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peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
1. Yes!
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 01:37 PM
Oct 2017

We could not compromise with Hitler's genocidal tactics and strategy. Have we ever elevated Nazis as men of honor? Rommel comes close for his skill on the battlefield, not for his willingness to fight for a madman. And the German people at the time. Have we tried to describe those who passively sat back or willingly agreed with the Nazi philosophy as people of honor who simply disagreed about the nature of Jews, the disabled, political dissidents and how to deal with them?

Whole thing makes me ill!

thucythucy

(8,039 posts)
2. Not to mention
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 01:46 PM
Oct 2017

Rommel ended up actively plotting to assassinate Hitler and overthrow the Nazi regime. He paid for this with his life. Even so, I doubt you'll find statues of Rommel anywhere in Germany, or any universities or high schools named after him.

Did Robert E. Lee ever do anything to oppose white supremacy? No, not a thing. He fought to preserve it, and caused the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Americans in the process.

 

VermontKevin

(1,473 posts)
3. There was that thing in Rwanda. I hear the Tutsi failed to compromise with Hutu demands for their
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 01:46 PM
Oct 2017

heads and other body parts.

 

VermontKevin

(1,473 posts)
5. I hear the Catholic Church burned a shitload of women when they failed to compromise
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 01:50 PM
Oct 2017

with the patriarchy.

peggysue2

(10,823 posts)
7. The Other Thing that Depresses and . . .
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 02:16 PM
Oct 2017

and pisses me off about Kelly. He comes from an Irish Catholic family as I do. Probably working class which can get plenty rough around the edges. But unless he was a orphan, I find it hard to believe that some elderly relative didn't pass on his people's generational memory of abuse and intolerance. My grandmother could describe The Great Hunger as if she lived it. She didn't but the details had been passed through the family as if she owned them personally. What she did live through were the days when signs read: No dogs or Irish allowed.

Knowing that, coming from that generational history how does one end up so insensitive to the memories of others?

We all have our stories. John Kelly appears to have forgotten his own. A pity for him and now a pity for us all.

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