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I know Im not the sharpest tool in the shed but,,,,,, (Original Post) Cryptoad Oct 2017 OP
Bicycle infrastructure in many areas, even "bike friendly" ones is a shambles jberryhill Oct 2017 #1
I know,,,, Cryptoad Oct 2017 #2
It's unfortunate jberryhill Oct 2017 #5
So, that doesn't exist for humans walking on the sidewalk, why would this be any different snooper2 Oct 2017 #3
hummm,,,, Cryptoad Oct 2017 #8
Installing those bollards every few feet on every bikeway MineralMan Oct 2017 #4
Positioning is key jberryhill Oct 2017 #6
"practical" Cryptoad Oct 2017 #7
Yes, and . . . ? gratuitous Oct 2017 #9

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
2. I know,,,,
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:32 PM
Oct 2017

where I live, i had rather walk around all day with a cocked shotgun to my head than ride a bike on ouir roads........

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
5. It's unfortunate
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:36 PM
Oct 2017

Because there are a lot of economic knock-on effects from improving bike infrastructure.

People are much more likely to notice a new restaurant or shop from a bike than a car. Since completing a much-criticized bike path in my state, the restaurant business got a boost at both ends and between.

Cyclists tend to (a) have money and (b) be hungry.
 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
3. So, that doesn't exist for humans walking on the sidewalk, why would this be any different
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:32 PM
Oct 2017

If you want to mow down people with your car there are million places and ways to do it...

MineralMan

(146,262 posts)
4. Installing those bollards every few feet on every bikeway
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:33 PM
Oct 2017

would cost way to much money to be practical. It's not going to happen. Ever.

Cryptoad

(8,254 posts)
7. "practical"
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 04:40 PM
Oct 2017

way have a different meaning for those who have been run over...... eliminating one teany weany tac cut for the corps couild pay for them ,,,,, thats practical to me

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. Yes, and . . . ?
Tue Oct 31, 2017, 05:24 PM
Oct 2017

Even in bicycle-friendly Portland, it's hard not to feel like you're taking your life in your hands, which I do daily. Most motorists, like most cyclists are good people and share the road willingly. It irks me when I approach a four-way stop and a car that's been there for several seconds waits for me. I want to yell, "GOOOOOO!" but I know why they do it: Am I one of those law-abiding cyclists (yes), or am I one of those chip-on-the-shoulder, Lance Armstrong Junior types* who blow through red lights and stop signs without a sideways glance?

Segregated bike lanes are usually considered a luxury by city planning commissions, who feel that it's a benefit for too few citizens. It's a self-feeding cycle, though: Segregated bike lanes would encourage more people to ride, benefiting more citizens. The simple painted stripe is a lot cheaper, and as much as most cities are willing to invest in most places. Oddly, though, city planners rarely take into consideration the social (and financial) costs of free residential on-street parking, as if that's one of those inalienable rights Jefferson would have enumerated in the Declaration of Independence if only cars had existed in 1776.

Inertia, mostly. City planning has been going in one direction for so long, it's difficult to get planners and citizens thinking of other ways of doing things.

*Meaning the racing cyclist wannabes who ride like anything that slows them down is a mortal enemy.

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