I havent read the entire Brazile piece yet

[MrScorpio]

But the gist I’ve gotten so far is that the DNC was being mismanaged under DWS and Hill, as a future candidate and most likely nominee, stepped in to help get its house in order in preparation for the primary.

Let’s not forget that when Brazile took over, she wasn’t feeling any coercion to choose Hill. Am I reading this right?

Nothing criminal took place, as no one was paid to stifle her opponent’s votes, nor was there any conspiracy to score delegates and superdelegates and basically the worst thing that could be said about this that she, Hill, bet on herself.

Is this correct?

She won the Democratic primary by a margin of three million votes. She won more states. She won most of the biggest states. She out fundraised her Democratic opponents. She had better name recognition. Her winning wasn’t a total surprise to me and I voted for Bernie in The Michigan Primary, because I stood closer to his positions than her’s by a handful of percentage points in a comparison survey.

I had absolutely no qualms voting for either one of them in a general election.

It could have gone the other way, and the Dem voters could have chosen Bernie instead. Had that happened, Hill would still be bound by the funding agreement with the DNC and would have supported Bernie’s nomination. Unless I’m missing something here. If that would have happened, where’s the proof that Hill would have abandoned the party and left Bernie to the wolves?

Does anyone here believe that she’d do nothing to stop Trump from getting elected because the majority of Dem voters wanted Bernie as their nominee? I can’t see her being that cynical.

Perhaps I’m missing something here. Obviously, I don’t give a damn about winger conspiracy theories or sour grapes from temporary “Democrats.” I want to know why it was wrong for Hill to bolster a failing DNC, something that she wouldn’t have to do if it wasn’t being mismanaged at the time and still be ambitious enough to run for President.

What were her alternatives? Especially since received three million more votes, more states and more delegates than Bernie.

Obviously, I don’t know everything here, so perhaps you all can help me out.

[emulatorloo]

1. I did read the piece, that's a pretty good summary of the facts (behind the spin)

I like Brazile. She's got a book to sell and needs to market it.

Additionally she needs to get hired as a political consultant in the future.

Therefore she needs to re-invent herself.

She was reviled by many in the Berniesphere in 2016 and accused of "rigging the primary" because of the Flint water question.

This spin helps her get back in their good graces and makes her a more appealing hire to Bernie 20/20 or similar candidates.

I know that's a cynical take but it is a tough business.

[melman]

17. Yes

She's doing it to get in the good graces of the 'Bernieshpere'! That must be it.

[emulatorloo]

18. She's gotta work for a living.

It is tough for a consultant who backed a losing GE candidate. I understand completely why she would want to reinvent herself to get work on Bernie 20/20 or similar campaigns.

Look at poor Tad Devine after the defeat of Gore and then Kerry. He apparently couldn't get hired in the US anymore and had to go to the Ukraine to muck around with Paul Manafort and Viktor Yanukovych

We've seen other posts in this thread that show Donna was adamant the DNC did not "rig" anything. We also know the "secret" agreement was reported at the time. And there is a link in this that Bernie signed a similar agreement, which Brazile ignored in the book excerpt.

Link to tweet

It's a cut throat industry. Fact is the Clinton well is dry there is no more money for Brazile there. So it is expedient for her to omit a few facts, and start reinventing herself.

[Hortensis]

21. For a period, the GOP, the Koch-types, the Russians,

and the anti-Democrat left were all pulling the same direction -- against the Democratic Party voters' choices for our candidates for president, U.S. congress, judicial positions, and state offices.

That's reality.

Let's see who butters Brazile's bread in future.

[leftynyc]

2. She's already been caught in one lie

https://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/bernie-sanders-2016-fundraising-dnc-215559

She claimed only Hillary signed such an agreement.

[MrScorpio]

3. Well, whadayaknow.

Curiouser and curiouser.

[emulatorloo]

4. fascinating n/t

[emulatorloo]

6. She wrote an article in March 2017 with an entirely different spin on "rigging" meme

http://time.com/4705515/donna-brazile-russia-emails-clinton/


"When I was asked last July to step in temporarily as D.N.C. Chair, I knew things were amiss. The D.N.C. had been hacked, and thousands of staff emails and documents were plastered on various websites. Staff were harassed, morale suffered, and we lost weeks of planning. Donors were harassed, and fundraising fell off.

Snip

By stealing all the DNC’s emails and then selectively releasing those few, the Russians made it look like I was in the tank for Secretary Clinton. Despite the strong, public support I received from top Sanders campaign aides in the wake of those leaks, the media narrative played out just as the Russians had hoped, leaving Sanders supporters understandably angry and sowing division in our ranks. In reality, not only was I not playing favorites, the more competitive and heated the primary got, the harder D.N.C. staff worked to be scrupulously fair and beyond reproach. In all the months the Russians monitored the D.N.C.’s email, they found just a handful of inappropriate emails, with no sign of anyone taking action to disadvantage the Sanders campaign."


Saw this article earlier on another DU'ers thread.

[leftynyc]

10. Does she realize all she's

doing is burning bridges?

[joshcryer]

20. She's obviously and uncategorically trying to cash out.

This is Gleen Greenwald style clickbait faux heresay bullshit.

[leftynyc]

22. Exceedingly well put. (nt)

[Alice11111]

5. I'm with you. Hillary graciously conceded to Obama and

Even Trump.

She would have conceded to Bernie too. She wasn't hiding a dagger in her glove.

I used to love Brazile, but after her CNN stupid, needless debacle, that tainted Hillary and our party, and her book, though I'm sure she needs 💸💰, I'm done with her.

[Squinch]

7. I've read it. Your summary is pretty accurate. Difference is that the article reports it in

a tone of breathless horror. But yes. You are correct.

[Tom Rinaldo]

8. Something I haven't seen discussed yet

If DWS did such a poor job of managing the DNC, to the point of driving it into the ground financially during a time when Democrats held the White House and thus were in a strong position to seek financial contributions, why did Hillary's campaign do nothing to replace her as DNC Chair? DWS could have been moved out quietly at the time, back in 2015, but she wasn't.

Some people here make the case that Hillary's campaign bailed out a failed and mismanaged DNC, but why then reward the mismanager by allowing DWS to retain her top position in the Democratic Party organization with the degree of her mismanagement fully revealed?

[emulatorloo]

9. Sounds like DWS was effectively sidelined. What I remember reading at the time was DWS

had Obama's support so that may have kept DWS in the position.

[Tom Rinaldo]

13. She remained the public face, at least, of the DNC - and she was controversial in that role

And not just among Sanders supporters - a number of media commentators (NOT aligned with the Right) were taking pokes at her for being too blatantly one sided. I remember when even David Axelrod came out and said she was going too far in that regard. DWS was a Hillary person before she was an Obama person, she had been a national chair of Hillary's 2008 campaign. I suspect DWS was kept on because she was a known dependable Clinton loyalist - and Hillary has a well know loyal streak herself. With effective control gained over the DNC anyway - they felt DWS no longer needed to be replaced. I can understand that, but I don't condone it. DWS could have been replaced without much fuss without having to let the whole world know how bad things had gotten at the DNC. And she should have been.

[emulatorloo]

19. I dunno. Woulda shoulda coulda. I would have enjoyed seeing DWS go in 2012

I think we all would have.

It is an interesting discussion to have I guess but not sure it is that relevant to Brazile's somewhat sketchy spin of the facts.

[pnwmom]

11. Only one thing you got wrong.

Hillary beat Bernie by 3.7 million votes in the primary -- so closer to 4 than to 3 million.

http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/how-clinton-won/

[MrScorpio]

12. Thanks for the correction

[Madam45for2923]

14. Kicking!

[B2G]

15. You could have read it twice

In the time it took you type out the OP.

[mfcorey1]

16. Thank you!