TPM "Wrestling With the Fact That Papadopoulos is a Moron"

[NRaleighLiberal]

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/wrestling-with-the-fact-that-papadopoulos-is-a-moron

By JOSH MARSHALL Published NOVEMBER 2, 2017 3:13 PM

We are now hearing various versions of who knew what and who said what about the idea of George Papadopoulos arranging a meeting between Vladimir Putin and Donald Trump during the 2016 presidential campaign. All these points notwithstanding, let’s remember that the idea that a presidential candidate would hold a summit with a foreign head of state – especially Vladimir Putin – is completely crazy, even if you have a maximal take on the Trump/Russia scandal. In many ways, it’s crazy especially if you have a maximal take on the Trump/Russia scandal.

This is one of many oddities about the Papadopoulos chapter of the Russia story. This is a thirty year old guy who as best I can tell never once held what could properly be called a job in foreign policy work by really any definition. He was nonetheless for a time one of five official foreign policy advisors for the man who was already the de facto nominee of the GOP (already by March that fact was pretty clear, though not final). On taking the assignment he is, according to the plea agreement, told that a rapprochement with Russia is a top policy priority of candidate Trump. He immediately begins making contacts with people tied to the Russian government in a way that is at a minimum highly irregular and embarrassing.

But in the process of that he’s discussing a potential meeting with Putin. Needless to say, it’s going to be highly, highly difficult to arrange such a meeting without anyone knowing about it. So it’s got to be public – unless they have some cockamamie idea of meeting in a safe house or something. (Can we totally rule that out? Honestly, not sure.) What is most striking to me about this is that this is not only totally crazy. It would not even further some kind of secret understanding to collaborate on help in the election in exchange for policy accommodations post-election. So how does this fit together? Because at a minimum Papadopoulos was looking for and discussing getting dirt on Hillary Clinton while trying to negotiate or discuss some policy accommodations. What he was trying to do was effectively collusion. And we don’t even know all the details yet.


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As I wrote a few days ago, intelligence operatives trying compromise or penetrate a foreign government or organization look for people who are crooked or desperate. Stupid doesn’t hurt either. With Papadopoulos it sounds like they had at least two of the three.

[Sneederbunk]

1. My take:

1. Papadopoulos is unqualified and incompetent.
2. The Trump admin seems to hire the unqualified and incompetent.
3. Some Russian operative sold Papadopoulos a bill of goods about the ability to arrange a meeting with Putin.
4. The Trump campaign was dumb enough to believe Papadopoulos.

[gratuitous]

2. We are talking about a cabal of political neophytes

Very few of the people in the Trump campaign had any experience running a national campaign, and even fewer of them had any executive branch governmental experience. Not only did they know very little, they didn't have the first clue of knowing what they didn't know. So much of this was flying by the seat of their pants.

Luckily, they didn't have too many scruples and the political media (as Les Moonves of CBS accidentally divulged) were making too much money covering the Trump campaign. Critical coverage of Trump was non-existent because it was such a fun ride for reporters and their bosses alike. Nit-picking the campaign's missteps and outright criminality was pooh-poohed as No Big Thing, and why you gotta be such a buzzkill.

This shit matters.