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But Kelly says he was honorable -- and Kelly is an ambitious man! (Original Post) struggle4progress Oct 2017 OP
Your headline seems familiar..but I can't place exact quote...Shakespear I seem to recall Stuart G Oct 2017 #1
Mark Antony Va Lefty Oct 2017 #2
From Shakespeare's "Julius Ceasar Kleveland Oct 2017 #4
Thank You..Thank You..Thank You..Thank You. Stuart G Oct 2017 #5
Thank the imortal bard... Kleveland Oct 2017 #7
Good old Bobby Lee .... he had his slaves whipped and brined (salt water into the wounds) Botany Oct 2017 #3
in another reality... Javaman Oct 2017 #6

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
4. From Shakespeare's "Julius Ceasar
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 10:25 AM
Oct 2017

Marc Antony

"He was my friend, faithful and just to me.
But Brutus says he was ambitious,
And Brutus is an honourable man."

Stuart G

(38,419 posts)
5. Thank You..Thank You..Thank You..Thank You.
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 10:29 AM
Oct 2017

..."But Brutus says he was ambitions,
And Brutus is an honorable man"

Botany

(70,491 posts)
3. Good old Bobby Lee .... he had his slaves whipped and brined (salt water into the wounds)
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 10:23 AM
Oct 2017
http://roberteleepark.blogspot.com/2016/11/robert-e-lee-has-his-slaves-whipped-and.html#.WfiHha2ZPOZ

It has frequently been represented by the friends and admirers of Robert E. Lee, late an officer in the rebel army, that, although a slave­holder, his treatment of his chattels was invariably kind and humane. The subjoined statement, taken from the lips of one of his former slaves, indicates the real character of the man:

"My name is Wesley Norris; I was born a slave on the plantation of George Parke Custis; after the death of Mr. Custis, Gen. Lee, who had been made executor of the estate, assumed control of the slaves, in number about seventy; it was the general impression among the slaves of Mr. Custis that on his death they should be forever free; in fact this statement had been made to them by Mr. C. years before; at his death we were informed by Gen. Lee that by the conditions of the will we must remain slaves for five years; I remained with Gen. Lee for about seven­teen months, when my sister Mary, a cousin of ours, and I determined to run away, which we did in the year 1859; we had already reached Westminster, in Maryland, on our way to the North, when we were apprehended and thrown into prison, and Gen. Lee notified of our arrest; we remained in prison fifteen days, when we were sent back to Arlington; we were immediately taken before Gen. Lee, who demanded the reason why we ran away; we frankly told him that we considered ourselves free; he then told us he would teach us a lesson we never would forget; he then ordered us to the barn, where, in his presence, we were tied firmly to posts by a Mr. Gwin, our overseer, who was ordered by Gen. Lee to strip us to the waist and give us fifty lashes each, excepting my sister, who received but twenty; we were accordingly stripped to the skin by the overseer, who, however, had sufficient humanity to decline whipping us; accordingly Dick Williams, a county constable, was called in, who gave us the number of lashes ordered; Gen. Lee, in the meantime, stood by, and frequently enjoined Williams to 'lay it on well,' an injunction which he did not fail to heed; not satisfied with simply lacerating our naked flesh, Gen. Lee then ordered the overseer to thoroughly wash our backs with brine, which was done. After this my cousin and myself were sent to Hanover.
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