for their sexual gratification. And, in some cases, that gratification may be deviant behavior.

And this is not limited to Hollywood. Some people gravitate towards power primarily because it gives them a certain amount of sexual control.

[JI7]

25. One can still be very talented and they are often weird and still do horrible things

I this case it seems like an in character thing and something i would not have been surprised by even before knowing about his sexual offense.

[octoberlib]

26. The Daily Mail contacted Spacey's brother, Randall Fowler, who told them their father was a

member of the American Nazi party and was physically and sexually abusive to his children.






Their father, Thomas Geoffrey Fowler, joined the American Nazi Party when Spacey and his brother were just boys. He trimmed his mustache to resemble Adolf Hitler and he regularly whipped and raped his eldest son, Randall Fowler.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5032809/Kevin-Spacey-s-father-Nazi-child-rapist-brother-says.html#ixzz4x5yiXVpH



This doesn't excuse Spacey's actions but he grew up surrounded by abuse and became an abuser himself.

[Siwsan]

29. That article is a real eye opener, that's for sure

What a horrifying childhood. Such a talented man, and now his career is likely ended. I wonder how much alcohol had to do with his inability to control those 'inner demons'.

[Not Ruth]

28. Weird profession draws weird professionals-method acting thing is just way to say mentally ill

Was reading about the guy that played the Joker staying in character for the entire shoot. Can you imagine what a hell that was for every single other person there?