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Wasn't Donna Brazile a Neoliberal DLC Third-Way Corporatist lackey just yesterday? (Original Post) OilemFirchen Nov 2017 OP
Yes she was, because she started as a Clinton protege in the 90's marylandblue Nov 2017 #1
And today, she's a darling of the left. OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #4
I'm a lefty, and she's no darling of mine. shanny Nov 2017 #27
Carl Betz was hot. YOHABLO Nov 2017 #2
So was Donna Reed. OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #6
I don't trust pretty people Bucky Nov 2017 #38
Yes, she "rigged" the primary by leaking an obvious debate question that everybody knew was gonna emulatorloo Nov 2017 #3
lucky she can blame all her problems on "russians" eh? nt msongs Nov 2017 #8
Very hypnotic. emulatorloo Nov 2017 #25
It's odd how quickly someone can become popular here on DU once they start attacking Democrats. LonePirate Nov 2017 #5
Wasn't she aggressively defended by the same people trashing the shit out of her now? melman Nov 2017 #7
Wasn't she aggressively trashed by the same people kissing her ass now? emulatorloo Nov 2017 #9
She also managed a losing campaign in 2000. delisen Nov 2017 #19
Actually that campaign was stolen too, just as 2016 was. You forgot that already? brush Nov 2017 #29
Couldn't say, actually. OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #11
Really melman Nov 2017 #12
Go for it. OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #14
Lol emulatorloo Nov 2017 #15
"I'm not your research assistant" NastyRiffraff Nov 2017 #39
! MrsCoffee Nov 2017 #23
... greatauntoftriplets Nov 2017 #26
I just searched my name and her. joshcryer Nov 2017 #37
In pro wrestling terms she turned heel RhodeIslandOne Nov 2017 #31
I only see praise for revealing the quid pro quo agreement that gave HRC control over the DNC aikoaiko Nov 2017 #10
I see. OilemFirchen Nov 2017 #13
Right. I can see why you're upset. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #17
I guess the DNC could have just bankrupted. delisen Nov 2017 #18
That wasn't the only choice. Hillary could have bailed them out, but asked for... aikoaiko Nov 2017 #20
I was asking about the DNC's choices,not Clinton's delisen Nov 2017 #21
Why didn't Obama do more for the DNC? That's a good question. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #22
Clinton campaign debt not paid off until 2013 delisen Nov 2017 #24
If shes conveying accurate information, I support her in doing so. David__77 Nov 2017 #28
Yes, let's hope all facts were checked before going public. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Wwcd Nov 2017 #16
It is and always was about Sen. Sanders...he has a small but vocal base who love anyone who Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #30
Not unlike support for certain other politicians on this board. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #33
Nope...there is nothing like this for any other politician. Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #34
I agree about wanting fresh faces for 2020, but I think you're wrong about core group regarding HRC. aikoaiko Nov 2017 #35
I was a deaniac...we were all heart broken... but I seen no signs of a Clinton loyalist group ... Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #36

marylandblue

(12,344 posts)
1. Yes she was, because she started as a Clinton protege in the 90's
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 08:11 PM
Nov 2017

But I guess they had quite a falling out somewhere a long the way.

Bucky

(53,998 posts)
38. I don't trust pretty people
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:47 PM
Nov 2017

I want someone fucking homely as our nominee in 2020. Sorry, but your "Draft Betz" movement is doomed to fail. First because he died in 1978 and secondly because the Russians are prepared to release, let's say, certain incriminating pictures of him

emulatorloo

(44,118 posts)
3. Yes, she "rigged" the primary by leaking an obvious debate question that everybody knew was gonna
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 08:13 PM
Nov 2017

be asked!

Not too long ago she debunked the "DNC rigged!" and "Bias DNC" memes:

http://time.com/4705515/donna-brazile-russia-emails-clinton/


"When I was asked last July to step in temporarily as D.N.C. Chair, I knew things were amiss. The D.N.C. had been hacked, and thousands of staff emails and documents were plastered on various websites. Staff were harassed, morale suffered, and we lost weeks of planning. Donors were harassed, and fundraising fell off.

Snip

By stealing all the DNC’s emails and then selectively releasing those few, the Russians made it look like I was in the tank for Secretary Clinton. Despite the strong, public support I received from top Sanders campaign aides in the wake of those leaks, the media narrative played out just as the Russians had hoped, leaving Sanders supporters understandably angry and sowing division in our ranks. In reality, not only was I not playing favorites, the more competitive and heated the primary got, the harder D.N.C. staff worked to be scrupulously fair and beyond reproach. In all the months the Russians monitored the D.N.C.’s email, they found just a handful of inappropriate emails, with no sign of anyone taking action to disadvantage the Sanders campaign."

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That proved more than ever she was a neon-liberal corporoappuratus.

However she's got a book to sell, and a career as a political consultant to save. New spin is a good move, as evidenced by her sudden redemption around these parts.

emulatorloo

(44,118 posts)
9. Wasn't she aggressively trashed by the same people kissing her ass now?
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 08:20 PM
Nov 2017

I,m a bit neutral on Donna. She's gotta make a living. Clinton money ran out, that well has gone dry.

So makes sense a hired gun is gonna go where the money is. Your new found enthusiasm proves to me this is a smart career move!

As I said to you before I'd hate to see Donna become unemployable in the US.

She backed a losing candidate and it's hard to get work after that.

I don't want to see her end up like Tad Devine, he couldn't get work in the US anymore after Kerry lost.

So he had to degrade himself by going to the Ukraine and getting stuck helping Paul Manafort prop up a Putin puppet.

Don't want to see that happen to Donna.

OilemFirchen

(7,143 posts)
11. Couldn't say, actually.
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 08:23 PM
Nov 2017

I can't recall anyone saying much of anything about her since the last century. Except the epithets in my title, of course.

joshcryer

(62,270 posts)
37. I just searched my name and her.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:34 PM
Nov 2017

Literally nothing said defending or indicting her. She was just a figure.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
10. I only see praise for revealing the quid pro quo agreement that gave HRC control over the DNC
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 08:20 PM
Nov 2017

I don't see anyone saying she's changed her views.

delisen

(6,042 posts)
18. I guess the DNC could have just bankrupted.
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 09:11 PM
Nov 2017

would that have been the noble choice?

I wonder what other avenues they had to raise money.





aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
20. That wasn't the only choice. Hillary could have bailed them out, but asked for...
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 09:15 PM
Nov 2017

...new but independent management.

delisen

(6,042 posts)
21. I was asking about the DNC's choices,not Clinton's
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 09:42 PM
Nov 2017

What other avenue do you think they had? ...and how do you think they got into their financial mess with no one doing anything about it for years. Surely Clinton can't be blamed for that.

Obama was president which made him the head of the party. There must be a board of directors, staff. (Brazile did place some blame on Obama, as well as Debbie Wasserman-Schultz)-

Sanders as far as I can tell, did not do anything, and after he signed a joint fundraising agreement with the DNC, he never did any joint fundraising. Why not?








aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
22. Why didn't Obama do more for the DNC? That's a good question.
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 10:29 PM
Nov 2017

I wouldn't be surprised if Obama told HRC to bail out the DNC the way he bailed her out of nearly the same amount of debt after 2008.

Why didn't Bernie do more for the DNC? Maybe he suspected he would have been funding HRCs campaign.



delisen

(6,042 posts)
24. Clinton campaign debt not paid off until 2013
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 11:31 PM
Nov 2017

I know Obama contributed the individual maximum of $2300 to help pay off Clinton's 2008 campaign debt and that he encouraged his donors to do same.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/06/25/obama.clinton.debt/index.html

I've never heard that Obama paid off multi millions in Clinton campaign debt, although I have searched. Are you sure about his paying a sum the size of the DNC debt?

If so, I could use a link.

Bernie Sanders had signed an agreement to do co-fundraising with the DNC but never acted upon the agreement.

Response to OilemFirchen (Original post)

Demsrule86

(68,555 posts)
30. It is and always was about Sen. Sanders...he has a small but vocal base who love anyone who
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 05:46 AM
Nov 2017

supports him in someway. Thus they defend of every word he utters and every action he takes. I am not a fan, but I do appreciate that Sen. Sanders caucuses with us in the Senate. His votes are quite good. He is very valuable in the Senate.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
33. Not unlike support for certain other politicians on this board.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 07:44 AM
Nov 2017

In fact, some people think all things the Democratic party does are unassailable -- never a critical word to spoken.

Demsrule86

(68,555 posts)
34. Nope...there is nothing like this for any other politician.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:54 PM
Nov 2017

If you are referring to Sec. Clinton. Many of us admire her and don't like to see any Democrat trashed much less the former Democratic nominee...but we are not followers. She is not running for anything. Time to move on...2016 is over. I know that some of you really think Sen. Sanders will run in 20. I hope not as this might reopen old wounds and cost us the election...but he will lose in my opinion even if he runs as a Democrat...and I am absolutely against any independent running in the Dem Primary. We need new candidates ...fresh faces. Lets put the divisive year 2016 behind us and move into the future and take on the evil GOP and Trump ...not each other.

aikoaiko

(34,169 posts)
35. I agree about wanting fresh faces for 2020, but I think you're wrong about core group regarding HRC.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:59 PM
Nov 2017

It may be hard for you to see it.

But our mileage on this issue can vary.

Demsrule86

(68,555 posts)
36. I was a deaniac...we were all heart broken... but I seen no signs of a Clinton loyalist group ...
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:08 PM
Nov 2017

As I said before, I admire her but I do not follow any politician individually. mostly some (including me) react to the OP's attacking her and those who engage in this are mostly supporters of Sen. Sanders...I react the same way for OP's about Speaker Pelosi and Senator Harris ET AL. It has to do with being a woman...because women are unfairly attacked quite often.

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