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If trump pardons everyone, is there any recourse? (Original Post) Comatose Sphagetti Oct 2017 OP
nope ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #1
Actually yes flyingfysh Oct 2017 #6
I still say nope ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #9
It's not very ambiguous...it means except in cases of impeachment... tritsofme Oct 2017 #14
yup shanny Oct 2017 #11
Agreed ClarendonDem Oct 2017 #12
I bet they are the root of it. shanny Oct 2017 #13
marching on the white house and occupying it (and congress) is about the only thing we will have Takket Oct 2017 #2
Yes....they can also be charged in state court (like NY or Maryland) Sancho Oct 2017 #3
I'm not sure. yewberry Oct 2017 #4
That is not true about co-conspirators. bluepen Oct 2017 #7
Too good to be true, I guess. nt yewberry Oct 2017 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Oct 2017 #5
That is incorrect. bluepen Oct 2017 #8
Impeachment. Failing that, elections. tritsofme Oct 2017 #15

flyingfysh

(1,990 posts)
6. Actually yes
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 08:21 PM
Oct 2017

The Constitution has a phrase ""except in cases of impeachment". Just how far that extends would have to be decided by the courts.

 

ClarendonDem

(720 posts)
9. I still say nope
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 08:27 PM
Oct 2017

Presidential pardon power is unlimited, for good or bad. The "impeachment" language only prevents the president from pardoning those who have been impeached (which, on edit, means it isn't unlimited, but that exception isn't relevant to Trump).

tritsofme

(17,372 posts)
14. It's not very ambiguous...it means except in cases of impeachment...
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 09:31 PM
Oct 2017

Congress can impeach and convict executive officers, the president cannot interfere by granting a pardon to such a person.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
11. yup
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 09:22 PM
Oct 2017

state charges, especially in NY--whose AG is already working with Mueller. Conveniently, tRump both lives and works there, and it is the site of many, many financial dealings.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
13. I bet they are the root of it.
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 09:26 PM
Oct 2017

And if it serves to seize assets (under RICO) and jail the poison toad and many of his associates, I'll take it. They did put Capone away for tax evasion, not murder etc. Sometimes you just have to take what you can get.

Sancho

(9,067 posts)
3. Yes....they can also be charged in state court (like NY or Maryland)
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 08:18 PM
Oct 2017

If they broke a state law, then tRump cannot pardon them.

In many cases (like money laundering), they probably broke both federal and state laws.

yewberry

(6,530 posts)
4. I'm not sure.
Mon Oct 30, 2017, 08:19 PM
Oct 2017

I was reading something today that said that Trump can't pardon co-conspirators. So I guess, if that's the case, it depends on what they have on Trump himself.

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