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LisaM

(27,800 posts)
1. She's killing it on the talk shows, and her book tour is enormously popular.
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 04:35 PM
Nov 2017

Therefore, it's time to try and knock her down a couple of pegs. How dare she try to show that she's engaging, witty, and likeable? This narrative must be stopped!

And yes,

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
4. Yes, not only that, but she had specific data infrastructure goals to make the DNC
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 04:40 PM
Nov 2017

as competitive as the RNC. What was she thinking??

Excerpts from her interview at the ReCode 2017 conference:
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2017/05/31/read-full-transcript-hillary-clinton-recode-interview/0niING5P2tfNBCnR1lSq9H/story.html
"I mean it was bankrupt, it was on the verge of insolvency, its data was mediocre to poor, nonexistent, wrong. I had to inject money into it...

Mossberg: This is the DNC you’re talking about.

The DNC to keep it going. Okay. Donald Trump who did nothing about really setting up any kind of data operation, inherits an RNC data foundation that after the Republicans lost in 2012, and they thought they had a very good operation with the setup that Romney did called ORCA, they thought that was really state of the art, they lose.

So they raised - best estimates are close to a hundred million dollars, they brought in their main vendors, they basically said, “We will never be behind the Democrats again,” and they invested between 2012 and 2016 this hundred million dollars to build this data foundation. They beta tested it. They ran it... somebody was able to determine about 227,000 surveys to double check, triple check, quadruple check, the information. So Trump becomes the nominee and he is basically handed this tried and trued, effective foundation. Then you’ve got Cambridge Analytica and you know, you can believe the hype on how great they were or the hype on how they weren’t, but the fact is, they added something. And I think again, we better understand that, the Mercers did not invest all that money just for their own amusement. We know they played in Brexit, and we know that they came to Jared Kushner and basically said, “We will marry our operation,” which was more as it’s been described, psychographic, sentiment, a lot of harvesting of Facebook information, “We will marry that with the RNC."

Nevernose

(13,081 posts)
5. They didnt sign the same agreement
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 04:40 PM
Nov 2017

“The agreement—signed by Amy Dacey, the former CEO of the DNC, and Robby Mook with a copy to Marc Elias—specified that in exchange for raising money and investing in the DNC, Hillary would control the party’s finances, strategy, and all the money raised. Her campaign had the right of refusal of who would be the party communications director, and it would make final decisions on all the other staff. The DNC also was required to consult with the campaign about all other staffing, budgeting, data, analytics, and mailings.”

Frankly, I think the Politico piece is poorly titled and the article says far more about DWS than Clinton. Clinton wasn’t expected to be unbiased, after all, and she DID pay off other people’s massive accumulated debts. DWS, however, was supposed to be more fair. Barring that, she was apparently a terrible organizational leader, leaving the DNC in massive debt through shady hiring

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
8. I agree with you.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:24 AM
Nov 2017

Despite all the defensiveness from people who are loyal to Hillary Clinton, the real scandal here isn't that the Clinton campaign entered into the agreement. It's that the DNC entered into the agreement.

pnwmom

(108,973 posts)
10. That was wrong. Hillary signed two different agreements. It was only the one in 2016,
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:56 AM
Nov 2017

after she won the nomination, that included the clauses you mention here.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029787909

jillan

(39,451 posts)
11. That's correct about the agreements AND I totally agree with you about Donna's intentions
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:06 AM
Nov 2017

it really wasn't a Hillary bashing piece.

What Donna did, imho, is expose problems in the DNC left over from DWS.

Face it, the DNC is in trouble. They were left 2 million in debt after the election and are having a hard time raising money now.
There is a lot of infighting still going on. Their numbers are lower, people have left the party. There is a lot of rebuilding to do. And Tom Perez needs to get busy with the repairs.

Sometimes you need to pull away the facade to fix the structure. And that's how I'm reading what was released today.

About that agreement, it's insane to think Bernie was offered the same agreement about moving money from the DNC to the Hillary for America fund WHILE the primaries were just getting started. That agreement with Mook was signed in 10/2015. There is no way Bernie was going to sign that or that Mook would've even offered it to him. Iowa hadn't even had it's caucuses yet.

Voltaire2

(12,977 posts)
6. Great, lets keep fighting the 2016 primaries
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 04:47 PM
Nov 2017

Fuck 2018, we got some grudges that need to be nursed.

Recipe for defeat.

Hekate

(90,616 posts)
9. Once again, she does something that benefits all, and is the designated pinata
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:34 AM
Nov 2017

Some people need their heads examined.

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